Trump's joint address guests include relatives of people killed by undocumented immig
 

President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will invite three relatives of victims of deadly crimes committed by undocumented immigrants to the president's joint address before Congress on Tuesday.

The White House guest list includes Jessica Davis and Susan Oliver, widows of California police officers killed in the line of duty by a person living in the country illegally, and Jamiel Shaw Sr., whose son was shot by an undocumented immigrant.

The guests highlight the president's focus on crimes allegedly committed by immigrants in his push for tighter immigration controls.

Kicking off his presidential campaign back in 2015, Trump created a controversy when he said immigrants from Mexico was were "bringing crime" and "they’re rapists."

Shortly after taking office, Trump issued an executive order directing the Department of Homeland Security to publish weekly lists of “criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens.”

But a number of scientific studies conducted over the past several years contradict the idea that immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate share of crime.

The research concludes that immigrants are not more likely than U.S.-born individuals to take part in crime, Christopher P. Salas-Wright, an assistant professor at Boston University’s School of Social Work, told Politifact in 2016. "Again and again, we see evidence that they are not," Salas-Wright said. "In fact, it’s the opposite."

A 2016 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology actually suggests that communities that recorded significant increases in immigration had a sharper reduction in crime compared to areas that had less immigration.

The Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, called the research on immigrants and crime "fairly one-sided," noting that "with few exceptions, immigrants are less crime prone than natives or have no effect on crime rates."

ABC News' Jim Avila and Alisa Wiersema contributed to this report.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=45796405

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Shaw was a crips gang member js

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Welp. So much for an immigration reform "compromise"

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Should we incarcerate all blacks because one or two blacks killed another person?

Should we incarcerate all police officers because one or two killed a civilian?

Ridiculous.

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Dems are bringing DACA kids and Trump bringing victims. feels some kind of group therapy. Lets hope for the best

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Wonder is the Navy Seal's dad will also go for democrats /s

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If Trump can pull through LPR for DACA, so what.

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It will be a big blow to these people if Trump legalize us. I LOVE IT

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Hold your horses everyone....take everything with a grain of salt

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Arent you guys watching? it seems like campaign still wtf.

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He is trying to sell his agenda

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I'm not watching. I'll watch the highlights when it's over. I can't listen to him for over an hour.

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That is not what I have read. All sources indicate that he was not in a gang. What sources are telling you that he is in a gang?

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I lived two blocks from his house and we went to the same high school, that source

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That is not a very good source. Why didn't you tell the investigators that so that people could have reported it?

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There was nothing for us nor for the rest of the undocumented.

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Nothing on CIR

LOL

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Lmao! so much for the promised immigration reform, Me thinks he threw that red meat out there to get folks to tune in and raise the views on his session with congress. when will the morons learn not to trust this man. Smdh*

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we still have tomorrow and 4 more years.....

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probably because i didnt have status at the time and didn't want to be involved? he hung out outside with other crip gang members and they would intimidate older mexicans in the neighborhood. both the shooter and victim deserve to be where they are. scum the both of them!

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Where are all the people here that praised him for an alleged immigration reform?

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Why bring it out now?

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Very frustrating! I have all the respect for all those individuals whose family members were killed by undocumented violent immigrants. At the same time, Trump should acknowledge all the hate crimes going on by US citizens on other US citizens from diverse backgrounds! Two Indian guys were killed just like less than a week ago in Kansas. He is still silent on the issue.

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lol, weren't some people claiming they were going to turn trumpsters for life? Smdh

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It was a conciliatory speech, but it did not achieve anything. I saw at the end Democrats seemingly couldn't wait to leave...and quickly.

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Surprisingly he did acknowledged it. At the very beginning he softly did condemned it as a hate crime.

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Here is the source. The black kid was a blood.

http://www.streetgangs.com/features/...-death-penalty

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I guess they are back to being democrats with their tails between their legs.

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Until the day he says "All illegal immigrants gotta go" is the day I will start to worry.

So far, he has only targeted criminal aliens, which is what happened under Obama and we all agree should happen.

The thing is, he has to do something with the rest of the undocumented and we all know deporting 11million is close to impossible. That is where an amnesty has to come in and Trump has all the leverage in the world to get it done!

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^ well said

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you guys gotta accept the fact he will never get into policy details regarding legalization. thats just not him. thats paul ryans job.

he aint ever gonna talk about legalization/amnesty in public! so dont hold your breath. it will just happen in the congress.

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Well, Trump mentioned that he wants both parties to work on immigration. That's the most we can really expect from him, it's on Congress now to hurry up and draft something so he can sign it.

Trump will never public support CIR, it will be against his interest, but I belive he's willing to sign a bill if Congress works on one.

Maybe he didn't say what a lot of us expected, but overall it was better than nothing.

The pressure should continue.

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I was waiting for the Democrats to show support on immigration but I guess they were told to just show as much opposition as possible

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He mentioned that at beginning.
But yea overall he didn't say much on reform other than compromise. Better than "deport all" rhetoric. At least he keeps focus on ones with records.

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That article and the previous ones that are linked in it are making the case that he was not in the gang, but that he has friends who are because he lives in that area and associates(through sports and school) with those people.

Kinda like the DACA recipient that was arrested in Seattle, if you do believe in what his lawyers are saying. That he knew people from the gang, but was never an active member.

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I feel DACA will remain in place.

He is just never going to go on a stage like that to talk about that.

Let's not be so selfish, there are far greater problems in this country than our case.

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he was in a gang, you don't live here. shaw is resting in piss

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fair enough, I can see that he was(or highly likely) in a gang. It is just that most sources that I saw were indicting the opposite. His parents must have done a good job at covering that up.

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Wow. Yea you don't throw up those signs if they are only your friends.

Too bad they make it seem like he was just an innocent boy and the ilegal was a blood thirsty maniac

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No wonder his pops was so easily recruited by the Trump Campaign. Like father like son I guess ----Completely Morally bankrupt. It's amazing how the minute you dig into the background of anyone supporting trump, they all turn out to be crooks, con men or deplorable people.

With that said, I'm all for Trump getting rid of all the hard core violent Undocumented...biggest problem with the Liar In Chief, it's just a blanket statement to give ICE the power to scrape up a lot of other innocents indiscriminately. More so than President Obama's deportation raids