Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

Ferguson said he and the other 19 attorneys general are prepared to sue if the administration doesn’t continue DACA. Any lawsuit is likely to end up before the U.S. Supreme Court, he said.


“I think (abolishing DACA) is wrong morally, and I think it’s wrong legally,” Ferguson said. “We want to communicate to the president that we expect him to defend the program.”

In their letter, the 20 attorneys general argue immigrants who have been granted DACA have a positive effect on the economy, citing studies that show DACA has increased recipients’ hourly wages by an average of 42 percent. The increase, they say, gives immigrants more purchasing power, allowing them to buy homes, cars and other goods and services that help bolster the economy.

They said DACA recipients also make communities safer by allowing them to report crimes to police without fear of deportation.

However, opponents of DACA argue the program is unlawful and protects people who shouldn’t be in the country.

Ferguson said it’s hard to determine what exactly might happen to DACA recipients if the program gets rolled back, but he said the effect on them would certainly be profound.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.yakim...47c5e.amp.html

This is going to be interesting. Even if conservatives outnumber liberals on the Supreme Court and they say DACA was outside the scope of presidential powers. What will they do about a million people brought here at a young age who have been benefiting for 5 years ? It may not be that cut and dry !

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

Fuck yea!!! :D

Thank you to all of these people who support out cause. We really are innocent and do not deserve punishment for what is going on.

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

What does this mean? If they sue. We will keep our DACA?

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I do not think so but, at least puts pressure on congress. Keeps our heads up from the Shadow, so we are like only partially on the shadow.


Also possible, could affect whether Dreamers can or cannot be deported until the Supreme Court can rule. Possibly?


Take this with a grain of salt, hard to say at this point really. Nevertheless positive.

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These are excellent news!

Personally, again not trying to sound selfish, taking any lawsuit all the way to the SCOTUS will give DACAers with pending applications an opportunity to get approved before a decision is made for such lawsuits which could possibly be in our favor anyways. Also, it puts pressure on congress to act and get a permanent solution in place and finally it sends a message to those aholes AGs we ain't going down easily and without a fight.

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19 AG on our side vs 10 against us... bless their hearts!!!!

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Yes, it's common sense. Most of us have huge financial responsibilities which will not be satisfied if they pull the rug from under our feet. The economic impact would be atrocious.

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

I'm scared

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

*cough* Called it. *Cough*

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

Any word on what might happen as a consequence?

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Who are the 19 AGs?

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Not needed if they pass DreamAct/RAC Act. The opportunity for permanent relief is at the door.

I doubt judge Hanen cares since they are simply adding Daca to an existing lawsuit. They need to schedule a vote for relief and all of you, us, need to do work and write, call, and advocate.

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

Can the AG sue even if the administration choices to not defend the program? What would happen if they sue? Would the injunction be lifted?

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All Democrats?

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In addition to Becerra, the attorneys general who signed the letter include Racine of the District, Brian E. Frosh of Maryland, Mark R. Herring of Virginia, and the attorneys general from Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington state.

Re: Democratic attorney generals ready to sue if DACA doesn't continue
 

Well a poster here recently noted that the Massachusetts Governor supports DACA. He is a Republican.

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Cheers to these Dems.

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You need to explicitly give credit to jaylove16 for stating that or he will come after you saying "who made you my spokesman?"

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This will ultimately end up @ Supreme Court. Dems will sue in the 9th district and DACA will be upheld. Reps will sue in the 5th district court and will probably win. But, remember 1 court can block or allow it to continue. i.e. 5th court denies it and blocks it, 9th court allows it to continue. Differences between appeals court makes it go to the supreme court. SC wont be in session until later in the year and wont rule until June unless they accept an expedited ruling. I think is DAPA was a tie I think DACA has a change to be held up.

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Don't be sweet pepper

Valar Morghulis

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All we need is one conservative judge to cross over and rule with us. This might be the case since DACA has been active for 5 years versus DAPA.

Would renewals be allowed while this all plays out??

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we will win SCOTUS, Kennedy and Roberts will swing the vote for us.

not only that it's been 5 years, but the best defense that our group has is that we had no choice in the matter when we were brought here and we couldn't decide since we were minors.

as long as there is litigation, work permits will continue.

6-3 SCOTUS vote. book it, case in point.

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Can someone remind us how each justice voted on the DAPA eDACA case

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Justice splits are not disclosed in cases affirmed by a 4-to-4 vote. but the most likely lineup, based on questioning during the oral arguments:

For DAPA/eDACA:
Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, Breyer

Against:
Kennedy, Roberts, Alito, Thomas

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I'm counting on kennedy more than anyone to vote in favor. I wonder on what standing the lawsuit will move fwd? Cost to the states due to DL? Presidential overreach?

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its very tough on what grounds now... if its presidential overreach, yeah Obama is gone tho, soooo does that make Trump using president overreach by keeping the program in place?

the driver licenses subsidies is such a petty reason for those states to sue tbh.

we dont really impact the economy in a negative way.. so i doubt the states suing can say that.

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I wanna hear a sc justice ask them why wait 5 years to sue? BAM. Shuts the republicans down right away. case dismissed. lol

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The more I think about it the more ridiculous these AGs look for even suing their own sitting republican president. Obama is gone and the program has been going on for 5 years. If the Supreme Court sites with them they lose all credibility.

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To whom, or what?

Despite the negatives of the lawsuit, the positive is more exposure on the issue of DACA. I think it is best to use that exposure to command the message and build a more robust DACA coalition by gaining moderate allies and building bridges with them. However, I also believe there should be a modicum of preparation for the case as well...the Dem coalition lawsuit evens that out at least seemingly in court(Problem still lies in the Federal judge, Circuit and Supreme. Still, these are warnings. It is not a time to be passive considering the current state of affairs.

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Haven't the courts not ruled yet whether the states even have standing to sue about this?

I think that could be an issue for both the republican AGs and maybe more so for the ones on our side.

With DAPA, I believe the judge put an injunction, but never actually ruled on the legality or whether the AG had standing to sue the federal government, and the SC was simply tied on letting the injunction in place