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jaylove16 09-15-2017 01:01 PM

Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write DACA
 
Meadows said that the Freedom Caucus legislation would provide some sort of new plan to protect the "DREAMers," but it would also include provisions such as E-Verify and ways to limit the ways immigrants can get other family members to the U.S. through sponsorship.

Meadows said if Republicans can offer a better deal and have the votes to pass legislation, the White House would take a serious look.
“He likes dealmakers, I like dealmakers and so I’m going to give him enough options where there’s at least a consideration for him to take a deal where I can deliver the votes ... (for a deal) that best represents the Trump voter and the Trump agenda,” Meadows said. “At this point it’s incumbent upon me to give him good reasonable solutions on how we can get there.”

Heading up the Freedom Caucus' immigration team will be four members: Reps. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, Steve Pearce, R-N.M., Scott Perry, R-Pa., and Warren Davidson, R-Ohio. Labrador is a former immigration attorney.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ion/667619001/

They better be prepared to pass it with just republican votes then smh.

nationalsfan 09-15-2017 01:05 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
not good that these dudes are getting involved.... everything is going to get thrown out of whack if they want to include e-verify and RAISE act provisions now to DACA.

JJ Glo 09-15-2017 01:10 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Yeah, e-verify and killing chain migration ain't happening... I could see maybe e-verify but not changing the sponsorship.

FarikoXpress 09-15-2017 01:11 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Why can't they just vote for DA with border security, where is the sympathy?

jaylove16 09-15-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

The sole Republican member of New Mexico's congressional delegation is urging House Speaker Paul Ryan to work across party lines to find a permanent solution for those immigrants who were brought to the country as children and are living here illegally.

U.S. Rep. Steve Pearce sent a letter to Ryan on Wednesday. He accused Congress of staying idle for decades while the executive branch imposed temporary fixes and a patchwork of policies to address immigration issues.

Pearce, who is running for governor of New Mexico, says Congress has a responsibility to find a fair and just solution.
Quote:

In my opinion, a comprehensive solution includes: 1) securing the border, 2) ending sanctuary cities, states and campuses, 3) ending birthright citizenship when neither parent is a U.S. citizen, 4) providing a path to citizenship for people (like these “dreamers”) who are personally innocent of breaking U.S. immigration law, 5) punishing criminal illegal aliens, and 6) massively simplifying the legal immigration process. Immigrants should always be welcome in the USA, but immigration must be legal, secure, and integrate new citizens into America’s culture. I look forward to working with my colleagues in the House to help solve the problem comprehensively, and hope the Senate will prove helpful.

-Warren Davidson
We all know Labrador is the worst when it comes to immigration. I have no idea how a former immigration lawyer and a Hispanic can be so hardline and cruel .

I couldn't find much about the fourth congressman Scott Perry's views on legalization or DACA.

eva02 09-15-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FarikoXpress (Post 639915)
Why can't they just vote for DA with border security, where is the sympathy?

Ryan doesn't want to lose his leadership. This is a NO deal... I hope they crash and burn.
Most Republixans don't want e-verify or RAISE act provision. The votes are not there.

jaylove16 09-15-2017 01:17 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nationalsfan (Post 639913)
not good that these dudes are getting involved.... everything is going to get thrown out of whack if they want to include e-verify and RAISE act provisions now to DACA.

Ryan has his own group working on it . I guess we will see how all this goes us the months goes on .

Bottom line is we are not going back in the shadows. Something positive will have to happen, it's like Pandora's box .

eva02 09-15-2017 01:18 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
It looks like all this might lead to Dems just attaching Dream Act to any must pass bill....
Ryan is giving the freedom caucus a seat at the table, knowing that their demands will not be accepted by Democrats.

isk84life 09-15-2017 01:18 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Lol, good luck getting that passed. The freedom caucus doesn't matter. They are less than 50 votes. Dream act and border security will be a centrist vote. It will exclude radicals on the right and left.

libertarian1776 09-15-2017 01:23 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
cant believe speaker ryan is letting this caucus control his chamber.. he is going full hastert rule on immigration legislation. just sad!

JohannBernoulli1667 09-15-2017 01:24 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
So now it is comprehensive... What happened to piecemeal?

Did I miss something? What is going on?

libertarian1776 09-15-2017 01:25 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
these republicans are hella low balling us with shit they want, and citizenship might not even be in for the trade.

ridiculous!

eva02 09-15-2017 01:33 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Fuck that shit!!! Use your leverage democrats!!!

fl_dreamer 09-15-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 639914)
Yeah, e-verify and killing chain migration ain't happening... I could see maybe e-verify but not changing the sponsorship.

Do we really think killing chain immigration is a bad thing? As long as you can sponsor your immediate family and spouse, do you think people not being able to sponsor their aunt or uncle or second cousin is a big deal?

jaylove16 09-15-2017 01:36 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 639925)
cant believe speaker ryan is letting this caucus control his chamber.. he is going full hastert rule on immigration legislation. just sad!

He said this

Quote:

I will say what I’ve been saying all along which is: We’re not going to bring legislation to the floor that does not have the support of President Trump,” Ryan said when asked about the deal Freedom Caucus members describe. “If we have the support of President Trump on … getting security and enforcement along with a solution (on DACA), that I believe, will get a majority of our members because our members support President Trump.”
As long as Trump supports a bill, then he will bring it up for a vote.

dreamer__13 09-15-2017 01:41 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Democrats won't support this bill so it's DOA.

Copper 09-15-2017 01:41 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Maybe this bill has a chance in the house, but no way it passes the Senate.

fl_dreamer 09-15-2017 01:42 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Do we really think killing chain immigration is a bad thing? As long as you can sponsor your immediate family and spouse, do you think people not being able to sponsor their aunt or uncle or the second cousin is a big deal?

eva02 09-15-2017 01:42 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 639938)
Maybe this bill has a chance in the house, but no way it passes the Senate.

Exactly, they are wasting tjme

eva02 09-15-2017 01:43 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 639939)
Do we really think killing chain immigration is a bad thing? As long as you can sponsor your immediate family and spouse, do you think people not being able to sponsor their aunt or uncle or the second cousin is a big deal?

Chain migration refers to all your relatives lol

JJ Glo 09-15-2017 01:44 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 639939)
Do we really think killing chain immigration is a bad thing? As long as you can sponsor your immediate family and spouse, do you think people not being able to sponsor their aunt or uncle or the second cousin is a big deal?

I wouldn't mind e-verify nor not being able to sponsor anyone, as long as we're legally in the country and allowed to work, travel outside, that's all I care about, but Dems would never vote for a bill like that. That's way more than simple border security. Something like e-verify and RAISE Act would need to be part of CIR, not DA.

bigdreamer2010 09-15-2017 01:46 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
I don't even think republicans believe in E-verify, and I don't see anything they make getting 60 votes in senate.

Swim19 09-15-2017 01:46 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 639939)
Do we really think killing chain immigration is a bad thing? As long as you can sponsor your immediate family and spouse, do you think people not being able to sponsor their aunt or uncle or the second cousin is a big deal?

You can't currently sponsor an aunt, uncle, or cousin. It's only immediate family you can sponsor (spouse, child, brother/sister, parent).

eva02 09-15-2017 01:48 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
The freedom caucus is the extremist fringe of the house.

Let's hope the discharge petition works and then it moves to the senate. We will be better off if this happens.

isk84life 09-15-2017 01:48 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 639942)
I wouldn't mind e-verify nor not being able to sponsor anyone, as long as we're legally in the country and allowed to work, travel outside, that's all I care about, but Dems would never vote for a bill like that. That's way more than simple border security. Something like e-verify and RAISE Act would need to be part of CIR, not DA.

That would be the dumbest deal in history. E-verify alone would solve the illegal immigration problem. E-verify would only be tradable for us and our parents.

Copper 09-15-2017 01:56 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
I don't see what the big deal with E-Verify is. Years ago business would be scared to even touch the program. Now, I see it everywhere I go, including small businesses. Some states have already made it mandatory. Might as well get something in return for it since the majority are already implementing the program.

fl_dreamer 09-15-2017 01:58 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 639945)
You can't currently sponsor an aunt, uncle, or cousin. It's only immediate family you can sponsor (spouse, child, brother/sister, parent).

Can they really change chain immigration for citizens or will this be for us where a restriction is put on our residency so that we cannot sponsor?

I think the latter is okay. I am not sure how they would get around with the former. They are plenty white europeans etc. who also get sponsored by their USC spouse.

Swim19 09-15-2017 02:00 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
@SerenaMarsh
Quote:

.@PressSec said #DACA principles and "specific priorities" in next week or so...mentioned massive border security, Raise Act, etc

libertarian1776 09-15-2017 02:00 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
this is BS, too much lowballing from these jabronis!

they want all these shit and we get "protections" not even a mention of legal status or citizenship!

nationalsfan 09-15-2017 02:02 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 639952)

sounds like we are back to square negative one million.... Raise is a no-go for Democrats it seems. If they allow it here, they will have to allow it in the future.

4look4rd 09-15-2017 02:02 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
That's good news. Freedom Caucus is backed by the Koch brothers which have came out in favor of immigration.

Koch brothers are actually not as evil as people portrait them to be. If they had their liking we would have open borders and no welfare, which frankly I wouldn't mind at all.

Demise 09-15-2017 02:02 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
After it hits the floor I want so many amendments to come that not a single part of the original bill shall remain.

jaylove16 09-15-2017 02:02 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 639952)

Good luck on the raise ACT. I think trump will sign whatever ends up on his desk though .

Copper 09-15-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Congress still as dysfunctional as always. No way will we get any type of relief if the wall or RAISE act is attached to any bill.

dreamer__13 09-15-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
They are not going to get the Raise Act because 1) they don't even have their entire party on board with it and 2) "DACA protections" sounds like a GOP Bridge Act.

RedBlueGreen 09-15-2017 02:06 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Both sides are going to have to compromise to the middle. My fear is that both sides will be unwilling.

dtrt09 09-15-2017 02:08 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
This is just stalling sabotage.

Now I understand why Rep. Gutierrez was pissed: Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi gave Trump $$ without actually having DreamAct legislation. DreamAct has 199 sponsors in the House and likely 60+ votes in the Senate.

Start attaching it to every must pass bill.

isk84life 09-15-2017 02:09 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Fuck this, shut down the government and dont give the GOP shit. Let's see who wins.

dtrt09 09-15-2017 02:10 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Dreamers have lived in the states since childhood; we don't have 'foreign' spouses and children to bring to this country. Stupidest, baseless and most egregious lie being told.

eva02 09-15-2017 02:12 PM

Re: Mark Meadows: Freedom Caucus is working 'very closely' with White House to write
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 639962)
This is just stalling sabotage.

Now I understand why Rep. Gutierrez was pissed: Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi gave Trump $$ without actually having DreamAct legislation. DreamAct has 199 sponsors in the House and likely 60+ votes in the Senate.

Start attaching it to every must pass bill.

They only did that as a political move for midterms. They want to show us just how incompetent congress is. They've seeded to border security, and racist ass republicans want more. This is all one big political show, they know that when push comes to shove in December, a clean bill is guaranteed.


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