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bigdreamer2010 09-26-2017 06:00 PM

Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fix
 
We'll see what happens but a lot are probably DOA. Stephen Miller is still in the white house. He needs to go.

Quote:

The White House is expected to ask Congress to approve a Republican wish list of immigration policies as part of a deal to protect hundreds of thousands of young people brought into the country illegally as children, known as Dreamers, according to a preliminary document obtained by McClatchy.

Talking points written by the president’s Domestic Policy Council and given to some members of the conservative Freedom Caucus on Capitol Hill include a dozen proposals grouped into three broad areas — border security, interior enforcement and merit-based immigration.

The proposals run afoul of the tentative agreement Trump discussed with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi at a Sept. 13 dinner at the White House, according to a Democratic staffer on the Hill who asked for anonymity to discuss a preliminary proposal.

“In fact, there is bipartisan opposition to many of them,” the Democratic staffer said.


The plan was designed by Stephen Miller, Trump’s senior policy adviser who is responsible for some of his most contentious policies, including writing a ban on travel to the United States from some Muslim-majority countries, and does not reflect the views of Trump or many of his other top aides, according to a multiple people familiar with situation.


“The president himself said he doesn’t want to ‘throw out good, educated and accomplished young people’ and wants a Dream Act paired with increased border security, but Stephen Miller's agenda to try to attach 50 percent cuts to legal immigration and other provisions completely undermines the president's desire and chances for any deal,” said a political operative who works closely with congressional Republicans.

The White House document includes several proposals already introduced in standalone bills — eliminating protections for unaccompanied children who are in the country illegally; restricting eligibility for asylum, humanitarian parole and abused or abandoned foreign children; raising fees for visas; reducing legal immigration by placing people with certain skills at the front of the line; hiring thousands more immigration officers, prosecutors and judges; and implementing E-verify, an online system that allows businesses to check immigration status. In some cases, the talking points cited the specific bill numbers.

The document was written after a months-long internal battle at the White House in which some of Trump’s top aides have been pushing him to protect Dreamers and use the issue as a bargaining chip for a larger immigration deal.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Monday that the administration plans to release a list of immigration proposals in “the coming days.”

“We will be putting out specific principles that the White House supports and would like to see done legislatively,” she said.

On Monday, House Democrats began trying to force a floor vote on a bill to protect Dreamers without prior approval of Republican leaders.

Republicans will need the support of some Democrats to pass a bill that protects the nearly 800,000 people enrolled in a Obama-era program that allows those brought into the country illegally as children to receive temporary, renewable work permits.

The administration announced in early September it will shut down the program — Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals or DACA — after a six-month delay to give Congress time to pass a legislative fix.

Trump, Pelosi and Schumer formed the outline of an agreement to the annoyance of many Republicans on Capitol Hill who were shut out of the discussion. House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell were not invited to dinner.

Schumer and Pelosi immediately announced in a joint statement that they struck a preliminary agreement with Trump, but no final deal.

“We agreed that the president would support enshrining DACA protections into law, and encourage the House and Senate to act,” they said. “What remains to be negotiated are the details of border security, with a mutual goal of finalizing all details as soon as possible.”

Even with just two pieces of the deal, many questions remain unanswered: Will the bill relate to just the 800,000 DACA recipients or the estimated 2 to 3 million Dreamers? Would people be given work permits or green cards with a path to citizenship? How much money will be spent on border enforcement? What kind of security would be provided?

The Democrats said they would work out a border security package that include drones, air support, sensor equipment and road rebuilding, but not a wall.


Trump, who pledged to build a wall on the southern border during a campaign largely built around immigration, initially insisted they made no deal but later acknowledged that one was made and that the “wall will come later.”

A House Democratic leadership aide said Tuesday that the talking points document will not go anywhere. “This draft is a complete nonstarter,” the aide said. “Not a serious proposal. Does not reflect the Pelosi/Schumer agreement with the President whatsoever.”

Rep. Mark Meadows, a Republican from North Carolina who chairs the Freedom caucus, said Tuesday he had not seen the document.

But the proposal closely mirrors what several groups have been pushing the administration to do for months.

Robert Law, government relations director for Federation for American Immigration Reform, said his group sent the White House recommendations last week that included e-verify, border enforcement, biometric entry-exit screening system and interior enforcement.

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies who has been pushing similar proposals for years, said any deal must include other provisions beyond border security. “Anything short of that would suggest a lack of success,” he said.

Lesley Clark and William Douglas contributed.

Source: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...175484806.html

JJ Glo 09-26-2017 06:05 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
I see Kelly was unable to keep Squidward away from Trump.

ceaguila 09-26-2017 06:07 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
NEW plan was designed by Stephen Miller, Trump’s senior policy adviser, and does not reflect the views of president, other other top aides

Via @anitakumar01 Well if it doesn’t reflect their views they can easily say it BS

catportal 09-26-2017 06:09 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Who unlocked Stephen from the basement?

dreamer__13 09-26-2017 06:14 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Man fuck that dirty Squiward looking bitch.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:16 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
So it is basically DA + Raise (intact sponsorship)

This deal can be done

VJB2 09-26-2017 06:16 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
He's trying too hard to insert himself where he'll only end up looking like a severely racist, unattractive, irrelevant, sad excuse for a human in the end.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:17 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 643709)
So it is basically DA + Raise (intact sponsorship)

This deal can be done

Better than cucked Success Act

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:18 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 643711)
Better than cucked Success Act

I mean Suckass Act

ceaguila 09-26-2017 06:19 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Grassley says Senate Judiciary to hold hearing on Trump's decision to end DACA next Tuesday; expect that one to be rowdy Via @mkraju

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:20 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 643714)
Grassley says Senate Judiciary to hold hearing on Trump's decision to end DACA next Tuesday; expect that one to be rowdy Via @mkraju

Finally! It is moving ahead

RAYADO1 09-26-2017 06:21 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Lets

Do

This

bigdreamer2010 09-26-2017 06:21 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 643709)
So it is basically DA + Raise (intact sponsorship)

This deal can be done

Yeah right

JJ Glo 09-26-2017 06:22 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Next Tuesday...slow asses

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:22 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
I have been saying the ultimate deal is DA + Raise

Since July

Got banned for that

Now see what is happening

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:23 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 643717)
Yeah right

Then say adios to DA.... forever

bigdreamer2010 09-26-2017 06:24 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 643719)
I have been saying the ultimate deal is DA + Raise

Since July

Got banned for that

Now see what is happening

There won't be DA for the dream act unless the DA includes the entire 12 million population. Also, Republicans don't even want the Raise Act.

legodego 09-26-2017 06:28 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Those who are rooting for DA + RAISE act, do you understand how terrible RAISE act is?

SEPT 06 09-26-2017 06:31 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Even Republicans oppose RAISE act, so that's not gonna happen.
BTW this report just came out, is that a just an a talking point or it's final, that this what White House wants?

spolem 09-26-2017 06:31 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
DA + RAISE act but NO ban on parent petitions.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:31 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 643721)
There won't be DA for the dream act unless the DA includes the entire 12 million population. Also, Republicans don't even want the Raise Act.

DA is short for Dream Act

smh!

libertarian1776 09-26-2017 06:32 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
i believe its a leak that policy adviser stephen miller wrote and does not reflect the POTUS current views.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEPT 06 (Post 643724)
Even Republicans oppose RAISE act, so that's not gonna happen.
BTW this report just came out, is that a just an a talking point or it's final, that this what White House wants?


spolem 09-26-2017 06:35 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Its good that miller wrote the proposals. Now Trump can go half way on that and still look good to his base. Far right knows miller is extreme.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:39 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spolem (Post 643728)
Its good that miller wrote the proposals. Now Trump can go half way on that and still look good to his base. Far right knows miller is extreme.

this.

it is all looking very good, folks

beware of uwd derailment

dado123 09-26-2017 06:40 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
freaking politics man, too many cooks in the kitchen, hopefully, they can come to a consensus on something.

spolem 09-26-2017 06:43 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 643729)
this.

it is all looking very good, folks

beware of uwd derailment

Apparently one cannot express opinions in this forum without being called UWD

FU sir, FU

gio957 09-26-2017 06:44 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
"In the next coming days" feels like they've been saying that for weeks.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 06:57 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spolem (Post 643731)
Apparently one cannot express opinions in this forum without being called UWD

FU sir, FU

wasnt referring to you as uwd

smh

Smooth 09-26-2017 07:10 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Smooth v. Miller at the MGM Grand.

desice 09-26-2017 07:18 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
RAISE is terrible. More like RAZE act.

dtrt09 09-26-2017 07:40 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi need to make DreamAct happen stat.

Dean DeChiaro on Twitter: "President Trump didn't commit to backing the #DreamAct in meeting with Schumer/Pelosi, Marc Short told me today. ($) https://t.co/RqCwjmjcBm"
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeanDeChi...84847764168704

JohannBernoulli1667 09-26-2017 07:53 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 643744)
Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi need to make DreamAct happen stat.

Dean DeChiaro on Twitter: "President Trump didn't commit to backing the #DreamAct in meeting with Schumer/Pelosi, Marc Short told me today. ($) https://t.co/RqCwjmjcBm"
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeanDeChi...84847764168704

Well that fucking sucks...

isk84life 09-26-2017 08:03 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 643744)
Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi need to make DreamAct happen stat.

Dean DeChiaro on Twitter: "President Trump didn't commit to backing the #DreamAct in meeting with Schumer/Pelosi, Marc Short told me today. ($) https://t.co/RqCwjmjcBm"
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeanDeChi...84847764168704

We are fucked. We will get the Bridge act. And that's only because the GOP would not want to risk us getting deported and posting ICE raid videos on social media.

desice 09-26-2017 08:09 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 643749)
We are fucked. We will get the Bridge act. And that's only because the GOP would not want to risk us getting deported and posting ICE raid videos on social media.

Everyone chill. We have as much turbulence on these boards as the news cycle. Trump also said that he'd end on DACA on day 1. Unrelated things can quickly change stuff. For example, if he constantly is not getting any wins or bills passed, he's gonna be more open to other provisions. Besides, I heard that contractors started building 8 different prototype walls in San Diego. The more he feels like his vision is going to come a realization, the more open he will be to DA or something more reasonable.

ECW 09-26-2017 08:10 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 643749)
We are fucked. We will get the Bridge act. And that's only because the GOP would not want to risk us getting deported and posting ICE raid videos on social media.


Its really starting to look like it will be the BRIDGE Act at the last minute to save.

dtrt09 09-26-2017 08:11 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 643749)
We are fucked. We will get the Bridge act. And that's only because the GOP would not want to risk us getting deported and posting ICE raid videos on social media.

No, we are not.
Put pressure right back where it was before this supposed arrangement. This meeting removed some of the urgency to pass the DreamAct because we trust what we were told: DreamAct will be atrached to must pass bills and the president supports it.

If someone is lying, is it the Dems, the president, the Reps, this guy Short?

SurfyB 09-26-2017 08:23 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Wtf is wrong with this administration, we go from having something almost done, to not having shit at least 4 times a week every godamn week.. I'm just hoping nothing happens with NK or we are fucked.

isk84life 09-26-2017 08:38 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Speaking of the devil, just saw 12-15 EROS ICE agents walking out of an appartment complex looking disappointed after a failed raid. Had never seen them in broad daylight here in SF.

JohannBernoulli1667 09-26-2017 09:07 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 643759)
Speaking of the devil, just saw 12-15 EROS ICE agents walking out of an appartment complex looking disappointed after a failed raid. Had never seen them in broad daylight here in SF.

It is quite normal to see that, living near a border that is seen everyday.

To be honest, these raids are very ineffective and inefficient.

Got_Daca 09-26-2017 09:14 PM

Re: Document lists immigration proposals White House wants in exchange for Dreamer fi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 643744)
Sen. Schumer and Rep. Pelosi need to make DreamAct happen stat.

Dean DeChiaro on Twitter: "President Trump didn't commit to backing the #DreamAct in meeting with Schumer/Pelosi, Marc Short told me today. ($) https://t.co/RqCwjmjcBm"
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeanDeChi...84847764168704

here comes dap panic

trump not supporting clean DA

he will support DA + border security


duh!


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