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Sorrybrah 09-01-2017 08:35 PM

Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8UP8fWZXo

Starts at :13

But he did have that negative facial expression before he said it

I am also a little critical of 'we love everybody'

eva02 09-01-2017 08:43 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
you don't want his supporters to feel excluded!

Malign0n 09-01-2017 08:47 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Yeah. That negative expression is because he doesn't know what to do

2MoreYears 09-01-2017 08:50 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Don't be harsh to the man, he has spared our arses so far. Gotta give credit for saying it at least.

Smooth 09-01-2017 08:50 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 630595)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8UP8fWZXo

Starts at :13

But he did have that negative facial expression before he said it

I am also a little critical of 'we love everybody'

He was probably annoyed by the reporters asking so many questions. He would have said then and there: "I want them gone."

We are a HUGE bargaining chip. He cannot touch us, or he risks fucking things up with the Dems, which he needs to get shit done.

carnivore 09-01-2017 08:50 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
I love trunk i also love you all

jm1009 09-01-2017 08:57 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
I honestly feel that he does not want to end DACA. After all, prior to 2011/2010 he was basically the embodiment of the Democratic party - a full liberal.

cmartinez 09-01-2017 08:58 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Guys, it is high time for a serious compromise. Give us DREAM Act and Mexico will make sure to get whatever result will get the U.S into the World Cup.

BeeHive 09-01-2017 09:00 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 630607)
I love trunk i also love you all

What is trunk? Ass?

moto 09-01-2017 09:06 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Honestly I don't think he is as bad as everyone was making it out to be. Yea he will probably cancel it but doesnt seem like he really wanted to cancel it.

2MoreYears 09-01-2017 09:07 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 630614)
What is trunk? Ass?



I think he meant Trump sarcastically speaking.

BeeHive 09-01-2017 09:16 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630625)
dude. n word is not cool around here

We from the north east coast. The word nigga is good among Hispanics

bad.bunny 09-01-2017 09:17 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 630627)
We from the north east coast. The word nigga is good among Hispanics

i am too. im from the queens. but i use that term in private. using it in a dreamer forum is bad publicity

carnivore 09-01-2017 09:19 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630625)
dude. n word is not cool around here

Emotions are ruining high

VJB2 09-01-2017 09:19 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630631)
i am too. im from the queens. but i use that term in private. using it in a dreamer forum is bad publicity

Thank you. Just because we hide behind usernames doesn’t mean this isn’t a public forum. Please have some class, the world is watching us.

BeeHive 09-01-2017 09:19 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630631)
i am too. im from the queens. but i use that term in private. using it in a dreamer forum is bad publicity

Understood. What part of queens?

bad.bunny 09-01-2017 09:21 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 630637)
Understood. What part of queens?

nice try ICE

2MoreYears 09-01-2017 09:24 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Nahh he's legendary good ol Chyno, -- close to 30k posts before getting a life ban in this forum. Have respect for the man. No ICE here baby, don't you know we're dreamers??

jm1009 09-01-2017 10:09 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Jesus all I see on DACA news videos from Fox on youtube is comments saying "Deport them all" "get out of my country" "deport these illegals". yikes.

anitagreencard 09-01-2017 10:21 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 630637)
Understood. What part of queens?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630639)
nice try ICE

Lmaoooo.

libertarian1776 09-01-2017 10:26 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
ive been on FB comments lately on trying to explain to these folks who say "they been here for 5 years with DACA, how come they didnt apply and do it the legal way."

we cant, there is no pathway. if there was we wouldve done it already, tbh the average american doesnt know the ins and outs of the immigration system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm1009 (Post 630662)
Jesus all I see on DACA news videos from Fox on youtube is comments saying "Deport them all" "get out of my country" "deport these illegals". yikes.


Lambo Mercy 09-01-2017 10:27 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
ICE is lurkin on this site lowkey

godsavethequeen 09-01-2017 10:36 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambo Mercy (Post 630669)
ICE is lurkin on this site lowkey

Nah. More like minuetemen wannabe trolls, extreme right wingers, and 4channers.

Diplok 09-01-2017 10:41 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 630639)
nice try ICE

First of all, it's not the Queens. It's just Queens. Second, bro, are you kidding me? When have you ever heard of ICE taking anyone in NYC. IT just doesn't happen.

To answer his question, even though it wasn't for me, I'm in Flushing.

cali_guy_31 09-01-2017 11:20 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
When he was asked "should dreamers be worried", he made that face, lowered his voice and quickly said "we love dreamers, we love everyone" without even making an eye contact and couldn't say "no they shouldn't worry". His body language tells it all. He's definitely leaning towards ending it.

vft1008 09-01-2017 11:35 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cali_guy_31 (Post 630683)
When he was asked "should dreamers be worried", he made that face, lowered his voice and quickly said "we love dreamers, we love everyone" without even making an eye contact and couldn't say "no they shouldn't worry". His body language tells it all. He's definitely leaning towards ending it.

That's not a surprise, though. Is anyone really, at this point, expecting him to keep the program?

year2010 09-01-2017 11:48 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 630685)
That's not a surprise, though. Is anyone really, at this point, expecting him to keep the program?

The logic side of me is saying no, the emotional side is saying yes. There's report saying in the later part of the press today, he said he has a good feeling about daca. Now, taking it with a grin of salt, but he used the same phrase in Arizona before he pardoned Arpaio, he had a good feeling. Who knows what that means! Plus with all that stuff happening today, more republicans came out supporting, a state pulled out the lawsuit. So, I'm praying that he will do something humane and good. Frankly, it's hard to even think right now. What do u guys think?

JayR9 09-02-2017 12:49 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 630689)
The logic side of me is saying no, the emotional side is saying yes. There's report saying in the later part of the press today, he said he has a good feeling about daca. Now, taking it with a grin of salt, but he used the same phrase in Arizona before he pardoned Arpaio, he had a good feeling. Who knows what that means! Plus with all that stuff happening today, more republicans came out supporting, a state pulled out the lawsuit. So, I'm praying that he will do something humane and good. Frankly, it's hard to even think right now. What do u guys think?

I think he should end DACA and let the EAD phase out. This will force Congress's hand in creating a legislation for us. Even if it's the Bridge Act, it will be more legitimate than DACA.

Whereisthelight 09-02-2017 12:50 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cali_guy_31 (Post 630683)
When he was asked "should dreamers be worried", he made that face, lowered his voice and quickly said "we love dreamers, we love everyone" without even making an eye contact and couldn't say "no they shouldn't worry". His body language tells it all. He's definitely leaning towards ending it.

He also nodded.

JavierHTx 09-02-2017 12:52 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 630668)
ive been on FB comments lately on trying to explain to these folks who say "they been here for 5 years with DACA, how come they didnt apply and do it the legal way."

we cant, there is no pathway. if there was we wouldve done it already, tbh the average american doesnt know the ins and outs of the immigration system.

You’re wasting your time. Those people don’t have any idea how things work or anything for that matter.

I remember there was so many walk outs during my time in high school and this white girl posted online “just get a fucking green card it’s not that hard” and she was crucified by the hispanic girls in school the next day. Lol

vft1008 09-02-2017 12:53 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 630689)
The logic side of me is saying no, the emotional side is saying yes. There's report saying in the later part of the press today, he said he has a good feeling about daca. Now, taking it with a grin of salt, but he used the same phrase in Arizona before he pardoned Arpaio, he had a good feeling. Who knows what that means! Plus with all that stuff happening today, more republicans came out supporting, a state pulled out the lawsuit. So, I'm praying that he will do something humane and good. Frankly, it's hard to even think right now. What do u guys think?

He's going to:
1. Order a phase-out cancellation of DACA.
2. Express vocal support for us.
3. State the program was originally an executive overreach.
4. Reiterate that we really terrific people and because of that, congress should act to give us legislation-based relief as it should have beeen to begin with.

This accomplishes:
1. The transfer of pressure and responsibility to Congress.
2. Takes us off his plate.
3. Shows (in his POV) how he could have just cancelled eveything, taken our EADs, and deported us, but didn't and therefore, shoes that this decision has heart behind it.
4. Makes most of his base happy since he ends the "Obama overreach in power".
5. Satisfies the AG lawsuit.... I think?


That's my bet on his actions, justification, and "logic".

JavierHTx 09-02-2017 12:54 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cali_guy_31 (Post 630683)
When he was asked "should dreamers be worried", he made that face, lowered his voice and quickly said "we love dreamers, we love everyone" without even making an eye contact and couldn't say "no they shouldn't worry". His body language tells it all. He's definitely leaning towards ending it.

Of course he’s ending it. Every source outlet has been reporting it. The whole “it’s still under review” is bullshit he already made up his mind and he’s dragging it till Tuesday for a reason.

year2010 09-02-2017 01:03 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 630707)
Of course he’s ending it. Every source outlet has been reporting it. The whole “it’s still under review” is bullshit he already made up his mind and he’s dragging it till Tuesday for a reason.

What reason could that be?

frbc13 09-02-2017 01:32 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 630709)
What reason could that be?

Dem ratings!

eva02 09-02-2017 01:41 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 630707)
Of course he’s ending it. Every source outlet has been reporting it. The whole “it’s still under review” is bullshit he already made up his mind and he’s dragging it till Tuesday for a reason.

It's the date of the lawsuit, and also the date congress gets back to work.

This will build a lot of momentum to get a bill passed.

dabioalex 09-02-2017 01:53 AM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
have a hard time believing he ends it. people have already went nuts (in a good way) with speculation that it's ending. imagine the backlash he would get for actually ending it? and there will be no grandfathered option, that just doesn't make sense considering there's still ya know a court case and 9 angry white men/woman waiting for us on tuesday that want the program gone. two scenarios: he phases it out (let's permits expire) or he doesn't touch daca and calls out the dems to save the program in court

JavierHTx 09-02-2017 12:14 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabioalex (Post 630722)
have a hard time believing he ends it. people have already went nuts (in a good way) with speculation that it's ending. imagine the backlash he would get for actually ending it? and there will be no grandfathered option, that just doesn't make sense considering there's still ya know a court case and 9 angry white men/woman waiting for us on tuesday that want the program gone. two scenarios: he phases it out (let's permits expire) or he doesn't touch daca and calls out the dems to save the program in court

You think he cares about the backlash? The idiot banned trans from joining the armed forces and that was just vile. Trump doesn’t have a heart and he’s going to please his racist cult followers as much as he can to secure his 2nd term.

dtrt09 09-02-2017 12:19 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
I don't think leaving DACA in place to be challenged in court is a good idea: DACA is not law; it's policy. Just like TPS and non-DACA deferred action it is discretionary and allowing a court case to set precedent for this exercise would likely prevent it from being re-enacted by future policy.

What if he ends it; Congress can't get its shit togeter, and he decides to restart the program?? He could not do that if this goes to court because despite the well-intended PR, it's just like DAPA except one gives you an EAD for arriving before 16 and going to school; the other gave you an EAD for arriving by 2010 and having legal or citizen family members.

The time for the DreamAct and a solution is now. Congress should get to work.

carnivore 09-02-2017 12:21 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Pass the original dream act!!!

SurfyB 09-02-2017 01:26 PM

Re: Trump: 'We love the Dreamers, We love everybody'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 630782)
You think he cares about the backlash? The idiot banned trans from joining the armed forces and that was just vile. Trump doesn’t have a heart and he’s going to please his racist cult followers as much as he can to secure his 2nd term.

I hate it but couldn't agree more, what can we expect from someone who bans trans from military and pardons a felon who used to put immigrants in pink tents for shits and giggles?

Fuck man were so fucked is not even funny.

Still we need more stories like the paramedic in Houston that has DACA, I already sent our Dept PR a letter asking for permission to show myself in uniform let's see how that goes.


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