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jaylove16 01-18-2018 05:23 PM

Senate Dems say they have votes to block spending bill as shutdown edges closer
 
Senate Democrats have secured the votes to block a House plan to fund the government through mid-February.

A Democratic aide confirmed that the caucus will be able to block Republicans from getting the 60 votes needed to overcome an initial procedural hurdle.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...ll-as-shutdown

Republicans better come to a bipartisan agreement!

eva02 01-18-2018 05:24 PM

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Wasn’t the house supposed to vote on a bill today???

jaylove16 01-18-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 673883)
Wasn’t the house supposed to vote on a bill today???

If they are smart , they’ll even go to Pelosi for an agreement before they do that . What’s the point if it fails in the senate?

ceaguila 01-18-2018 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 673883)
Wasn’t the house supposed to vote on a bill today???

They are voting on it tonight

VJB2 01-18-2018 05:30 PM

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When did they vote for the last one? The night before as well? I feel like last time, there were more news and the likelihood of it not shutting down. I feel like they're really pushing it this time, and it might even happen after all.

Demise 01-18-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 673895)
When did they vote for the last one? The night before as well? I feel like last time, there was more news and the likelihood of it not shutting down. I feel like they're really pushing it this time, and it might even happen after all.

Yeah last one passed Thursday Dec 21st in the evening. I guess they want to usually give the President one day to sign it, or have some reserve for really emergency votes (i.e. bill fails and they have to start ceding ground).

davidrellis 01-18-2018 05:33 PM

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How come we haven’t heard much from the No. 2’s meeting? I take it probably lead to a breakthrough?

jwxie518 01-18-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 673895)
When did they vote for the last one? The night before as well? I feel like last time, there were more news and the likelihood of it not shutting down. I feel like they're really pushing it this time, and it might even happen after all.

Yeah like 10?

Demise 01-18-2018 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidrellis (Post 673900)
How come we haven’t heard much from the No. 2’s meeting? I take it probably lead to a breakthrough?

I doubt it did. We have to remember that Cornyn is an asshole.

VJB2 01-18-2018 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 673898)
Yeah last one passed Thursday Dec 21st in the evening. I guess they want to usually give the President one day to sign it, or have some reserve for really emergency votes (i.e. bill fails and they have to start ceding ground).

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 673902)
Yeah like 10?


Thanks. Let's gooooo!

catportal 01-18-2018 05:45 PM

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They will pass the 5 day CR I think.

jwxie518 01-18-2018 05:51 PM

Re: Senate Dems say they have votes to block spending bill as shutdown edges closer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 673895)
When did they vote for the last one? The night before as well? I feel like last time, there were more news and the likelihood of it not shutting down. I feel like they're really pushing it this time, and it might even happen after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by catportal (Post 673917)
They will pass the 5 day CR I think.

Nooooooooooooooo

JJ Glo 01-18-2018 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by catportal (Post 673917)
They will pass the 5 day CR I think.

What's the fucking point? What have they been doing all this time?

Kevin Vanegas 01-18-2018 05:54 PM

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How do they "have the votes to stop a CR?" This title is misleading. It's the Republicans job to get the votes not the Democrats to stop it lol. It makes me think that this article was made to frame the Dem's as obstructionist.

Swim19 01-18-2018 05:55 PM

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@ChadPergram

House now debating temporary spending bill to avoid government shutdown at 11:59:59 pm et Friday. We expect a final vote to hit between 7 and 8 pm et tonight.

NotADreamerPerSe 01-18-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 673925)
What's the fucking point? What have they been doing all this time?

This. What are they going to do in the next five days that they haven't done in the past four months?

JJ Glo 01-18-2018 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Vanegas (Post 673926)
How do they "have the votes to stop a CR?" This title is misleading. It's the Republicans job to get the votes not the Democrats to stop it lol. It makes me think that this article was made to frame the Dem's as obstructionist.

They have the "NO" votes necessary?

jwxie518 01-18-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 673927)
@ChadPergram

House now debating temporary spending bill to avoid government shutdown at 11:59:59 pm et Friday. We expect a final vote to hit between 7 and 8 pm et tonight.

Guys, pray! We cannot let this through. Another week is a torture. I mean sure if passes next week fine, but we cannot keep changing stand! Every time we do this we are back on the “shutdown” headline and try to convince people to vote no. Every single time. Are they not tired of lobbying on the Hill every day about this???

JJ Glo 01-18-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 673932)
Guys, pray! We cannot let this through. Another week is a torture. I mean sure if passes next week fine, but we cannot keep changing stand! Every time we do this we are back on the “shutdown” headline and try to convince people to vote no. Every single time. Are they not tired of lobbying on the Hill every day about this???

The only positive is that as the CR's keep piling up, more people are voting NO.

VJB2 01-18-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 673936)
The only positive is that as the CR's keep piling up, more people are voting NO.

Agreed. An article I read earlier mentioned how the number of NO votes increase with each one. Eventually they're not going to be able to pull it off anymore... that time is soon.

We're coming for you, Ryan and McTurtle.

BestBefore1984 01-18-2018 06:08 PM

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What time are these cowards voting on this?

jaylove16 01-18-2018 06:08 PM

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Mark Meadows on cnn saying they don’t have the votes and he opposes the current CR.

Got_Daca 01-18-2018 06:09 PM

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So there is no last min deal?

It will go down to shutdown vote?

Swim19 01-18-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 673943)
Mark Meadows on cnn saying they don’t have the votes and he opposes the current CR.

@MEPFuller

Just a guess here, but whatever the Freedom Caucus and Donald Trump cooked up just now probably isn’t gonna fly with Senate Democrats.

This could be more about optics in a shutdown than preventing a shutdown.

Demise 01-18-2018 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Vanegas (Post 673926)
How do they "have the votes to stop a CR?" This title is misleading. It's the Republicans job to get the votes not the Democrats to stop it lol. It makes me think that this article was made to frame the Dem's as obstructionist.

Filibuster, that's how. You invoke a filibuster the other side needs 60 votes to overcome it, which on the flipside means you need 41 nays/nvs to stall the bill.

Democrats need 41 altogether here. McCain is out sick so he is not voting by default. That leaves 40 more.

As is 10 democrats would have to break rank, and we know that at least 2 Rs* won't vote for CR, which raises the amount of turncoats required to 12 or more.

* Technically Rand Paul said he won't but he's a bitch and probably will so I'm not counting him.

JJ Glo 01-18-2018 06:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 673946)
@MEPFuller

Just a guess here, but whatever the Freedom Caucus and Donald Trump cooked up just now probably isn’t gonna fly with Senate Democrats.

This could be more about optics in a shutdown than preventing a shutdown.

They're trying to put the blame on Dems for the inevitable shutdown?

Swim19 01-18-2018 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 673950)
They're trying to put the blame on Dems for the inevitable shutdown?

Probably.

@MEPFuller

A Dem aide just told me Steny Hoyer told Democrats they are 99% together.

You do the math on how many Democrats that equals, but it's not many.

justjohnjustice1988 01-18-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 673952)
Probably.

@MEPFuller

A Dem aide just told me Steny Hoyer told Democrats they are 99% together.

You do the math on how many Democrats that equals, but it's not many.

Shutdown happened under Obama over the debt ceiling...

Now it will be over DACA...and it should be.

The Republicans fail at legislating. They dont have a backbone to oppose their senile ignorant racist in chief.

Fuck them all!

ceaguila 01-18-2018 06:34 PM

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Senator Feinstein has flip floped three times today and is not being clear. Her office says she's a no but if there's anyone here form California, call her OFFICE!

"Shutting down the government is a very serious thing. People die, accidents happen. You don't know. Necessary functions can cease," she said

libertarian1776 01-18-2018 06:35 PM

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the dream will finally be realized this weeknd?

dreamer__13 01-18-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 673958)
Senator Feinstein has flip floped three times today and is not being clear. Her office says she's a no but if there's anyone here form California, call her OFFICE!

"Shutting down the government is a very serious thing. People die, accidents happen. You don't know. Necessary functions can cease," she said

Oh hell nah. This crippled bitch needs to get kicked out of congress.

davidrellis 01-18-2018 06:39 PM

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Lol how hard is it for Feinstein to stick to a position

Afridi786 01-18-2018 06:41 PM

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GOP is so slimy. They are pinning us against CHIP. Dems are the ones that were pushing hard for it, now GOP using it divert blame for the shutdown.

nodreamnodealio 01-18-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 673963)
GOP is so slimy. They are pinning us against CHIP. Dems are the ones that were pushing hard for it, now GOP using it divert blame for the shutdown.

Their CHiP offer is not a good offer.

ceaguila 01-18-2018 06:53 PM

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Mark Meadows tells reporters he will recommend the Freedom Caucus vote YES on the spending bill after reaching some unspecified deal on military spending with Speaker Ryan

It'll pass the House most likely now.

Afridi786 01-18-2018 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 673968)
Mark Meadows tells reporters he will recommend the Freedom Caucus vote YES on the spending bill after reaching some unspecified deal on military spending with Speaker Ryan

It'll pass the House most likely now.

That was always going to happen.

Copper 01-18-2018 06:54 PM

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Well, our only hopes lies on the senate now.

Copper 01-18-2018 06:56 PM

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Mark Meadows, leaving a meeting with House GOP leaders, says he’s gonna meet with the Freedom Caucus right now and urge them to vote yes after making some deal. So the House CR might pass, but the Senate is an even bigger question now.
Looks like they have the votes in the House.

Copper 01-18-2018 07:00 PM

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Diane Feinstein needs to be voted out come 2018

"I don't know how I would vote right now on a CR, OK?" she said before ending the interview with a polite "thank you.

nodreamnodealio 01-18-2018 07:04 PM

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Shis gop House has the votes now dems need to hold in senate.


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