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Dres2011 03-30-2017 04:44 PM
Kelly: Homeland Isn't Targeting Law-Abiding ‘Dreamers’ - See more at: http://www.roll
 
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The Homeland Security Department is not seeking to deport undocumented young people enrolled in an Obama administration program who have not violated the terms of their protected status, Secretary John F. Kelly told Senate Democrats on Wednesday.

The status of these young people, known as Dreamers, who were brought to the United States by their undocumented immigrant parents has been a subject of concern since President Donald Trump promised during his campaign to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and deport millions of people living in the country illegally.

Although the program known as DACA remains operational, immigrant advocates have raised concerns over the arrest in February of a young man in Seattle with protected status whom the Trump administration insists has gang ties. The administration possesses the personal information of about 750,000 DACA enrollees, stoking further fears of deportations.

“By definition, they’re no longer DACA if they have a violation,” Kelly told reporters after the meeting. “The DACA status is a commitment not only by the government towards the so-called Dreamer, but by that person to obey the law, and some of them don’t. We have not picked up — I don’t care what you read or people say — we have not in my time picked up someone who was covered by DACA.”

But roughly 20 Senate Democrats who attended the meeting appeared divided on Kelly’s assurances. Their session Wednesday follows a contentious meeting between Kelly and House Democrats earlier this month on the Trump administration’s immigration policies and tactics.

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., said she left “with frustration” and that Kelly’s openness to lawmakers was “open to interpretation.” Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., agreed, saying, “Frustration would be a good word.”

But Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin, D-Ill., said the meeting was “very positive.”

“There was some clarity that came out of it in terms of the standards that are being used at Homeland Security, and some reassurances,” he said.

Durbin said it was not fair to broadly characterize the meeting as frustrating to all senators in attendance.

“I think there are some who are frustrated, and that’s fair,” he said. “There are others who believe the secretary made a good faith effort to answer the questions. What remains to be seen is what happens next.”

Durbin said he would recommend undocumented young people who qualify for DACA to enroll in the program. Advocacy groups had advised against it following Trump’s election.

Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., the ranking member on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, told reporters Kelly had agreed to testify on various immigration issues at a hearing next week.

In a previous meeting with House lawmakers, Democratic Caucus Chairman Joseph Crowley of New York described Kelly’s tone as “dismissive” of lawmakers’ concerns. Senators did not describe the same tension Wednesday.

Gopal Ratnam contributed to this report.

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Supportdaca 03-30-2017 04:56 PM
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Awesome. Stay out of trouble and don't associate yourself with trouble.

MIdreamer 03-30-2017 05:59 PM
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No drug, no smoke, no alcohol and no hoes.

Supportdaca 03-30-2017 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 610487)
No drug, no smoke, no alcohol and no hoes.
Just live normally. Be a responsible person and don't do drugs, don't drink and drive, and find yourself a good girl lol

Smooth 03-30-2017 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dres2011 (Post 610485)
Be careful. Posting these types of articles might make you seem like a Trump supporter or uncle Tom.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 06:45 PM
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"No smoke, no hoes."

shit.

tf2legend 03-30-2017 07:29 PM
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Good that should ease some of the fears people may still have.

Your're fine unless you get in trouble..

Smooth 03-30-2017 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tf2legend (Post 610491)
Good that should ease some of the fears people may still have.

Your're fine unless you get in trouble..
$100 bucks it will not. People will still fear monger and speculate that these detentions will affect renewal applications. All hearsay.

isk84life 03-30-2017 08:49 PM
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I have a misdemeanor for driving without a license from 8 years ago. What does this even mean for me lol

Gnome 03-30-2017 08:55 PM
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The DACA status is a commitment not only by the government towards the so-called Dreamer, but by that person to obey the law, and some of them don’t.
Better words have not been uttered. Great message by Kelly.

But out of nowhere will surface United We Dream a la Astrid claiming that, no, this isn't right, citizenship for all undocs, including criminals, or GTFO. >_>

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610498)
Deport Astrid

lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)

Take me for example, I admit I did some risky stuff before. Not any fucking more!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610428)
I probably engaged in risky stuff VERY few times. I can count them in one
Why do dreamers here have this mess up mentality, that is okay for them to fuck up, but god forbid any other dreamer from messing up or else deport them.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 09:42 PM
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To err is human.

Again, I never said those things I did were OK.

You know what, you don't even know what I did and you're still hounding me.

What if I let the parking meter ran out few times?

afloo12345 03-30-2017 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 610495)
I have a misdemeanor for driving without a license from 8 years ago. What does this even mean for me lol
Good fucking question. I would assume any future violations put you in his crosshairs since they already approved your initial status. It's actually kinda crazy that out of a majority of potential criminals they choose to put such a huge emphasis on us...

isk84life 03-30-2017 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by afloo12345 (Post 610506)
Good fucking question. I would assume any future violations put you in his crosshairs since they already approved your initial status. It's actually kinda crazy that out of a majority of potential criminals they choose to put such a huge emphasis on us...
I havent done anything that would violate my DACA (renewed once before), just gotten traffic tickets. I have never been the drugs or trouble maker type of guy. I was always busy with school

Smooth 03-30-2017 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610502)
Why do dreamers here have this mess up mentality, that is okay for them to fuck up, but god forbid any other dreamer from messing up or else deport them.
What? You are not making any sense. First of all, most of the DAP dreamers who criticize the ones who do have a record (maybe a few, such as one dreamer who got deported for a DUI) have not admitted any mistakes. Second, if we have made mistakes in life, I am quite sure our mistakes( e.g. forgetting to flush the toilet) do not compare with a f*cking DUI, Pianos.

Plain and simple, if you are doing stupid shit (such as driving under the influence), you deserve to get deported. Society constantly warns us not to do this because the consequences are grave, yet dumb asses still go ahead and do it.

godsavethequeen 03-30-2017 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610502)
Why do dreamers here have this mess up mentality, that is okay for them to fuck up, but god forbid any other dreamer from messing up or else deport them.
You can kill an entire family with a DUI. It's a pretty serious thing and it is one of the leading causes of death for young people. I don't think it should be considered a mistake.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 610511)
What? You are not making any sense. First of all, most of the DAP dreamers who criticize the ones who do have a record (maybe a few, such as one dreamer who got deported for a DUI) have not admitted any mistakes. Second, if we have made mistakes in life, I am quite sure our mistakes( e.g. forgetting to flush the toilet) do not compare with a f*cking DUI, Pianos.

Plain and simple, if you are doing stupid shit (such as driving under the influence), you deserve to get deported. Society constantly warns us not to do this because the consequences are grave, yet dumb asses still go ahead and do it.
risky business is risky business and we don't even know what he did.

Why do you enjoy and like defending "dreamers" who would take risky choices?

Dres2011 03-30-2017 10:38 PM
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“By definition, they’re no longer DACA if they have a violation,” Kelly told reporters after the meeting. “The DACA status is a commitment not only by the government towards the so-called Dreamer, but by that person to obey the law, and some of them don’t. We have not picked up — I don’t care what you read or people say — we have not in my time picked up someone who was covered by DACA.”
self evident ...

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 10:41 PM
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also, since when does this Astrid Silva (who clearly doesn't represent any of you) have a DUI? I did not know that at all.

I love how he just says

"deport her" and adds an "lol.." despite him himself having a more fuck up past than her.

Smooth 03-30-2017 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610513)
risky business is risky business and we don't even know what he did.

Why do you enjoy and like defending "dreamers" who would take risky choices?
What? Dude, are you trolling? Who am I defending? I am saying the DUI Dreamer who got deported deserved it. Who in their right mind drives under the influence after getting DACA?

Smooth 03-30-2017 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610516)
also, since when does this Astrid Silva (who clearly doesn't represent any of you) have a DUI? I did not know that at all.

I love how he just says

"deport her" and adds an "lol.." despite him himself having a more fuck up past than her.
Dude, did I ever say she has a DUI? Read carefully.

Smooth 03-30-2017 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnome (Post 610496)
Better words have not been uttered. Great message by Kelly.

But out of nowhere will surface United We Dream a la Astrid claiming that, no, this isn't right, citizenship for all undocs, including criminals, or GTFO. >_>
Yep; pretty much.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 610517)
What? Dude, are you trolling? Who am I defending? I am saying the DUI Dreamer who got deported deserved it. Who in their right mind drives under the influence after getting DACA?
We are not talking about that said dreamer who has a DUI.


Allow me to point to you at what i was directly that to


I am wondering why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say who should be deported and should not, in this case, this Astrid person, when him himself has a questionable background.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)
I admit I did some risky stuff before. Not any fucking more!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)

In 14 years I have lived in US, I probably engaged in risky stuff VERY few times. I can count them in one hand. There were no repeated habitual patterns that kept on happening again and again.

Now, there are not happening EVER again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 610518)
Dude, did I ever say she has a DUI? Read carefully.


I did read carefully, you answer to some made up argument that no one here is talking about. No one here said or brought up anyone with a DUI. I asked why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say who should be deported
Because he made the following post


Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610498)
Deport Astrid

lol

I was basing my reply on this. Why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say this shit when him himself has some shady background that he for some reason admitted to?

How the hell did you read this and thought that it was time to bring up some imaginary argument about someone with a DUI as some defend. I actually have no idea what you were going with that.

Are you now following along?

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610516)
also, since when does this Astrid Silva (who clearly doesn't represent any of you) have a DUI? I did not know that at all.

I love how he just says

"deport her" and adds an "lol.." despite him himself having a more fuck up past than her.
More "fucked" up past

I fixed it for you.

Maybe you should work on your english. Maybe or maybe not. Just suggesting lol.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610521)
We are not talking about that said dreamer who has a DUI.


Allow me to point to you at what i was directly that to


I am wondering why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say who should be deported and should not, in this case, this Astrid person, when him himself has a questionable background.













I did read carefully, you answer to some made up argument that no one here is talking about. No one here said or brought up anyone with a DUI. I asked why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say who should be deported
Because he made the following post





I was basing my reply on this. Why does GOT_DACA feel entitle to say this shit when him himself has some shady background that he for some reason admitted to?

How the hell did you read this and thought that it was time to bring up some imaginary argument about someone with a DUI as some defend. I actually have no idea what you were going with that.

Are you now following along?



What is my "shady background"?

What did I do exactly and where is the proof?

You can't go around accusing people of shit.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610498)
Deport Astrid

lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610523)
What is my "shady background"?

What did I do exactly and where is the proof?

You can't go around accusing people of shit.
So, they don't you share with us what you did then. I mean, here we are assuming the worse man. So better clear some stuff before we start crying to deport your ass too


You are the one who said this

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)

Take me for example, I admit I did some risky stuff before. Not any fucking more!


Not even once but twice

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)

In 14 years I have lived in US, I probably engaged in risky stuff VERY few times. I can count them in one hand. There were no repeated habitual patterns that kept on happening again and again.

Now, there are not happening EVER again.


Is like you are asking for people to ask why you feel so entitle to cry out "deport her!" while your yourself have a shady background

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610524)
So, they don't you share with us what you did then. I mean, here we are assuming the worse man. So better clear some stuff before we start crying to deport your ass too


You are the one who said this





Not even once but twice





Is like you are asking for people to ask why you feel so entitle to cry out "deport her!" while your yourself have a shady background


I asked you and I will ask you again what if I simply had the parking meter ran out couple of times?

What if I had driven 1 mph above speeding limit?

What if I didn't stop fully at a stop sign but simply rolled?

Am I deportable then?

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610522)

Maybe you should work on your english. Maybe or maybe not. Just suggesting lol.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)

Now, there are not happening EVER again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610424)
Not any fucking more!
What are you even saying here? Jesus christ you are one hypocrite person


Now, there are not happening EVER again.

There is where? Where is not happening ever agai-., omg I cannot do this with out bursting into laughter

You mean

"now, they are not happening ever again"





Not any fucking more!


whats any? I did not think we had comedians here, tears are coming out of me. I am dying here

You mean

"Not fucking around anymore!"

?




"lol"

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610526)
I asked you and I will ask you again what if I simply had the parking meter ran out couple of times?

What if I had driven 1 mph above speeding limit?

What if I didn't stop fully at a stop sign but simply rolled?

Am I deportable?
I don't know, you tell us. You are somehow the decider of who can be deported and who cannot.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:21 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty in the court of law.

Sorry that you had a very lonely boring life. Your life must suck.

lol

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610529)

lol

Basically you have nothing substantial to say and are done here.


the logout button is in the top corner, right next to the donate button.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610528)
I don't know
If you don't know why are you accusing me of having "shady background"?

I don't go around saying "you're in love with Astrid". lmao

Let me tell you the answer to my 3 questions, NO.

Those little things doesn't make one deportable.

And NO, I won't tell you shit.

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 610530)
Basically you have nothing substantial to say and are done here.
You're the one started accusing me of "having shady background."

I don't know you and don't want nothing to do with you.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610531)
If you don't know why are you accusing me of having "shady background"?


I never said Astrid to be deported, you did. You asked me what is deportable, and I replied, I don't know. Because again, I am not the one saying who should be deported and should not be. You are who posted this

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610498)
Deport Astrid

lol


Clearly you are an expert on who should be deported and who shouldn't be. Not us who aren't posting shit like that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610533)
You're the one started accusing me of "having shady background."

The ignore option is right here

http://dreamact.info/forum/profile.php?do=ignorelist

isk84life 03-30-2017 11:39 PM
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Why you guys gotta fight haha

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:39 PM
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If you are proven guilty of serious crime in court, then you should be deported.

Simple as that.

Astrid is not even a Dreamer, why she get to speak for us.

I want to deport Astrid from all DACA related issues.

Let's make that clear.

lol

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-30-2017 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 610538)
Why you guys gotta fight haha
GOT_DACA admitted to doing risky things in the past (see my signature ) and somehow feels entitled to deport people

Got_Daca 03-30-2017 11:55 PM
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Yes, I did some risky stuff

I guess it is time to admit

I ate gluten few times.

Smooth 03-31-2017 12:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 610539)
If you are proven guilty of serious crime in court, then you should be deported.

Simple as that.

Astrid is not even a Dreamer, why she get to speak for us.

I want to deport Astrid from all DACA related issues.

Let's make that clear.

lol
lmfaoooooooooooooo savage.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-31-2017 12:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 610545)
lmfaoooooooooooooo savage.
If it was up Smooth, not even GOT_DACA would be safe from his wrath


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