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ayran123 10-11-2017 11:46 PM

Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
So basically trump wants the wall -__-
"But if we're going to do something, we have to get something in return. And what I want is tremendous border regulation, I want the wall, and we're going to get other things. And we're going to see if we can work something out."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...e-daca-problem

"President Trump said Wednesday that it would be “wonderful” for Congress to come up with a solution to protect young immigrants protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
But Trump reiterated that any deal would have to include approval for a border wall with Mexico and tighter border restrictions — conditions Democrats have called a non-starter for negotiations.
Trump, in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, said he has wrestled with the human element involved in deciding the fates of the estimated 800,000 young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children, during his back-and-forth on the issue the last few weeks.

“A lot of these people are in the military, they have jobs, they have this, that - it's a very - I fully understand it,” Trump said. “But if we're going to do something, we have to get something in return. And what I want is tremendous border regulation, I want the wall, and we're going to get other things. And we're going to see if we can work something out. Now, whether or not we do, I don't know. But it would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem.”

Trump infuriated the left last month when he announced he would phase-out the Obama-era program.
He then infuriated his base by meeting with Democratic leaders Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who promptly announced they were close to a deal that might pave the way for so-called “Dreamers” to stay.

But last week Trump dashed the hopes of liberals, releasing a set of immigration principles he wants to achieve that many Democrats rejected out of hand, raising questions about whether Congress could achieve a bipartisan solution that would protect DACA recipients.
Among the requirements is a border wall. Trump on Wednesday said he has five prototypes for the wall and “they’re looking good.”

"We need it not only for people, but we need it for the drugs that are pouring into our country," Trump said.
"The wall has to be built. It has to be built. A properly built, constructed, designed wall, high, not a little fence like they'd have."
Trump also said there would be “no amnesty” for those in the country illegally, seeming to cut off a potential pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients. He also pledged to end “chain migration,” whereby those related to people who have immigrated legally to the country sponsor their family members for passage to the U.S.
Still, Trump expressed optimism that even some Republicans would back a deal protecting DACA recipients.

“By the way, even my most conservative, hard-line friends in the Republican Party would really like to be able to solve 800,000 people - and honestly these people went through a lot because most of them went through our system,” Trump said."

Afridi786 10-11-2017 11:54 PM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
This guy just doesn't want to accomplish anything the majority of Americans want, his only purpose is to piss off everyone.

desice 10-11-2017 11:56 PM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
this dude's mind is like schroedinger's cat. i swear he must be made up of two different people.

g33k 10-11-2017 11:59 PM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by desice (Post 646838)
this dude's mind is like schroedinger's cat. i swear he must be made up of two different people.

He is unfit to hold such position. Every country sees the USA as a joke.

libertarian1776 10-12-2017 12:01 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
“A lot of these people are in the military, they have jobs, they have this, that - it's a very - I fully understand it,” Trump said. “But if we're going to do something, we have to get something in return. And what I want is tremendous border regulation, I want the wall, and we're going to get other things. And we're going to see if we can work something out. Now, whether or not we do, I don't know. But it would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem.”

srsly, does this guy have brain damage?

Afridi786 10-12-2017 12:06 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
He's going to insist on his stupid wall, and when that doesn't work, he'll blame republicans and democrats. He does nothing but have outrageous demands then deflects all the blame when he doesn't get his way, that's his MO.

Dres2011 10-12-2017 12:06 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
It would be wonderful, now pass that shit motherfuckers.

Smooth 10-12-2017 12:06 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I prefer that we get status in exchange for funding that is strictly used for the wall instead of giving them everything else (e.g. more agents and e-verify etc.).

bad.bunny 10-12-2017 12:09 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I thought everyone knew that in order to pass DA or a legislative solution there needs to be things like a border wall, increased enforcement, etc attached to it as a compromise. Guy wants a deal done.

Quote:

Trump also said there would be “no amnesty” for those in the country illegally, seeming to cut off a potential pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients. He also pledged to end “chain migration,
Honestly, not suprised at all. At most it will be a conditional green card or permanent EAD.

Alfredo93 10-12-2017 12:10 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
It's like nobody wants to solve our situation. We are being held at gunpoint by both parties essentially. The Democrats have done so much for us, I respect that, but man they actually need to compromise with Trump. Too bad, they lost 2016. Get over it and fund border security before he demands more outrages things.

iksandr 10-12-2017 12:20 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Yeah, I'm fine giving him the wall. That won't really do much aside from giving him a victory to deliver for his base.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-12-2017 12:23 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Democrats will never give him the wall. The wall is a symbol more than a physical object. Didn't trump said early he was okay with a da ( or a solution ) and no wall?

ceaguila 10-12-2017 12:42 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
"Border wall battle could spark a government shutdown"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bo...rticle/2637249

JayR9 10-12-2017 02:27 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 646848)
Democrats will never give him the wall. The wall is a symbol more than a physical object. Didn't trump said early he was okay with a da ( or a solution ) and no wall?

He did. He said the wall was going to be after DACA fix. Asshole backtracked...just have to force him to sign

Swim19 10-12-2017 08:44 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 646851)
He did. He said the wall was going to be after DACA fix. Asshole backtracked...just have to force him to sign

This also means he can can change his mind again, and not insist on the wall. He's all over the place with every thing. He's a terrible leader.

JJ Glo 10-12-2017 08:47 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Once again, changing his mind, you can't trust anything he says. If a compromise is reached with DA+Border Security and is passed, I'm sure he will sign it.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-12-2017 08:48 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 646857)
This also means he can can change his mind again, and not insist on the wall. He's all over the place with every thing. He's a terrible leader.

And people here have his image as an avatar wow

Smooth 10-12-2017 08:59 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
A compromise will be the only way.

Smooth 10-12-2017 09:06 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 646857)
This also means he can can change his mind again, and not insist on the wall. He's all over the place with every thing. He's a terrible leader.

Yeah, he is terrible a leader just like the ones who say they prefer to end up with nothing and overlook what that will entail for 800k. In the process, they ask for money and attack and try to silence the people who dissent. For some of these limmigrant leaders, it is easy to end up with nothing because they qualify for AOS through marriage or will have a job through UWD, where the money will keep coming in to cover their bills. Do these leaders take the time to meet and talk to dreamers who are financial pillars of their families and cannot afford to end up with nothing? No. They ignore you. They attack you without even acknowledging the consequences of ending up with nothing.


As for my avatar, I keep it to trigger people like the ones mentioned above. It's easy for them to lobby for "nothing" when they either have a way out or will not suffer as much with "nothing." So, it's easy to fear monger and attack even when their fears is all speculative. I have not seen a bill with clauses that explicitly state, "Dreamers will trade in their parents for legalization."

A compromise is the only way.

eva02 10-12-2017 09:08 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 646850)
"Border wall battle could spark a government shutdown"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bo...rticle/2637249

Idiots, most republicans in Congress don’t even want the wall

Swim19 10-12-2017 09:13 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 646864)
Idiots, most republicans in Congress don’t even want the wall

The only reason Trump wants the wall is it was an effective chant ('build the wall') during his run for presidency and he needs a legislative win.

Smooth 10-12-2017 09:16 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I prefer a static freaking object than all of the other crap they want. At least a wall will not present a "threat" to the families here.

There are already prototypes of wall being placed in SD border. Just as fyi

Got_Daca 10-12-2017 09:24 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 646867)
I prefer a static freaking object than all of the other crap they want. At least a wall will not present a "threat" to the families here.

There are already prototypes of wall being placed in SD border. Just as fyi

Exactly

Give them their stupid medieval wall

Why are people so afraid of bunch of bricks?

We are so close to our Dream realization

Got_Daca 10-12-2017 09:25 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 646865)
The only reason Trump wants the wall is it was an effective chant ('build the wall') during his run for presidency and he needs a legislative win.

Why not just give them their fake win on the wall?

The real winners will be us Dreamers

Swim19 10-12-2017 09:37 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 646869)
Why not just give them their fake win on the wall?

The real winners will be us Dreamers

It can easily be argued that it is a waste of taxpayer dollars and it will not make us any safer. I don't really care one way or the other on a wall compromise, but my opinion isn't what matters as I'm not in Congress.

fl_dreamer 10-12-2017 09:43 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I prefer the wall over everify! Give him the stupid wall!! It means NOTHING!!

US spends money on way more stupid things.

ECW 10-12-2017 10:18 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I don’t see what the issue with the wall is, 26 Dems in the senate vote for
the Secure Fence Act back in 2006. 64 Dems in the house.

RAYADO1 10-12-2017 10:20 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
There’s already a wall between Mexico and USA.

He just want to expand it haha

I live in Eagle Pass...

Smooth 10-12-2017 10:55 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Give him the wall. It'll be another reason for people to mobilize and vote for someone else in the next election. Will Democrats be just as culpable as Trump? Slightly? Maybe not at all. We are being held hostage over a stupid wall that does not present a danger to non dreamers in the US. Give him the stupid damn wall. I live in a house surrounded by walls. I see walls everywhere I go. Es un maldito muro.

carnivore 10-12-2017 10:55 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
I don't blame Trump. I want a wall as well.

Smooth 10-12-2017 10:58 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
So what if the stupid wall is costly? We want legalization and protect our parents right? Are we going to complain about legalization fees later on too? Why are we so damn picky? Oh wait..because it's an assshole that is going to ratify relief. Who cares. He won. Get over it. Give him the damn wall. Why are we even complaining about this.

Gocchin Sama 10-12-2017 11:03 AM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
Sooo... whatever happened to Mexico paying for the wall? ��

Kawi-ZX6R 10-12-2017 12:13 PM

Re: Trump: ‘It would be wonderful to solve the DACA problem’
 
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Originally Posted by Gocchin Sama (Post 646883)
Sooo... whatever happened to Mexico paying for the wall? ��

Do people actually believe that bs? Trump is a show man and he had to put up a show to get people behind him. He’s living in a fantasy where he thinks everything has to go his way. He would of been a successful dictator.


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