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dtrt09 01-22-2018 04:31 PM

Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2...mpression=true

#SchumerSellout

catportal 01-22-2018 04:33 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
Rumors are that Shumer had internal polls showing his OWN SEAT might be hurt by the shutdown.

Swim19 01-22-2018 04:38 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
Statement by Fwd.us:

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WASHINGTON, DC – FWD.us President Todd Schulte issued the following statement today on today’s Congressional votes:


Today represents a tragic missed opportunity for Congress to rise to the occasion and fight on behalf of Dreamers and the 86% of Americans who want Congress to protect Dreamers. Delaying protections for Dreamers means tens of thousands more individuals living in our communities will be ripped out of their jobs, separated from their families, and may be deported to countries they barely know.


The binary choice before every member of Congress has not changed: either they will pass bipartisan legislation to protect Dreamers, or they will watch as nearly 800,000 young people who grew up in our communities, prayed in our churches, and studied in our schools are systematically ripped out of the only country they know. Every day, every Member of Congress will have to look in the mirror and ask themselves what they did – or failed to do – to prevent the mass firings and mass deportation of Dreamers. Their actions and the results are what matter.


Republicans control the Senate. Republicans control the House. Republicans control the White House. The Republican President has – like the leaders of both chambers – repeatedly said he want to protect Dreamers. But until Speaker Ryan and Senator McConnell put bipartisan legislation to a vote, Dreamers will lose status and soon our nation will begin the large-scale deportation of DACA recipients.


“he lives of Dreamers will be their hands and they will be judged by their actions and results between now and February 8th. We will win – and we will get legislation passed to protect Dreamers and will continue to fight for a bipartisan solution.

IamAman 01-22-2018 04:39 PM

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I don't know what liberals expect. Dems just don't have the seats and they don't have leverage. Instead of getting angry, they should be making sure they're registered to vote.

catportal 01-22-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 678753)
I don't know what liberals expect. Dems just don't have the seats and they don't have leverage. Instead of getting angry, they should be making sure they're registered to vote.

Why vote for useless Dems? They had majorities for 2 years, why was immigration put on the back burner?

Copper 01-22-2018 04:42 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
The sad part about this, is that we didn’t even get to negotiate with Trump. The towel was just simply thrown. Not even a compromise to get his DOJ to back off the DACA lawsuit. Anything, something! McConnell’s word means nothing.

libertarian1776 01-22-2018 04:43 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
Democrats won multiple battles:
-We got CHIP funded -We reopened the Gov’t
-We got a commitment from the GOP that we get a DACA vote in the next few weeks -If they are lying then the Gov’t shuts down again before DACA expires GOP caved,

GOP lost big time It’s time #TrumpResign

@dworkin

catportal 01-22-2018 04:44 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 678760)
Democrats won multiple battles:
-We got CHIP funded -We reopened the Gov’t
-We got a commitment from the GOP that we get a DACA vote in the next few weeks -If they are lying then the Gov’t shuts down again before DACA expires GOP caved,

GOP lost big time It’s time #TrumpResign

@dworkin

Wow this Dworkin guy is delusional. Chip was in the Friday deal lol.

desice 01-22-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678756)
Why vote for useless Dems? They had majorities for 2 years, why was immigration put on the back burner?

For all intents and purposes, you vote either Dem or GOP. Honestly more important is ensuring the right candidate is chosen during the Democratic primaries. And then ensure that person is elected.

Swim19 01-22-2018 04:46 PM

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@funder
Trump just sent out an email to fundraise off of the shutdown. He titled it Democrats CAVED. So many things wrong with this. Instead of bringing us together he wants to divide us more. And the fact he’s fundraising off of the #TrumpShutdown is absolutely pathetic. #TrumpResign

desice 01-22-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678762)
Wow this Dworkin guy is delusional. Chip was in the Friday deal lol.

man he's like those far right trumpers "trump can do no wrong," but he's a democrat.

VeryNicePerson1 01-22-2018 04:47 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
It could be a power play to hold McConnell and the Repubs to their word to help pass the Dreamer bill come Feb 8th...and then shutdown if the Repubs back off.

But I'm not confident that the Dems will follow through.

DreamerSD23 01-22-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678742)
Rumors are that Shumer had internal polls showing his OWN SEAT might be hurt by the shutdown.

I refuse to believe this fake news.

He was re-elected with 70% of the vote in 2016.

Afridi786 01-22-2018 04:51 PM

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Lol, Dems had the worst possible outcome, GOP and Liberals think they are weak. CNN is bashing them, they got "their butts kicked" over and over again.

Swim19 01-22-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 678774)
Lol, Dems had the worst possible outcome, GOP and Liberals think they are weak. CNN is bashing them, they got "their butts kicked" over and over again.

Yesterday CNN was all 'oh isn't the March 5th the deadline? Why would you shut down the government now over something that isn't urgent?'...and then a day later the DEMs cave and then CNN bashes them? LOL

SurfyB 01-22-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 678775)
Yesterday CNN was all 'oh isn't the March 5th the deadline? Why would you shut down the government now over something that isn't urgent?'...and then a day later the DEMs cave and then CNN bashes them? LOL

Yeah CNN has been fucking stupid, looked like fucking Fox. Crazy man.

JJ Glo 01-22-2018 04:55 PM

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Fake News media!

Alfredo93 01-22-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 678774)
Lol, Dems had the worst possible outcome, GOP and Liberals think they are weak. CNN is bashing them, they got "their butts kicked" over and over again.

Well they are coming out of being in power for 8 years. They are just lost.

VeryNicePerson1 01-22-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 678775)
Yesterday CNN was all 'oh isn't the March 5th the deadline? Why would you shut down the government now over something that isn't urgent?'...and then a day later the DEMs cave and then CNN bashes them? LOL

I'm a fan of Cuomo and I couldn't believe he was pushing that "it's not urgent anymore" talking point...smh...

Swim19 01-22-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 678781)
I'm a fan of Cuomo and I couldn't believe he was pushing that "it's not urgent anymore" talking point...smh...

Yea, usually I am too.


@ALT_uscis

I just want to remind @SenateDems that the people of color they just kicked down the road, are the same people who turned a few elections around your way the last 60 days. Women and minorities KEEP THEIR WORD better than Mitch, they also never forget. #SenateDems

The senate dems just gave the republican propaganda machine 3 weeks to rewrite a more sinister propaganda campaign that will label Democrats purely as amnesty before military and troops. Mark my words.

These political traps were first set by ruling parties in colonial Africa in the 80’s. Apparently they stopped working everywhere else except in America .

Jay Stone 01-22-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 678781)
I'm a fan of Cuomo and I couldn't believe he was pushing that "it's not urgent anymore" talking point...smh...

Eh. I get it though. It's like saying "why shut it down?" and then saying "Wtf? You shut it down for 2 days and did nothing with it?"

If you;re going to do something that big, follow through. Leverage it. Wtf was the shut down for exactly? To keep ppl at work through the weekend? Big whoop. Back to square one.

catportal 01-22-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 678770)
It could be a power play to hold McConnell and the Repubs to their word to help pass the Dreamer bill come Feb 8th...and then shutdown if the Repubs back off.

But I'm not confident that the Dems will follow through.

Or what?

Dukem88 01-22-2018 05:06 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
Well... well... well

Got_Daca 01-22-2018 05:39 PM

Re: Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown
 
UWD mad?

Who cares

Demise 01-22-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678742)
Rumors are that Shumer had internal polls showing his OWN SEAT might be hurt by the shutdown.

In fucking blue as balls New York? Guy isn't up for re-election until 2022 anyways.


Which seat is he so concerned about? His party leadership seat? Good, after this flop he should be scared.

IamAman 01-22-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678756)
Why vote for useless Dems? They had majorities for 2 years, why was immigration put on the back burner?

Are you talking about 10 years ago? What is your brilliant suggestion? I'm dying to know.

catportal 01-22-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 678859)
Are you talking about 10 years ago? What is your brilliant suggestion? I'm dying to know.

Keep the government closed until State of the Union. Democrat strategists are absolutely incompetent. No wonder HRC lost so bad.

Demise 01-22-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678866)
Keep the government closed until State of the Union. Democrat strategists are absolutely incompetent. No wonder HRC lost so bad.

Seriously. Fucking blue wave my ass, we'll have a fucking red tide in 2018 that sweeps all the red/purple states and republicans will walk out with a supermajority.

We need a new left-wing party. Democrats are beyond any repair.

Dukem88 01-22-2018 06:07 PM

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Calm the fuck down people.. We're getting something.. They didn't do all this show just to say "Well.. we tried, sorry dreamers".

Trump is asking for 10 different things, we're only asking for one. So for them to get any of the things on their list, they have to give us the one thing on ours.

ladreamer1998 01-22-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 678756)
Why vote for useless Dems? They had majorities for 2 years, why was immigration put on the back burner?

Because Obama wasted all of his political capital repealing "don't ask don't tell." He sold out the much larger Latino population over gays. Fuck him

lakers1824 01-22-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ladreamer1998 (Post 678900)
Because Obama wasted all of his political capital repealing "don't ask don't tell." He sold out the much larger Latino population over gays. Fuck him

fuck off. without Obama you wouldn't even have DACA. I hope you have to wait 20+ years for your application to be processed if we ever get green cards.

DreamerSD23 01-22-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ladreamer1998 (Post 678900)
Because Obama wasted all of his political capital repealing "don't ask don't tell." He sold out the much larger Latino population over gays. Fuck him

Bro you are so wrong on this...

Whereisthelight 01-22-2018 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 678902)
fuck off. without Obama you wouldn't even have DACA. I hope you have to wait 20+ years for your application to be processed if we ever get green cards.

Add a couple RFEs after that 20+ yr wait.

Kaisaurus 01-22-2018 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ladreamer1998 (Post 678900)
Because Obama wasted all of his political capital repealing "don't ask don't tell." He sold out the much larger Latino population over gays. Fuck him

Wow. Wait until you find out there are gay Latinos :roll:

Nutcase 01-22-2018 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 678902)
fuck off. without Obama you wouldn't even have DACA. I hope you have to wait 20+ years for your application to be processed if we ever get green cards.

That's right. Bush and Trump didn't give us DACA, Obama did. The Dems under Obama passed the Dream Act in the House during the 2010 lame duck session but it was the Repubs in the Senate who derailed it. And Obama had no political capital with the Repubs. They always opposed whatever he did.

Copper 01-22-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutcase (Post 678915)
That's right. Bush and Trump didn't give us DACA, Obama did. The Dems under Obama passed the Dream Act in the House during the 2010 lame duck session but it was the Repubs in the Senate who derailed it

2010 Dream Act needed just 5 votes to pass, 5 Democrats voted against it.

-Mark Pryor
-Jon Tester
-Max Baucus
-Kay Hagan
-Ben Nelson

However, this still doesn’t take any blame from the Republicans.

versailles 01-22-2018 07:00 PM

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smfh, all this attacking a fellow dreamer just because he didn't swallow for obama after finishing praising him.
one thing's to be thankful and other one is to be ignorant.
you know he destabilized multiple countries on the whim of his hag of a secretary right?
make sure to write him in when you can vote so that me and my USC wife have a laugh when it hits the news.
"dreamers write in obama with their first chance to vote"
lmfao.

Dukem88 01-22-2018 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 678920)
2010 Dream Act needed just 5 votes to pass, 5 Democrats voted against it.

-Mark Pryor
-Jon Tester
-Max Baucus
-Kay Hagan
-Ben Nelson

However, this still doesn’t take any blame from the Republicans.

Wow... didnt even know that.. I just remember not wanting to know shit about immigration after that loss. That's just proof that all we're seeing right now is a big pile of bullshit. Its theater people. They know what's going to happen already, all this back and forth is to make it seem like the democratic system works.

Copper 01-22-2018 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 678955)
smfh, all this attacking a fellow dreamer just because he didn't swallow for obama after finishing praising him.
one thing's to be thankful and other one is to be ignorant.
you know he destabilized multiple countries on the whim of his hag of a secretary right?
make sure to write him in when you can vote so that me and my USC wife have a laugh when it hits the news.
"dreamers write in obama with their first chance to vote"
lmfao.

Speaking of ignorant, this same person you're defending is saying we got sold out over "gays"? What do you call that?

lakers1824 01-22-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 678970)
Speaking of ignorant, this same person you're defending is saying we got sold out over "gays"? What do you call that?

what do you expect. their are a couple of breitbart, trump loving, right wing nutjobs in this forum. I wouldn't put it pass some of them to report an illegal immigrant once they get their greed cards.


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