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uion1715 01-21-2018 08:37 PM

Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Hello. I did not do a round-up on Friday because of the then-impending shutdown which did not become official until around 10 PM PST/1 AM EST on Saturday morning.

But here it is, your quick-ish look at everything that happened this weekend.

First, if you are not aware of what had happened before today, here's a good recap of everything that had gone on from Friday to Sunday morning (https://twitter.com/kasie/status/955094670744457216).

It has been a remarkable weekend, the weekend that has yet to end. The day will really end on 1 AM EST/10 PM PST tonight when the Senate plans to vote on a cloture motion to pass the three-week CR to Feb. 8.

Will that happen? Senate Majority Whip Cornyn (R-TX) says no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Pergram (Fox News Congress reporter)
Cornyn indicated that if he were placing bets, he thought the government would be shut down tomorrow

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...30356625608706

Other senators have been more optimistic, as Graham and Flake have been playing "shuttle" diplomacy to get the Senate Majority Leader McConnell (R-KY) and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to talk. McConnell and Schumer had a meeting around 5 PM EST, but senators close to the negotiations say those two haven't come to a deal yet.

Meanwhile, the group of about 25 bipartisan "moderate" senators has been working to find a solution palatable to both leaders.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) called the group's meeting today "one of the best meetings that I've ever been to" - https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...81797205331969

What will that agreement look like?

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Originally Posted by Andrew Desiderio (Daily Beast Congress reporter)
Just spoke with @JeffFlake. He says the outline of the deal presented to McConnell is "to move the commitment to go to immigration—to move it sooner, prior to Feb. 8."

A hard commitment? "A motion to proceed."

https://twitter.com/desiderioDC/stat...98250822316032

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manu Raju (CNN Congress reporter)
McConnell and Schumer now discussing proposal by bipartisan group of senators: Short-term CR to reopen govt plus a “commitment” to get DACA, disaster relief, domestic/defense spending. Two leaders will have to determine what commitment means

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/955200879447171072

What will that "commitment" look like? We don't know yet, but we will know soon enough. Also, what about the House?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Fuller (HuffPost Congress reporter)
If Senate Dems get a vote on their DACA bill, even if they didn’t get one in the House, it’d put the onus on House Republicans.

The next shutdown would be about House Republicans refusing to vote on a Senate-passed DACA bill.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/955173517582110720

The battle over this shutdown has played out in the open today in Sunday talk shows. Republicans and the White House stressed that they are not willing to negotiate over DACA when the government is shut down.

The White House, especially, has tried to play down the involvement of senators such as Graham (R-SC) and Flake (R-AZ) in trying to come to a compromise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil Kapur (Bloomberg national politics reporter)
WH spox @hogangidley45 responds to Lindsey Graham on Stephen Miller: “As long as Sen Graham chooses to support legislation that sides with people in this country illegally and unlawfully instead of our own American citizens, we’re going nowhere. He’s been an outlier for years.”

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...21087121477633

Their messaging game? Don't let Democrats play with the government over illegal aliens. In what is a remarkable shift of rhetorics, GOP and the WH have effectively emphasized that Dreamers don't matter. Don't believe me? Well, this ad from the Donald Trump reelection campaign says it all, really (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nm0vQwO5c).

Democrats' response? First, that they are shutting down the government not just over DACA but their frustration over having to fund the government through CR for months. (https://twitter.com/alweaver22/statu...41380074082309)

Also, that they have offered a "wall for Dreamers" pitch, that POTUS turned down despite him repeatedly asking for such a deal. Even hard-liners such as Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) have repeated this point (WH, for what it's worth, denies this: https://twitter.com/jonallendc/statu...81281540444160).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett Haake (MSNBC correspondent)
The big change so far in shutdown day 2 is Democrats explicitly offering to trade the wall for DREAMERS, calling for Trump to close the deal.

https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/sta...44964815704064

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Nobles (CNN Washington correspondent)
Schumer on the floor confirms that he did offer $$$ for the wall in exchange for a DACA fix. “the president picked a number (on funding) and I agreed... he can’t take yes for an answer.” https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/955143389233733632

WH did offer some wriggle rooms on those talk shows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seung Min Kim (Politico Congress reporter)
Hmm, some progress? Short (Editor's note: WH leg. affairs director Marc Short) says on @MeetThePress that the administration is willing to expand legal protections to a universe beyond just current DACA recipients https://twitter.com/seungminkim/stat...02826593693701

Ultimately, it will be up to GOP leaders and POTUS to make a deal. The main conflict now, it seems, is that GOP is not happy with border security + DACA combo. It wants to tweak the current legal immigration system (As this acute analysis of House GOP's immigration bill shows - https://twitter.com/David_J_Bier/sta...68686968283138).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susan Davis (NPR Congress reporter)
So an immigration deal needs to simultaneously win 1.) Schumer & Durbin's votes 2.) John Kelly & Stephen Miller's recommendation to Trump to endorse it. 3.) Paul Ryan's commitment to a House vote even if it splits the majority. Hmmm. https://twitter.com/DaviSusan/status/954815976842891264

Will POTUS, being frustrated, eventually decide to cut Kelly and Miller out of this and deal with this himself? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.b0fd4d804dce)

OR will Congress just cut POTUS out and deal with it themselves?

Those will be the key to solving some of the questions over DACA.

Looking forward... If the shutdown doesn't end today... we might be in for a long fight. Both Democrats and Republicans, as of today at least, seem pretty resolute that their positions are correct.

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...78700079714304

What will the "agreement" look like... Are both sides even willing to come to the "agreement?" There remains much intrigue tonight and I'll recap it all tomorrow. May God smile upon us tonight and tomorrow.

DreamerSD23 01-21-2018 08:41 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
I feel like title should have been:

"Daily DACA Round-Up Shutdown Edition: 1/21/18"

pavpatel 01-21-2018 08:47 PM

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Great work. Thanks man.

natalia1 01-21-2018 08:52 PM

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These are so helpful, thank you!!

TonyM203 01-21-2018 08:59 PM

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Thanks for putting all this in one place!

Michcio07 01-21-2018 09:00 PM

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By looks of it deal is close.... Feb 8 CR no promises on DACA but if nothing is agreed upon vote in Senate only promissed...

If that is the deal they take they better be able to shut the gov down completely on Fev 8 until we get Dream act or something passed cuz this is bananas. It’s the lowest of the low balls and Dems are about to fall for it.

uion1715 01-21-2018 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 677670)
I feel like title should have been:

"Daily DACA Round-Up Shutdown Edition: 1/21/18"

Maybe tomorrow ahaha.

Also, Feb. 8 deal isn't as bad as it looks...gives Democrats and senators like Flake and Graham another leverage to shut down the government completely.

EDITED: Scratch that last paragraph. With McConnell saying he will only address DACA if there's no shutdown, the Feb. 8 deal, as it stands now, makes Democrats lose its leverage.

RedBlueGreen 01-21-2018 09:03 PM

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Hopefully moderates don’t sink us.

SEPT 06 01-21-2018 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 677678)
Maybe tomorrow ahaha.

Also, Feb. 8 deal isn't as bad as it looks...gives Democrats and senators like Flake and Graham another leverage to shut down the government completely.

I still not understanding this, are they gonna have DACA like bill in place before March 5th or Feb 8th before another CR?

uion1715 01-21-2018 09:26 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEPT 06 (Post 677684)
I still not understanding this, are they gonna have DACA like bill in place before March 5th or Feb 8th before another CR?

SO, from what I am reading, the idea is to officially start a "debate" on the Senate floor on a DACA bill before Feb. 8 but not have a vote.

Then, McConnell will decide on whether to bring the debated bill to a vote after Feb. 8, then it will be up to the House and POTUS to decide what to do.

Dems will not know if their bill will be voted on by Feb. 8, but if they are not happy with the progress, they can vote again to shut down the government.

I don't know if I'm 100 percent right on this. (https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/955245387597594624)

ceaguila 01-21-2018 09:36 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 677689)
SO, from what I am reading, the idea is to officially start a "debate" on the Senate floor on a DACA bill before Feb. 8 but not have a vote.

Then, McConnell will decide on whether to bring the debated bill to a vote after Feb. 8, then it will be up to the House and POTUS to decide what to do.

Dems will not know if their bill will be voted on by Feb. 8, but if they are not happy with the progress, they can vote again to shut down the government.

I don't know if I'm 100 percent right on this. (https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/955245387597594624)

@StevenTDennis has more on this but until we don't hear from SChumer who knows.

I'm not liking this..

Outsider626 01-21-2018 09:42 PM

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Mcconnel and Shumer meet. No deal yet on shutdown.

Swim19 01-21-2018 09:43 PM

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@igorbobic
Merkley on possible commitment on immigration: “There’s been a lot of promises made to different senators that have not been followed through on by the majority leader, so I would be very leery of anything that wasn’t extremely, extremely clear and detailed”

ceaguila 01-21-2018 09:49 PM

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Interesting: @JohnCornyn just now: “I’m a little more optimistic” shutdown may end tonight. (No specific news, just his feeling)

Got_Daca 01-21-2018 09:49 PM

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They are doing this to us

No chance for CIR

Got_Daca 01-21-2018 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 677710)
Interesting: @JohnCornyn just now: “I’m a little more optimistic” shutdown may end tonight. (No specific news, just his feeling)

Stop quoting that cornhole

SurfyB 01-21-2018 09:51 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 677678)
Maybe tomorrow ahaha.

Also, Feb. 8 deal isn't as bad as it looks...gives Democrats and senators like Flake and Graham another leverage to shut down the government completely.

Wouldn't that leave them in a worse spot though? They will say they are holding people hostages when their demands aren't met or something like that.. hours seem like days nowdays :(

Swim19 01-21-2018 09:51 PM

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@ChadPergram
Things getting serious at the Capitol. White House Director of Legislative Affairs Marc Short just arrived

n3lson2017 01-21-2018 09:52 PM

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It looks like after the meeting no deal yet. The WH is the problem. Racist miller and kelly are the ones running the WH.

Swim19 01-21-2018 09:55 PM

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@ChadPergram
Senate Majority Leader McConnell to be on the flr. Will give an updnate just after 9 pm et

SEPT 06 01-21-2018 09:55 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 677689)
SO, from what I am reading, the idea is to officially start a "debate" on the Senate floor on a DACA bill before Feb. 8 but not have a vote.

Then, McConnell will decide on whether to bring the debated bill to a vote after Feb. 8, then it will be up to the House and POTUS to decide what to do.

Dems will not know if their bill will be voted on by Feb. 8, but if they are not happy with the progress, they can vote again to shut down the government.

I don't know if I'm 100 percent right on this. (https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/955245387597594624)

But I still don’t trust Republicans, why not pass DACA related bill before Feb 8 th , before another C.R. otherwise we will be screwed for sure.

n3lson2017 01-21-2018 09:55 PM

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If we dont get anything written by these clowns that they will for sure pass a daca bill, schumer shoouldnt open the Gov.

Afridi786 01-21-2018 09:57 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 677720)
@ChadPergram
Senate Majority Leader McConnell to be on the flr. Will give an updnate just after 9 pm et

Ugh, expecting more of the same crap. He did just have a meeting with Cornyn, Flake, and Graham. I'm kind of nervous, Flake and Graham might be doing a Game of Thrones Varys/Littlefinger type double cross.

Got_Daca 01-21-2018 09:57 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Get 3 year renewable bridge with travel for the wall

Forget about citizenship

Outsider626 01-21-2018 09:59 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 677726)
Get 3 year renewable bridge with travel for the wall

Forget about citizenship

We need GC man. Don't care about citizenship.

DABeliever 01-21-2018 10:00 PM

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Praying dems stand tall.

Outsider626 01-21-2018 10:01 PM

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Turn on CNN everyone. Turtle neck will speak any minute now.

BrokeAssDreamer 01-21-2018 10:05 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Politicians with our lives in their hands...smh

Outsider626 01-21-2018 10:06 PM

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Believe in Chucky!

Afridi786 01-21-2018 10:09 PM

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Turtle's up soon. Please help us turtle man, show some compassion.

Outsider626 01-21-2018 10:10 PM

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Dems can't cave in now.

Swim19 01-21-2018 10:10 PM

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@ChadPergram
McConnell comes into the chamber to speak. Who intercepts him in the Senate chamber? House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows

NotADreamerPerSe 01-21-2018 10:11 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
I'm ready to give up. Someone help us!

natalia1 01-21-2018 10:11 PM

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Link please?

Outsider626 01-21-2018 10:11 PM

Re: Daily DACA Round-Up Special Edition: 1/21/18
 
Shumer and Mcconnel talking!

castro_car 01-21-2018 10:12 PM

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ugh

Chad Pergram

Verified account

@ChadPergram
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McConnell comes into the chamber to speak. Who intercepts him in the Senate chamber? House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows

Outsider626 01-21-2018 10:12 PM

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Chucky don't betray us!

NotADreamerPerSe 01-21-2018 10:12 PM

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C'mon Chuck!

Afridi786 01-21-2018 10:15 PM

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@ChadPergram
McConnell comes into the chamber to speak. Who intercepts him in the Senate chamber? House Freedom Caucus Chair Mark Meadows

We're fucked.

hopeful_in_nyc 01-21-2018 10:15 PM

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What’s happening????


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