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isk84life 02-17-2017 12:24 PM

McConnell on DACA
 
McConnell on DACA immigrants: "These were people who were brought here at a tender age.. I am very sympathetic to people in that situation"

https://twitter.com/Sam_Frizell/stat...25876474875910

JohannBernoulli1667 02-17-2017 12:39 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Pass a fucking solution damn it!!

I believe that this is a good sign.

Trump's statements basically has created an environment where Republicans have the go to vote on a solution without so much political danger.

isk84life 02-17-2017 12:48 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 604696)
Pass a fucking solution damn it!!

I believe that this is a good sign.

Trump's statements basically has created an environment where Republicans have the go to vote on a solution without so much political danger.

Dude, I've never hear McConnell talk sympathetically about illegal immigrants... He is crazy anti immigrant. This is definitely great news.

eva02 02-17-2017 12:53 PM

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Trump has basically moved the party so far right that Republicans were like damn can we win another election if we don't moderate? Millenials and young kids will always have negative views of the Republican Party.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-17-2017 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 604701)
Trump has basically moved the party so far right that Republicans were like damn can we win another election if we don't moderate? Millenials and young kids will always have negative views of the Republican Party.

You live in California. Not the case across the country.

Here in the Midwest there are Trump loving people all over.

Trump has not moved right Trump has moved into some obscure dimension where nothing makes sense.

His actions are not conservative, they are totalitarian in nature. Thanks to Miller and Bannon.

DanielPL 02-17-2017 12:58 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Congress should just make a law that would grant green cards to all DACAers.

Jsonkim88 02-17-2017 01:02 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Citizenship if 10+ years with records of tax payments
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPL (Post 604704)
Congress should just make a law that would grant green cards to all DACAers.


avf 02-17-2017 01:02 PM

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If only sympathy would solve this problem.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPL (Post 604704)
Congress should just make a law that would grant green cards to all DACAers.

AKA The Dream Act? Does anyone know why we're not talking about the DREAM Act as a solution. Does it not have just as much chance as the BRIDGE Act or other legislation?

Carpenter86 02-17-2017 01:02 PM

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But my question is...

Is there anyone in Congress working on a immigration bill?
Is there anyway someone, or some organization can pressure Congress on working on a bill?

The clock is ticking, and the lack of action of the congress will cost a lot to many of us.

a.martin3z 02-17-2017 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielPL (Post 604704)
Congress should just make a law that would grant green cards to all DACAers.

LOL You mean pass the Dream Act? Blasphemy

a.martin3z 02-17-2017 01:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpenter86 (Post 604707)
But my question is...

Is there anyone in Congress working on a immigration bill?
Is there anyway someone, or some organization can pressure Congress on working on a bill?

The clock is ticking, and the lack of action of the congress will cost a lot to many of us.

Clock only really starts ticking when DACA is repealed. Until then, I doubt they'll work on anything.

carnivore 02-17-2017 01:10 PM

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#RepublicanDreamers

APinfo 02-17-2017 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a.martin3z (Post 604710)
Clock only really starts ticking when DACA is repealed. Until then, I doubt they'll work on anything.

The clock won't start ticking until the possibility of them losing their jobs over immigration are real. They don't care about what happens to us. They've already won an election bashing all immigrants. What incentive do they have to actually get anything done?

Demise 02-17-2017 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 604711)
#RepublicanDreamers

I always say that those people should file I-243 and get out of everyone's hair, both ours and the Nazis'.

tf2legend 02-17-2017 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsonkim88 (Post 604705)
Citizenship if 10+ years with records of tax payments

Chill out.

Bachelors degree + fee + 5 year wait

tf2legend 02-17-2017 02:04 PM

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This is great stuff. Now we have the President, House leader and Senate leader on our side. Who would have thought this after Nov 8??

chessmaster05 02-17-2017 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tf2legend (Post 604742)
Chill out.

Bachelors degree + fee + 5 year wait

Chill out!!

M.S. Degree in (STEM) Field from top 20 university + fee + 5 year wait.

eva02 02-17-2017 02:07 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 604703)
You live in California. Not the case across the country.

Here in the Midwest there are Trump loving people all over.

Trump has not moved right Trump has moved into some obscure dimension where nothing makes sense.

His actions are not conservative, they are totalitarian in nature. Thanks to Miller and Bannon.

You are forgetting that if only millenials had voted trump would of lost all but 2 states. Don't distort reality please.

tf2legend 02-17-2017 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chessmaster05 (Post 604744)
Chill out!!

M.S. Degree in (STEM) Field from top 20 university + fee + 5 year wait.

Lol. I'm guessing about 1% of Dreamers would qualify for that

chessmaster05 02-17-2017 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tf2legend (Post 604750)
Lol. I'm guessing about 1% of Dreamers would qualify for that

We have to take what we can. ;-)

tf2legend 02-17-2017 02:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 604748)
You are forgetting that if only millenials had voted trump would of lost all but 2 states. Don't distort reality please.

Millenials dont vote. We all know that.

Trump also flipped a lot of places that Obama had won easily. There was this one place in Ohio that had a 42 point swing.

Dream becomes Reality 02-17-2017 03:47 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 604692)
McConnell on DACA immigrants: "These were people who were brought here at a tender age.. I am very sympathetic to people in that situation"

https://twitter.com/Sam_Frizell/stat...25876474875910


Yeah...ok Mitch McConnell of all people?

Let's take a stroll down memory lane to December 2010, I believe it was the 10th. Some of the Dreamers on this site must still remember this, some may have been a bit young and may not have been aware of their statuses back then.

Even though I am legalized now, I still remember that day very clearly and I will caution people to be very careful in trusting what he is saying. That morning had 2 Bills up for vote in the Senate; the Repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and the Dream Act. I remember Mitch McConnell getting in front of the cameras to say that they would not be able to stop the repeal of DADT but they would "definitely" be able to defeat the Dream Act.

I remember being so dumbfounded as to why he disliked us so much that he would want the Dream Act to fail so badly. Sure enough the Dream Act failed that morning and I remember just feeling numb that morning and not eating all day. Since when did he have a change of heart? It is worrisome that they keep bringing up DACA, they need to just leave it alone until they have something better passed; anything else that they say is hot air and I would not believe one word.

jaylove16 02-17-2017 03:50 PM

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Obama really helped us out with DACA. Now they will be forced to pass a bill if daca gets taken away.

ECW 02-17-2017 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 604794)
Yeah...ok Mitch McConnell of all people?

Let's take a stroll down memory lane to December 2010, I believe it was the 10th. Some of the Dreamers on this site must still remember this, some may have been a bit young and may not have been aware of their statuses back then.

Even though I am legalized now, I still remember that day very clearly and I will caution people to be very careful in trusting what he is saying. That morning had 2 Bills up for vote in the Senate; the Repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and the Dream Act. I remember Mitch McConnell getting in front of the cameras to say that they would not be able to stop the repeal of DADT but they would "definitely" be able to defeat the Dream Act.

I remember being so dumbfounded as to why he Nedisliked us so much that he would want the Dream Act to fail so badly. Sure enough the Dream Act failed that morning and I remember just feeling numb that morning and not eating all day. Since when did he have a change of heart? It is worrisome that they keep bringing up DACA, they need to just leave it alone until they have something better passed; anything else that they say is hot air and I would not believe one word.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I just don't see how they can all retract from something to help us. Ryan, Trump, McConnell etc. I don't think we have ever had such support from all relevant parties.

K-Man 02-17-2017 04:26 PM

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The 'change of heart' comes from McConnell having no back bone (literally and figuratively). He's the epitome of sly a bureaucrat that'll please anyone and anybody to keep their jobs, in this case I have a feeling he's repeating Trump's words to appeal to, well, Trump.

That being said I don't see it as a negative for us if he's willing to do a 180 on DACA just to please his boss. Why not take advantage of his no neck / no back bone / no soul -ness.

isk84life 02-17-2017 04:26 PM

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Enlist act now has 77 co sponsors. Huge chance to pass since more are republican than democrat.

jaylove16 02-17-2017 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 604806)
Enlist act now has 77 co sponsors. Huge chance to pass since more are republican than democrat.

Forget about the enlist act. It doesn't even have a counterpart in the senate .

eva02 02-17-2017 05:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 604806)
Enlist act now has 77 co sponsors. Huge chance to pass since more are republican than democrat.

Having a lot of cosponsers for a bill means nothing. Even though only some democrats are cosponserinng you c an rest assure the vote will be among party lines. However, it does look like it can pass.

DogJuiceMan 02-18-2017 03:36 PM

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Enlist act will pass before bridge act- "the bandaid on a bleeding wound"

Who wants bridge act anyway? Its basically guaranteeing the death of DACA.

Enlist act has plenty of sponsors and still has a pulse, meanwhile bridge act is dying and slowing down. I don't know where yo

jrpallares 02-18-2017 06:03 PM

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im guessing itll be none of the above.

eva02 02-18-2017 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 604941)
Enlist act will pass before bridge act- "the bandaid on a bleeding wound"

Who wants bridge act anyway? Its basically guaranteeing the death of DACA.

Enlist act has plenty of sponsors and still has a pulse, meanwhile bridge act is dying and slowing down. I don't know where yo

If bridge act passes congress will feel compelled to pass it every three years or until a permanent solution is in place. We can have both these bills. Stop arguing for one just to C.Y.A. You'll need that btw when trump and the republicans start their wars.

libertarian1776 02-18-2017 09:05 PM

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the bridge, enlist, safe acts if passed has the full power of law through the legislative powers of the congress, it cannot be repealed by the president, AG, DHS Sec.

its not the same as DACA because DACA can be rescinded anytime, any relief passed by the legislative branch has the full implementation and power of the law, it gives the beneficiaries a more solid grounding and security.

and yes, Bridge Act gives us PPP rather than an unlawful presence waver that DACA only grants us. you can travel and establish stronger ties to your residency with PPP.

pretty sure all of these bills can and will pass the Congress and yes there will be minority in the GOP such as steve king and ted cruz who will vote against it. i say so because people in here are pessimists and daca will end next week and we are all getting deported.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 604974)
If bridge act passes congress will feel compelled to pass it every three years or until a permanent solution is in place. We can have both these bills. Stop arguing for one just to C.Y.A. You'll need that btw when trump and the republicans start their wars.


eva02 02-18-2017 09:31 PM

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The Bridge Act will most likely pass.

libertarian1776 02-18-2017 09:34 PM

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yeah... they should just find a way in commitee to legalize. just end the issue?

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 604979)
The Bridge Act will most likely pass.


DogJuiceMan 02-19-2017 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 604974)
If bridge act passes congress will feel compelled to pass it every three years or until a permanent solution is in place. We can have both these bills. Stop arguing for one just to C.Y.A. You'll need that btw when trump and the republicans start their wars.

Congress compelled? LMAO. Let me have some of whatever you are smoking. Oh wait you're serious LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

:roll:

You mean the same congress that even though it should've passed the budget, decided to sit on their asses?

The same congress that has people blocking bills from moving forward?

Face the music, bridge act is a way for them to cleanly get rid of us with as little work as possible, because congress is terrifically good at doing NOTHING.

It'll pass, and then once the 3 years are up, they'll decide to do nothing.

Oh I get it, you feel entitled to greencards, but dont want to put anything up for it.

Enlist act will make sure it's BLOOD that pays for the greencards.

It sure would be nice that enlist act and bridge act passed, but it looks like enlist act is way more alive than bridge act.


-Much Love and Friendships
-DogJuiceMan

eva02 02-19-2017 03:18 PM

Re: McConnell on DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 605079)
Congress compelled? LMAO. Let me have some of whatever you are smoking. Oh wait you're serious LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

:roll:

You mean the same congress that even though it should've passed the budget, decided to sit on their asses?

The same congress that has people blocking bills from moving forward?

Face the music, bridge act is a way for them to cleanly get rid of us with as little work as possible, because congress is terrifically good at doing NOTHING.

It'll pass, and then once the 3 years are up, they'll decide to do nothing.

Oh I get it, you feel entitled to greencards, but dont want to put anything up for it.

Enlist act will make sure it's BLOOD that pays for the greencards.

It sure would be nice that enlist act and bridge act passed, but it looks like enlist act is way more alive than bridge act.


-Much Love and Friendships
-DogJuiceMan


Forgive me for not wanting to die on a battlefield, how selfish of me. I've never heard any press regarding the enlist act. We all make choices, if you feel the enlist act is convenient for you, go ahead. Obviously the only reason the bridge act exists is because they don't want to pull the rug from under dreamers. If they pass it once, they'll pass it again.


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