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2MoreYears 07-15-2017 11:26 AM
White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Attach RACA to this bill and pass it!


http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politi...-cotton-trump/

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Washington (CNN)The Trump administration is working with two senators on a bill that would restrict and revamp some of the legal avenues for immigrating to the United States, sources confirm to CNN, but the bill remains a long way from potential passage in Congress.

The bill from Republican Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia was introduced in February but will be re-introduced with some changes, Cotton's office confirmed.

The original version of the bill cut back on what's referred to as "chain migration," ways of immigrating to the United States that are based on family or not based on skills. The bill would limit the types of family members of immigrants that can also be brought to the US to primarily spouses and minor children, would eliminate the international diversity visa lottery and limit the number of annual refugee admissions.

An administration official characterized the discussions as one of many efforts to work with lawmakers on potential pieces of immigration reform. Politico was first to report the talks.
The over-arching goal for the Cotton-Perdue bill, the official said, is to install a system where immigrants are allowed into the country based on their skills and contributions, as opposed to familial connections or a lottery.
"The bottom line here is that the President believes we should have a merit-based system of immigration in this country," the official told CNN. "What the merit-based system would do is bring our immigration policy more in line with what's good for American workers and taxpayers, so that's the overarching goal, and that I'm sure is the driving force behind talks with Congress and these senators."

The official acknowledged that it remains to be seen whether the White House goes all in to support a final version of the bill, which faces an uphill climb in Congress.
"I think we're a long ways away," the official said.
The President spoke about a desire for comprehensive immigration reform while flying to Paris Wednesday night as well.
"What I'd like to do is a comprehensive immigration plan. But our country and political forces are not ready yet," Trump told reporters.
Perdue and Cotton's offices both confirmed the senators continue to work on the "RAISE Act" but wouldn't elaborate on details.
While a move to end chain migration was part of the ill-fated Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill that passed the Senate but died in the House in 2013, that bill was loaded with other side deals that helped pave the way for passage.

"To me it's more of almost a political discussion vs. actual enactment or trying to enact policy," said former Bush administration Homeland Security deputy James Norton, who now works as a strategist.
Rosemary Jenks, the vice president and director of government relations for NumbersUSA, a group that advocates limited legal immigration and supports the RAISE Act, said her group stands ready to support it, she said, but still lacks a clear feel for where the administration wants to go.

"(We're) feeling a little bit more optimistic about some of them and pushing forward that much harder because it appears there may be an opportunity here and if there is, we want to be ready for it," Jenks said.
In addition to the difficulty of building a bill that works for the many constituencies represented in both parties, the Senate calendar has proven daunting for lawmakers this year, who are still struggling to pass an Obamacare repeal bill, need to extend government funding by the end of September, hope to pass tax reform and need to pass a defense authorization.
A nasty fight over immigration reform could also scuttle efforts to pass government funding that includes money for Trump's border wall.
"It has momentum in the sense that there are definitely people who have been working on immigration since day one," Norton said, "but I think in terms of active legislation I think it has a very difficult road for it to go down to become law."

Swim19 07-15-2017 01:25 PM
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That's a huge change to our immigration system, and I'm not sure democrats would be willing to compromise for only RACA. Also passing something like this would take time, and we don't have a lot of it if the lawsuit is successful. I think the wall or Kate's law would be a better venue, but that's my opinion only.

Dreamerr 07-15-2017 01:47 PM
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If this bill passes it will be 1997 again . Our second big hit since the implementation of the 10 year band . Let's make no mistake this bill is based on pure and utter racism.

BeeHive 07-15-2017 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamerr (Post 619036)
If this bill passes it will be 1997 again . Our second big hit since the implementation of the 10 year band . Let's make no mistake this bill is based on pure and utter racism.
What happened in 1997?

Nycgal111 07-15-2017 02:16 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
I think 10 year ban happened in 1997. So if this bill were to pass, what happens to all the pending family applications?

2Face 07-15-2017 02:28 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Democrats really need to take the initiative here and use some leverage to put in some type of provision/amendment to secure DACA recipients. Schumer and Gutierrez should take this opportunity! We are never going to achieve anything if we just keep on demanding "citizenship for all."

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 02:38 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
The entire "citizenship for all" is just a tactic used for negation. When you sell a car, you increase its real price because you know people will low ball big time.

Democrats are playing that game and see what republicans are willing to comprise at because lets face it, if it was up to republicans, they would vote to deport us all.


Once real negotiations start, as in a bill actually makes to debate then theyll start adding or taking stuff from it. Republicans are going to low ball the democrats into a deal.

2Face 07-15-2017 03:47 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619048)
The entire "citizenship for all" is just a tactic used for negation. When you sell a car, you increase its real price because you know people will low ball big time.

Democrats are playing that game and see what republicans are willing to comprise at because lets face it, if it was up to republicans, they would vote to deport us all.


Once real negotiations start, as in a bill actually makes to debate then theyll start adding or taking stuff from it. Republicans are going to low ball the democrats into a deal.
Let me tell you how it is. The entire "citizenship for all" is a tactic to deliberately fail the damn thing and make the Republicans/Trump reject it completely. The Democrats don't want any solution to happen because they are afraid Trump will claim victory and use that to take away immigrant votes. This is the dirty truth. We are going to have to force Democrats to get their shit together and stop using us. We can't ask "citizenship for all". That's suicide. We should not be fighting for deadbeat criminals/gangbangers/DUI convicts. And we don't want citizenship. We just want DACA type status to become permanent.

Dreamerr 07-15-2017 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamerr (Post 619036)
If this bill passes it will be 1997 again . Our second big hit since the implementation of the 10 year band . Let's make no mistake this bill is based on pure and utter racism.
Leave the legal system alone ! The last immigration reform happened in 1997 and it included the 10 year ban.

I understan 2face and Pianoswithoutfaith are perfect little angels and don't care about anyone else but themselves but I have parents and family that have been here for 30years and know no other country. So Enough with the fear , lack of empathy and republicanism expressed on this forum .

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamerr (Post 619062)
Leave the legal system alone ! The last immigration reform happened in 1997 and it included the 10 year ban.

I understan 2face and Pianoswithoutfaith are perfect little angels and don't care about anyone else but themselves but I have parents and family that have been here for 30years and know no other country. So Enough with the fear , lack of empathy and republicanism expressed on this forum .



I am for legalizing parents and age out dreamers

2Face is for legalizing jusr DACa holders at the cost of tougher immigration laws

Dreamerr 07-15-2017 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619064)
I am for legalizing parents and age out dreamers

2Face is for legalizing jusr DACa holders at the cost of tougher immigration laws
I take back what I said about you .

Got_Daca 07-15-2017 05:09 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
We need just handful of Dem senators voting for measures like RACA.

Screw the whole Dem party.

We need to press on Sens like Durbin, Bennett etc vote for DACA legislation and limited future immigration.

2Face 07-15-2017 05:16 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619064)
I am for legalizing parents and age out dreamers

2Face is for legalizing jusr DACa holders at the cost of tougher immigration laws
Shut up brosef. I would dominate your ass if I ran an in election against you. You are 100% against DACA and are rooting for Trump to get rid of it because you're getting a green card. Repeat after me fellas DEPORT ALL DUI CONVICTS!

imDreaming 07-15-2017 05:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619069)
Shut up brosef. I would dominate your ass if I ran an in election against you. You are 100% against DACA and are rooting for Trump to get rid of it. Repeat after me fellas DEPORT ALL DUI CONVICTS!
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by imDreaming (Post 619070)
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.

And he says I am against DACa what a delusional republican wanna be.


Yeah if he ran for election he would be running for the GOP straight UP

Dreamerr 07-15-2017 06:08 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imDreaming (Post 619070)
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.

Finally a sensible and humane post . Sometimes we get so caught up in politics we lose sight at what being human means . Real life and real world mistakes and implications it's why we are in this mess to begin with and why there is no forgiveness because of politics. Thank god for Obama .

Some dreamers might live like robots and not make any mistakes but don't forget your human too and at some point in life one will happen . What terrible irony to be stricken down for something you helped support .

I was in a similar situation however I was lucky and my family understood that it was a mistake, banned together and got me an amazing lawyer. I was seriously saved by everyone understanding and standing by my side to support through what was the scariest moment in my life. Now I have my beautiful wife petitioning me for a green card. Not everyone can be so lucky and I am completely grateful and humbled from this experience. It has changed my life and I advocate even more now for my values and views on this subject.

I'm not sure if 2face meant to say deport all dui convicts or was quoting Pianoswithoutfaith.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamerr (Post 619075)
Finally a sensible and humane post . Sometimes we get so caught up in politics we lose sight at what being human means . Real life and real world mistakes and implications it's why we are in this mess to begin with and why there is no forgiveness because of politics. Thank god for Obama .

Some dreamers might live like robots and not make any mistakes but don't forget your human too and at some point in life one will happen . What terrible irony to be stricken down for something you helped support .

I was in a similar situation however I was lucky and my family understood that it was a mistake, banned together and got me an amazing lawyer. I was seriously saved by everyone understanding and standing by my side to support through what was the scariest moment in my life. Now I have my beautiful wife petitioning me for a green card. Not everyone can be so lucky and I am completely grateful and humbled from this experience. It has changed my life and I advocate even more now for my values and views on this subject.

I'm not sure if 2face meant to say deport all dui convicts or was quoting Pianoswithoutfaith.


What


2Facw is the resident trump supporter who would vote republican if he could and no he wasn't quoting me

danieltij 07-15-2017 06:36 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imDreaming (Post 619070)
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.
It's tough being sensitive to other people's struggles when you bring those struggles upon yourself. Or did someone force him to drink and drive?

2Face 07-15-2017 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619077)
What


2Facw is the resident trump supporter who would vote republican if he could and no he wasn't quoting me
DACA is not ending. I don't care about anything else. Do whatever you can. You're not getting your wish you traitor. I'm definitely voting Republican once I become a citizen you fucking twat. Come pay my taxes first bitch and then tell me how to vote.

2Face 07-15-2017 06:58 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imDreaming (Post 619070)
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.
Well thank you for following my posts. I am sorry to say but we are now facing the reality of living under Trump. I am not the one who voted him in. That said, we can't afford to ask the administration to provide citizenship to all. Have nothing against your husband but if you look at the big picture, its time Democrats give up on this fight for "citizenship for all" and start focusing on compromising and facing reality. If we start campaigning for criminals (not talking about your husband right now), we regular people will never ever become legalized. Unfortunately for you the Trump administration's definition of criminal is very broad and includes anyone who has even a minor offense so this is just me following that. It would have been a different story if we had a Democrat President.

Supportdaca 07-15-2017 07:04 PM
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Can you guys reply to each other like mature adults? If any outside people came and checked out these posts, it wouldn't be a good representation of Dreamers when they're bickering like children.

2Face 07-15-2017 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Supportdaca (Post 619082)
Can you guys reply to each other like mature adults? If any outside people came and checked out these posts, it wouldn't be a good representation of Dreamers when they're bickering like children.
Believe me it hurts me to use foul language like this. I am a very eloquent speaker and model DACA recipient but we have some bad hombres up in here who are posing as DACA recipients and secretly scaring everyone and wishing ill upon the program. We need to weed out these parasites from here and tell the lurkers the true story.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619083)
Believe me it hurts me to use foul language like this. I am a very eloquent speaker and model DACA recipient but we have some bad hombres up in here who are posing as DACA recipients and secretly scaring everyone and wishing ill upon the program. We need to weed out these parasites from here and tell the lurkers the true story.


Lmao hahahaha hahahahahaha oh my god


So 2Face will you vote republican straight up when you can?

Supportdaca 07-15-2017 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619083)
Believe me it hurts me to use foul language like this. I am a very eloquent speaker and model DACA recipient but we have some bad hombres up in here who are posing as DACA recipients and secretly scaring everyone and wishing ill upon the program. We need to weed out these parasites from here and tell the lurkers the true story.

Then don't stoop low and start name calling if that's the case. I'm not personally attacking you or anybody. Just show a better image because you don't know if your enemies are snooping around and want to label dreamers low class. Calling each other bitches or fags.

Especially at a time like this.

DACA-IR-DA 07-15-2017 07:27 PM
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I don't think it would effect pending I-130s.

People keep saying RACA and yes RACA is just as good as Dream Act but there does not seem to get much support for it right now.

Where is Durbin?

Smooth 07-15-2017 07:35 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619048)
The entire "citizenship for all" is just a tactic used for negation. When you sell a car, you increase its real price because you know people will low ball big time.

Democrats are playing that game and see what republicans are willing to comprise at because lets face it, if it was up to republicans, they would vote to deport us all.


Once real negotiations start, as in a bill actually makes to debate then theyll start adding or taking stuff from it. Republicans are going to low ball the democrats into a deal.
Good to know you view it as a malleable strategy. I have met a few dreamers who just will not compromise, which I think is counterproductive. They want all or nothing. TOXIC bunch of culos.

Three Dreamer Cliques: Progressive Ideologues, Centrists, and Conservatives.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 619089)
Good to know you view it as a malleable strategy. I have met a few dreamers who just will not compromise, which I think is counterproductive. They want all or nothing. TOXIC bunch of culos.

Three Dreamer Cliques: Progressive Ideologues, Centrists, and Conservatives.


This is all about going to be about negotiating and low balling on the republicans side more than the democratic side. Like 2Face our beloved republican lover or someone else said allowing trump/republican a CIR victory would win them votes in the long run. Who will be remember as the party that helped illegal aliens ?


So democrats are going full in here. They know they won't get legalization for everyone but this party won't move do much like in 2013 where republicans house was holding back that CIR. The only difference was republicans wanted the opposite they made a super hard path for the democrat to low ball. But they never did since that house speaker never wanted to introduce it

2Face 07-15-2017 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619091)
This is all about going to be about negotiating and low balling on the republicans side more than the democratic side. Like 2Face our beloved republican lover or someone else said allowing trump/republican a CIR victory would win them votes in the long run. Who will be remember as the party that helped illegal aliens ?


So democrats are going full in here. They know they won't get legalization for everyone but this party won't move do much like in 2013 where republicans house was holding back that CIR. The only difference was republicans wanted the opposite they made a super hard path for the democrat to low ball. But they never did since that house speaker never wanted to introduce it
Take this post seriously and go sit down and think about this. The fact that you belittle someone else because they support Republicans is the most baffling thing about you. Like why are you telling me how to think? You've played no role in my upbringing and haven't paid a cent towards my schooling or anything. I'm free to support whoever I want. How do you feel now about calling us "Dirty Trump supporters"? Our EADs are still with us. Its high time you get on board and stop rallying against DACA. Till date, you have still not said the words "I support DACA." That is proof alone you're a DACA hater. I can't wait to see your reaction come September/October when DACA survives.

2MoreYears 07-15-2017 08:53 PM
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someone supporting them deserves to be belittled in all honesty, why don't you consider becoming an indepentet better ?

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619092)
The fact that you belittle someone else because they support Republicans

Reminder that its republicans who are threatening 2Faces Daddy Trump with a lawsuit to end DACA


Ken Paxton - Republican

Steve Marshall - Republican

Jeff Landry - Republican


Doug Peterson - Republican

Alan Wilson - Republican

Leslie Rutledge - Republican

Lawrence G. Wasden - Republican

Herbert Slatery III - Republican


C.L. “Butch” Otter - Republican


Derek Schmidt - Republican


Patrick Morrisey - Republican



So, 2Face, why do you hate DACA so much and come here with this republicanism?

Did you or did you not once said

"if I ever become USC, I am voting Republican straight up!"

Dreamerr 07-15-2017 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619096)
Reminder that its republicans who are threatening 2Faces Daddy Trump with a lawsuit to end DACA


Ken Paxton - Republican

Steve Marshall - Republican

Jeff Landry - Republican


Doug Peterson - Republican

Alan Wilson - Republican

Leslie Rutledge - Republican

Lawrence G. Wasden - Republican

Herbert Slatery III - Republican


C.L. “Butch” Otter - Republican


Derek Schmidt - Republican


Patrick Morrisey - Republican



So, 2Face, why do you hate DACA so much and come here with this republicanism?

Did you or did you not once say

"if I ever become USC, I am voting Republican straight up!"
It baffles my mind when Daca or illegal immigrants like that pastor in California or that lady with the undocumented husband or that green card holder in Texas that voted illegally all support and vote republican . All of which were deported .

What's worse is the local control given to this republicans in local elections these are communities with over 90 percent immigrants who have republican representatives. Because of these few immigrants who vote republican.

It's always amazing how it's always African, Asian and Indian immigrants who like Cubans turn around and slave themselves to their white masters . Look at me I'm just like you I vote republican too and I hate immigrants too please make me white and accept me into your culture , schools and churches .


I almost want to give 2fce the benefit of the doubt . It sounds like he's upset at all the hard work he had to do and now lacks empathy for everyone. He might be an economic conservative and only a conservative in the ideas that you work hard and not expect handouts . I refuse to believe he actually supports all the republican ideals how can anyone be this blind . How can anyone save themselves and see others get deported even your own parents .

chessmaster05 07-15-2017 09:17 PM
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Will this bill say ok. You have an M.S. in mechanical, chemical, civil, software, nuclear engineering? If so, then a green card is awaiting you? Just like Canada or Australia? If not then I call BS law. Like usual America

2Face 07-15-2017 09:22 PM
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I don't care about any of that bullshit. All I know is Comprehensive Immigration Reform, I don't care what it looks like, is going to be happening under Republican president. And if that comes true, I will be voting Republican once I become a citizen. If the CIR includes my family and me securing work permits and the right to travel, that will be sufficient for me. I don't care about becoming a citizen. You are free to campaign for "citizenship for all including criminals". You're just going to be fucking it up for innocent people like me. Anyway today..consider it the last day you see any curse words/insults from me. I don't like talking that way to anyone. I'm a true people's man. If I met you in person, you'd fucking have a blast with me and I wouldn't even be how I am here. I'm a true entertainer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 619096)
Reminder that its republicans who are threatening 2Faces Daddy Trump with a lawsuit to end DACA


Ken Paxton - Republican

Steve Marshall - Republican

Jeff Landry - Republican


Doug Peterson - Republican

Alan Wilson - Republican

Leslie Rutledge - Republican

Lawrence G. Wasden - Republican

Herbert Slatery III - Republican


C.L. “Butch” Otter - Republican


Derek Schmidt - Republican


Patrick Morrisey - Republican



So, 2Face, why do you hate DACA so much and come here with this republicanism?

Did you or did you not once said

"if I ever become USC, I am voting Republican straight up!"

Got_Daca 07-15-2017 09:43 PM
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If you cant become a citizen then the next President can always kick you out.

Citizenship is what we should be aiming for.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619099)
I don't care about any of that bullshit. All I know is Comprehensive Immigration Reform, I don't care what it looks like, is going to be happening under Republican president. And if that comes true, I will be voting Republican once I become a citizen. If the CIR includes my family and me securing work permits and the right to travel, that will be sufficient for me. I don't care about becoming a citizen. You are free to campaign for "citizenship for all including criminals". You're just going to be fucking it up for innocent people like me. Anyway today..consider it the last day you see any curse words/insults from me. I don't like talking that way to anyone. I'm a true people's man. If I met you in person, you'd fucking have a blast with me and I wouldn't even be how I am here. I'm a true entertainer.
This cannot be trolling lmao. He even edited it a few times. I think we all see 2Facws gimmick which is no different thanks DAuseea whatever it takes one.


"House CIR bill would first ask applicants to leave country first"

DAuser: whatever it takes

"house CIR to ask applicants to report to ICE periodically "


DAUser: whatever it takes

chessmaster05 07-15-2017 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 619100)
If you cant become a citizen then the next President can always kick you out.

Citizenship is what we should be aiming for.
You're asking for too much. Nobody will give you citizenship. Be contempt with a GC.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-15-2017 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chessmaster05 (Post 619109)
You're asking for too much. Nobody will give you citizenship. Be contempt with a GC.
I am not even asking for GC, I think most of us would be more than happy if DACA became a law and we wouldn't have to worry about this.


Can you imagine a bill actually passing and being a law that does grant us GC only to be threaten again by some racist jerks?

VIK 07-15-2017 11:32 PM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imDreaming (Post 619070)
That's pretty harsh. My husband got a dwai on his 20th birthday for 1 shot. Was it stupid? Yes. Has he learned from it? Absolutely. Thanks to it, he didn't qualify for DACA. Because of his mistake, we aren't able to buy a home among many other things. This happened over 10 years ago. Does this mean he should be deported? No! He was brought here as a 5 year old as well and has only been in trouble with the law that 1 and only time. His family was so upset with him that they turned their back on him. He wasn't able to hire a lawyer and pled whatever he was told to plead.

People make mistakes! I usually look forward to your posts because you bring positivity, but this one really pissed me off. Be a little more sensitive to the struggles other people go through.
I qualified for the DACA with a DUI Conviction from 2007.
You're absolutely correct we all make mistakes. I'm still paying for mine,I really don't what is that guys problem but don't pay attention.

Laterlater 07-16-2017 02:24 AM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 619099)
All I know is Comprehensive Immigration Reform, I don't care what it looks like, is going to be happening under Republican president.
Genuinely curious.
What are you basing this assumption on?

I notice reading is considered superfluous and supererogatory on this forum for most, but--

In the very same article sited by OP, Trump himself states that they are not working on CIR:

"What I'd like to do is a comprehensive immigration plan. But our country and political forces are not ready yet," Trump told reporters.

And it never will be, since it is the Republican caucus themselves who are principally against it.

The best shot at it thus far came in 2013, when the then Senate CIR bipartisan bill was stalled at the House - not because they did not have the votes, but because the Republican Speaker would not even allow it a simple up or down vote.

What CIR - if we can even call it that - will look like under Republican control will be skewed mostly towards enforcement; and, maybe, a even narrower legalization option, likely at best exclusively for DACA receipts only.

libertarian1776 07-16-2017 02:28 AM
Re: White House working with senators on immigration limits
 
this is true, only "legalization" happening under this administration will be the Dreamers.

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Originally Posted by Laterlater (Post 619146)
What CIR - if we can even call it that - will look like under Republican control will be skewed mostly towards enforcement; and, maybe, a even narrower legalization option, likely at best exclusively for DACA receipts only.


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