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Swim19 01-08-2018 08:27 PM
DACA being discussed in Senate - LIVE
 
Watch here:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?439367...minations&live

Sen. Grassley speaking right now...oh boy he wants BRIDGE

LiveYourLife 01-08-2018 08:30 PM
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Did chuck Grassley just say that the bridge act was fair?... SMH

Swim19 01-08-2018 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveYourLife (Post 666610)
Did chuck Grassley just say that the bridge act was fair?... SMH
I think he's mad no one is taking his bill seriously.

cooltalker 01-08-2018 08:33 PM
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At this point, just pass a clean bridge act with no concessions to any Republican demands. With
the outrageous Republican demands, it's going to be close to impossible to pass anything else.

Swim19 01-08-2018 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cooltalker (Post 666612)
At this point, just pass a clean bridge act with no concessions to any Republican demands. With
the outrageous Republican demands, it's going to be close to impossible to pass anything else.
I don't see a clean BRIDGE Act passing either.

ECW 01-08-2018 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666614)
I don't see a clean BRIDGE Act passing either.
A renewable BRIDGE Act?

Swim19 01-08-2018 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 666616)
A renewable BRIDGE Act?
Do you see the GOP allowing renewable BRIDGE without border security/wall? I do not. I think it's more likely DEMs & GOP will let us expire. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Tillis speaking now...hopefully what he says is more reasonable than Grassley. Grassley wants secure act for bridge act.

Copper 01-08-2018 08:43 PM
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What's scary about some GOP members is that they want border security, interior enforcement plus the kitchen sink all in exchange for the BRIDGE act. That right there is a non-starter.

2Face 01-08-2018 08:44 PM
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Anything short of legalization is bullshit. Grassley is DISAPPOINTING!

Swim19 01-08-2018 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 666620)
What's scary about some GOP members is that they want border security, interior enforcement plus the kitchen sink all in exchange for the BRIDGE act. That right there is a non-starter.
Exactly...yet that's exactly what Grassley just whined about on the Senate Floor and called it a 'good faith' effort.

Smooth 01-08-2018 08:46 PM
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Democrats have to develop a spine plain and simple.

2Face 01-08-2018 08:53 PM
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Tillis - “We have to deliver.” It seems like he is also for Bridge Act. Seems like an alright guy...refers to us as the “DACA population” lol

Swim19 01-08-2018 08:54 PM
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Ugh Cotton now speaking...and here comes chain migration argument

I need Durbin to speak to balance this all out.

2Face 01-08-2018 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666629)
Ugh Cotton now speaking...and here comes chain migration argument

I need Durbin to speak to balance this all out.
He just mentioned for a “permanent solution” there needs to be a “permanent concession.” Interesting.

NotADreamerPerSe 01-08-2018 09:05 PM
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They can get rid of DV lottery permanently then

isk84life 01-08-2018 09:06 PM
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At least Cotton wants us to become citizens lol

ceaguila 01-08-2018 09:07 PM
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Little Marco nowhere to be found

DACAuser 01-08-2018 09:07 PM
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chain migration really got to go. it really hurt low skill american workers.

ayran123 01-08-2018 09:09 PM
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Little Marcoooooo! lol

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 666636)
Little Marco nowhere to be found

fl_dreamer 01-08-2018 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DACAuser (Post 666637)
chain migration really got to go. it really hurt low skill american workers.
Says an aged out dreamer..GTFO

CUSenior 01-08-2018 09:12 PM
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Why does chain migration have to be addressed now? They could bar DACA recipients from sponsoring as permanent residents. With the Dream Act, they would have five years to end chain migration in exchange for providing some sort of legal status to the rest of the 11 million (since deporting them is just impractical). I feel like that's what Flake and other moderate Republicans would get behind.

beingoflight 01-08-2018 09:12 PM
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F.U.C.K the bridge act.

Anybody that considers that bullsht bill is beyond idiotic.

Permanently fix it all instead of just passing some bullsht FFS!!

fukin liberals i hope they dont hold the votes.

CUSenior 01-08-2018 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 666641)
F.U.C.K the bridge act.

Anybody that considers that bullsht bill is beyond idiotic.

Permanently fix it all instead of just passing some bullsht FFS!!

fukin liberals i hope they dont hold the votes.

Thank you. This is exactly how I feel.

Michcio07 01-08-2018 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 666641)
F.U.C.K the bridge act.

Anybody that considers that bullsht bill is beyond idiotic.

Permanently fix it all instead of just passing some bullsht FFS!!

fukin liberals i hope they dont hold the votes.
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 666644)
Thank you. This is exactly how I feel.
Amen!

Copper 01-08-2018 09:28 PM
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I think we all get it. The BRIDGE act is not what we want or what we strive for. However, the BRIDGE act is better than nothing. The BRIDGE act will at least allow you to drive and to keep on with your studies or work at that job you so hard studied for.

I understand it still gives us uncertainty once it expires, but is better than nothing and who knows what will happen between then. People can say I'm moving to Canada, but if it was really that easy, why haven't you done it? Do people really think is that simple to immigrate to Canada?

I'm sorry but I doubt Canada will welcome every one with open arms.

Michcio07 01-08-2018 09:34 PM
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Nothing is better than Bridge Act.

Copper 01-08-2018 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 666655)
Nothing is better than Bridge Act.
Then start packing because not everyone shares the same opinion as you and for those who do agree with you, then they should follow your steps and start packing as well. Makes no difference for you to be in this country if you prefer nothing over something when it comes to immigration. It's just that simple my friend.

Afridi786 01-08-2018 09:35 PM
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I'll take Bridge Act happily.

CUSenior 01-08-2018 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 666652)
I think we all get it. The BRIDGE act is not what we want or what we strive for. However, the BRIDGE act is better than nothing. The BRIDGE act will at least allow you to drive and to keep on with your studies or work at that job you so hard studied for.

I understand it still gives us uncertainty once it expires, but is better than nothing and who knows what will happen between then. People can say I'm moving to Canada, but if it was really that easy, why haven't you done it? Do people really think is that simple to immigrate to Canada?

I'm sorry but I doubt Canada will welcome every one with open arms.
If I see anyone advocating for the Bridge Act, I will express my vehement opposition to it. I don't see it as any bether than nothing. At least with nothing, you know for sure that you need to invest in a life somewhere else.

Everyone here seems to have a decent grasp of English and a lot of people have college degrees and work experience. I'm pretty sure that's sufficient to qualify under the point system for permanent residency in Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong.

TimeRunningOut18 01-08-2018 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DACAuser (Post 666637)
chain migration really got to go. it really hurt low skill american workers.
Aren't you also hurting american workers assuming you too are illegal daca recipient? shouldn't you be deported first?

Copper 01-08-2018 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 666658)
If I see anyone advocating for the Bridge Act, I will express my vehement opposition to it. I don't see it as any bether than nothing. At least with nothing, you know for sure that you need to invest in a life somewhere else.

Everyone here seems to have a decent grasp of English and a lot of people have college degrees and work experience. I'm pretty sure that's sufficient to qualify under the point system for permanent residency in Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Life is about choices, if you feel like what's on the table is just not good enough for you, then start planning your exit my friend. No one is forcing you to stay here.

CUSenior 01-08-2018 09:43 PM
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Not to mention that chain migration doesn't just affect undocumented immigrants. Ending chain migration would prevent families from being unified. There are plenty of us citizens who want to be able to live with their elderly parents and wouldn't be able to. Especially since other visas (even non immigrant ones) are really hard to get.

Swim19 01-08-2018 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 666658)
If I see anyone advocating for the Bridge Act, I will express my vehement opposition to it. I don't see it as any bether than nothing. At least with nothing, you know for sure that you need to invest in a life somewhere else.

Everyone here seems to have a decent grasp of English and a lot of people have college degrees and work experience. I'm pretty sure that's sufficient to qualify under the point system for permanent residency in Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, BRIDGE Act would still put us in limbo, and if that's unacceptable at the least it would give people time to make plans to exit the country. Remember there's people expiring in March! Even if you qualify under the point system and have enought points to be invited the process takes time.

CUSenior 01-08-2018 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 666660)
Life is about choices, if you feel like what's on the table is just not good enough for you, then start planning your exit my friend. No one is forcing you to stay here.
Well yeah. I understand that. Which is why if there isn't a permanent solution, I am leaving after I graduate in May (if I'm alive by then).

Michcio07 01-08-2018 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666662)
Yes, BRIDGE Act would still put us in limbo, and if that's unacceptable at the least it would give people time to make plans to exit the country. Remember there's people expiring in March! Even if you qualify under the point system and have enought points to be invited the process takes time.
Don’t you think the same logic will come in play in 3 years? People will get their permit forget about snot until they are about to expire and do the same shit over again. Bridge Act is just a false hope of something happening.

fl_dreamer 01-08-2018 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 666663)
Well yeah. I understand that. Which is why if there isn't a permanent solution, I am leaving after I graduate in May (if I'm alive by then).
Please don't make indirect suicide comments. Thats not funny or needed. There is a life outside of US. Grow a pair!

Copper 01-08-2018 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 666663)
Well yeah. I understand that. Which is why if there isn't a permanent solution, I am leaving after I graduate in May (if I'm alive by then).
You'll be alive man let's stay positive. Good luck with your journey and hope it all ends well for you and everyone else trying to survive this crazy rollercoaster.

Swim19 01-08-2018 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 666664)
Don’t you think the same logic will come in play in 3 years? People will get their permit forget about snot until they are about to expire and do the same shit over again. Bridge Act is just a false hope of something happening.
Everyone is in a different place in their lives. Some are in the middle of their studies, so waiting three years to get their degree before making any decision makes sense. Some are waiting on a family petition. Some might hope a relationship that is new now might turn into marriage in three years. And some people will never leave unless deported. Who knows what can happen? It might be a false hope. It might not be. This is a very individualized decision. I was two months away from leaving to the UK when DACA was announced because I believed nothing would happen.

PhelonOne87 01-08-2018 09:55 PM
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Wrong post lmao

Copper 01-08-2018 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PhelonOne87 (Post 666669)
You guys are all idiots with your fucken Bridge Act you guys are basically saying Dems will allow the Wall for a fucken Bridge act!!!!!! GTFO or that Dems are going to leave us in the dust and still vote for the spending bill you guys are some straight negetive minded sheep !!! Keep your fucken heads up and just wait and see what happens one day it’s good and next day bad we won’t know until something hits the floor and gets votes as for now keep it together people !!!!! Jesus Christ
Who's saying that?


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