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glacier1985 10-05-2017 09:14 PM

Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGQc-tgPXLE

I'm really not following right now. First she said that without a comprise it wouldn't be possible, but now she wants a clean dream act ?

You can fast forward to 1:53

libertarian1776 10-05-2017 09:16 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
she's saying it to appease the base.

she can attach a "clean" dream act to any must pass legislation in December if you look at it in a diff way.

glacier1985 10-05-2017 09:22 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 645776)
she's saying it to appease the base.

she can attach a "clean" dream act to any must pass legislation in December if you look at it in a diff way.


Instead, she should have just said without any comprise in a Republican controlled congress passing any slightly pro-immigration legislation wouldn't be possible. Why people are having a tough time understanding this point, this is beyond me.

desice 10-05-2017 09:25 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
This was already posted:

https://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=78807

libertarian1776 10-05-2017 09:26 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
we all here know that, but the far-left doesnt understand that though. they want citizenship for all. 11 million or bust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier1985 (Post 645777)
Instead, she should have just said without any comprise in a Republican controlled congress passing any slightly pro-immigration legislation wouldn't be possible. Why people are having a tough time understanding this point, this is beyond me.


eva02 10-05-2017 09:49 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 645779)
we all here know that, but the far-left doesnt understand that though. they want citizenship for all. 11 million or bust.

It's not even the far left, it's pipe dream Bernie latinx millenials

PhelonOne87 10-05-2017 10:00 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
These idiots are getting under my skin how they make themselves believe a Clean Dream Act will even make it pass congress and if it did Trump would Veto it with his eyes closed ..... smh

dtrt09 10-05-2017 10:34 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
A clean DreamAct means just that: The DreamAct.

Its goal is to provide childhood arrivals the opportunity to earn permanent status. Why is that not reasonable according to all of you complaining?

BestBefore1984 10-05-2017 10:38 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
I just want a dream act without boison bills.

Lambo Mercy 10-05-2017 10:40 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
I just don't wanna get deported

JayR9 10-05-2017 11:20 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
It's a negotiation tactic. They came out extreme demands on the republican side. So you move in the other direction to make them feel like coming to the middle they actually gain/won in some form.

IamAman 10-05-2017 11:25 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier1985 (Post 645775)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGQc-tgPXLE

I'm really not following right now. First she said that without a comprise it wouldn't be possible, but now she wants a clean dream act ?

You can fast forward to 1:53

Why can't you have a clean Dream Act and still compromise? You can get a clean Dream Act and still give in to border security, E-Verify or whatever else Republicans want and still include older Dreamers.

IamAman 10-05-2017 11:27 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 645779)
we all here know that, but the far-left doesnt understand that though. they want citizenship for all. 11 million or bust.

No... There is a lot of gray area you're not mentioning. The choice isn't simply either a straight DACA in law form all 11 million people get green cards. The Dream Act is the best compromise in itself.

PhelonOne87 10-05-2017 11:35 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 645805)
Why can't you have a clean Dream Act and still compromise? You can get a clean Dream Act and still give in to border security, E-Verify or whatever else Republicans want and still include older Dreamers.

A dream act with attachments you have provided is technically not a clean Dream Act some people want the so called "clean dream act " basically stand alone nothing attached . Which will never get to the presidents desk . I will be shocked if it does and passes that would be a miracle .

libertarian1776 10-05-2017 11:44 PM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
no, they are not trading 800k dreamers (aged out dreamers) + border security (more deportations)

for them its all 11million or bust, there is no compromise for these folks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 645806)
No... There is a lot of gray area you're not mentioning. The choice isn't simply either a straight DACA in law form all 11 million people get green cards. The Dream Act is the best compromise in itself.


Rogue414 10-06-2017 02:49 AM

Re: Nancy Pelosi wants a clean Dream Act
 
I didn’t pass in 2010 when Democrats has all chambers of Congress. Don’t putt too much faith in democrats like any other politician, all they want is to please their base and get re-elected even if it means not passing any form of legislation.


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