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Elmexicano 01-16-2018 06:41 PM

Summary of Senate deal
 
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VJB2 01-16-2018 06:43 PM

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What the hell else do they want?

Afridi786 01-16-2018 06:45 PM

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That seems really reasonable...wtf is Trump throwing a tantrum over? Ask for more money, done deal, wtf.

catportal 01-16-2018 06:46 PM

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Not enough money, and Trump wants LESS legal immigration (which shouldn't even be part of this).

Cyber1964 01-16-2018 06:46 PM

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are you kidding? less than 3 billion for border security? why are they even trying? smh

Smooth 01-16-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 671986)
That seems really reasonable...wtf is Trump throwing a tantrum over? Ask for more money, done deal, wtf.

I think that was Trump's main objection. Trump wants 8 billion for wall correct?

1.5 is a low ball bro.

Swim19 01-16-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 671986)
That seems really reasonable...wtf is Trump throwing a tantrum over? Ask for more money, done deal, wtf.

That's what I've been saying. It's very reasonable.

Afridi786 01-16-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber1964 (Post 671988)
are you kidding? less than 3 billion for border security? why are they even trying? smh

He said this deal is a non starter, it's not even worthy of negotiation, wtf is the Gang of Six suppose to do with that?

Smooth 01-16-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber1964 (Post 671988)
are you kidding? less than 3 billion for border security? why are they even trying? smh

Agreed. $1.5 .... lmfao yeah. Good luck with that

2MoreYears 01-16-2018 06:48 PM

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10 years citizenship? ;(

VJB2 01-16-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 671994)
10 years citizenship? ;(

You're lucky it's even mentioned. Before, your main orange bloated freakshow wouldn't even want to hear that word.

Smooth 01-16-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 671990)
That's what I've been saying. It's very reasonable.

Not for Trump's wall. only $1.5 billion. lmfao That is way under what trump wants. What is the price? $8 billion?

Dres2011 01-16-2018 06:50 PM

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this is dead.

jwxie518 01-16-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 671994)
10 years citizenship? ;(

Maybe you will find a USC down the road!!! For love and maybe sex too!!!

catportal 01-16-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 671994)
10 years citizenship? ;(

It's actually not that bad, normally you have to have GC for 5 years.

LiveYourLife 01-16-2018 06:51 PM

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10 years for Dreamers who have DACA and 12 years for non DACA dreamers?

jwxie518 01-16-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 671994)
10 years citizenship? ;(

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 671996)
Not for Trump's wall. only $1.5 billion. lmfao That is way under what trump wants. What is the price? $8 billion?

He is asking for a total of 18B. So someone please give him 10B.

VJB2 01-16-2018 06:54 PM

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I think all of the major companies who are in support of us, and have billions to throw around while buying out apps, should come together and pay for the stupid wall.

Jk. Mostly.

Swim19 01-16-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 671996)
Not for Trump's wall. only $1.5 billion. lmfao That is way under what trump wants. What is the price? $8 billion?

You add too much $$$ to the wall and you lose DEMs. We all know even if more money had been added the meeting would have still happened exactly as it did.

If it really was only about the wall money, Trump could have countered the offer.

Erik1421 01-16-2018 06:57 PM

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This was the deal that didn't pass.

Outsider626 01-16-2018 06:59 PM

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All we need is a GC.

vander 01-16-2018 07:01 PM

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TPS GC?? 25k every year... nuts...
Parents 3yrs permit without end.... no way..
And so little money for the wall... mabr 5.5 or 1/4 of the total (like 8.2 or 8.6). Any word of Diaz-Balart deal or anything?

VJB2 01-16-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vander (Post 672020)
TPS GC?? 25k every year... nuts...
Parents 3yrs permit without end.... no way..
And so little money for the wall... mabr 5.5 or 1/4 of the total (like 8.2 or 8.6). Any word of Diaz-Balart deal or anything?

You're gonna take what they give you and you're gonna like it.

IbelieveIcanFly 01-16-2018 07:02 PM

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Give them $5b, take out diversity visa completely (ain't hurting anyone), take out parent protection (CIR topic) then it's a done deal. Why is it so hard? It's clear that no one is serious about our lives. Fuck these politicians.

Got_Daca 01-16-2018 07:03 PM

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Please pass this soon

Smooth 01-16-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 672015)
You add too much $$$ to the wall and you lose DEMs. We all know even if more money had been added the meeting would have still happened exactly as it did.

If it really was only about the wall money, Trump could have countered the offer.

Factor in the Blue Morons mentioning the CBC and the possibility of addressing TPS in a DACA deal. We all know that trying to include TPS in the deal is futile. It will not lead anywhere.

ceaguila 01-16-2018 07:06 PM

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.@lisamurkowski and @SenatorCollins both tell me me they support the @LindseyGrahamSC @SenatorDurbin DACA proposal

sldkfj 01-16-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 672022)
You're gonna take what they give you and you're gonna like it.

HAHAHA

Trump didn't like that they were giving "amnesty' to parents.

Swim19 01-16-2018 07:07 PM

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@ChadPergram

Schumer: To avoid a shutdown, we must compromise. So Democrats tried in good faith to meet the President and our Republican colleagues halfway – to find a deal that neither side loved but both sides could live with. And that’s what a bipartisan group of Senators achieved.

Got_Daca 01-16-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 672027)
.@lisamurkowski and @SenatorCollins both tell me me they support the @LindseyGrahamSC @SenatorDurbin DACA proposal

So we have 55 votes

Swim19 01-16-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 672026)
Factor in the Blue Morons mentioning the CBC and the possibility of addressing TPS in a DACA deal. We all know that trying to include TPS in the deal is futile. It will not lead anywhere.

I don't know. I still feel even if DEMs would have agreed to more wall money that Purdue & Cotton would have then pushed Trump to ask for something more.

ceaguila 01-16-2018 07:11 PM

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Bipartisan immigration plan fell short on border security: White House

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...source=twitter

2Face 01-16-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 672036)
Bipartisan immigration plan fell short on border security: White House

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...source=twitter

You've provided a different articles link brosef. Thanks!

Afridi786 01-16-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 672042)
You've provided a different articles link brosef. Thanks!

Here it is.

thedream 01-16-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 672046)

I can only hope that this is a face-saving move for the White House. Ask for more money and a few other small concessions, and once it's agreed, they can justify their initial rejection of the deal.

If this is the case, then I hope the democrats concede and give an extra 1-2 billion. It's already a waste of money, but anything above that will be (1) too much of a waste of money and more importantly (2) politically untenable as it gets Trump closer to declaring victory in getting his border wall.

Admittedly, this is a best case scenario. In all likelyhood, this is, as Senator Graham so graciously put it, a shitshow. And it will likely leave us all with immigration blue balls.

jwxie518 01-16-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream (Post 672071)
I can only hope that this is a face-saving move for the White House. Ask for more money and a few other small concessions, and once it's agreed, they can justify their initial rejection of the deal.

If this is the case, then I hope the democrats concede and give an extra 1-2 billion. It's already a waste of money, but anything above that will be (1) too much of a waste of money and more importantly (2) politically untenable as it gets Trump closer to declaring victory in getting his border wall.

Admittedly, this is a best case scenario. In all likelyhood, this is, as Senator Graham so graciously put it, a shitshow. And it will likely leave us all with immigration blue balls.

I remember telling people how building a wall is useless and cost so much money. How I and everyone rejected that idea every day on social media. I said that from the POV of a futute USC.. It’s quiet now. My citizen friends don’t shout anymote. I don’t either. No one in my social circle is publicly resharing/retweeting how dumb Trump is. We are used to Trump, and we are used to how Congress works. We’ve got better things to worry about like our day job and family.

You know why? Most people don’t really care. It’s a “in the moment of heat” thing. We are well-passed Trump’s 100 days. We read about investigation and Trump’s ridiculous comments every day, well, guess what? Who is marching now huh?

So if we give them 10B, the voters will soon to forget. Even if they don’t forget, they will just keep cool ln election day. This is why our modern society never really progress

DD4S 01-16-2018 07:46 PM

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so is this the old one? or the new one that's going to be presented tomorrow?

catportal 01-16-2018 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 672027)
.@lisamurkowski and @SenatorCollins both tell me me they support the @LindseyGrahamSC @SenatorDurbin DACA proposal

Finally a quality post. You guys need to look past the politics, look for the nuggets of important info like this.

thedream 01-16-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 672079)
I remember telling people how building a wall is useless and cost so much money. How I and everyone rejected that idea every day on social media. I said that from the POV of a futute USC.. It’s quiet now. My citizen friends don’t shout anymote. I don’t either. No one in my social circle is publicly resharing/retweeting how dumb Trump is. We are used to Trump, and we are used to how Congress works. We’ve got better things to worry about like our day job and family.

You know why? Most people don’t really care. It’s a “in the moment of heat” thing. We are well-passed Trump’s 100 days. We read about investigation and Trump’s ridiculous comments every day, well, guess what? Who is marching now huh?

So if we give them 10B, the voters will soon to forget. Even if they don’t forget, they will just keep cool ln election day. This is why our modern society never really progress

The sad truth is that the average liberal in this country cares a lot more about opposing the wall than legalizing the Dreamers. The wall is extremely publicized, it's become a symbol of anti-Trump sentiment. The wall represents everything these people hate about Trump.

Liberals would hate giving in on the wall even if it means we get citizenship. Dreamers don't mean much to them. Most have never known a Dreamer and don't really understand what we're going through. Just think of all the people who have been deported since Trump became president, they are forgotten about within minutes. The same thing will happen to us if the Dream Act doesn't pass.

But the wall? As long as Trump is president, liberals will hate the wall. It's a powerful political tool and the democrats won't wanna give in on it.

versailles 01-16-2018 07:55 PM

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this is the same one they rejected.
dems need to get real.
and people need to understand he's not talking about a great wall of china.


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