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castro_car 01-24-2018 09:35 PM

Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Don't kill me if this is somehow old news...


Senate Democrats are willing to drop their demand that relief for Dreamers be tied to any long-term budget agreement — a potential breakthrough on spending talks, but one that could face opposition from their House counterparts.

The shift comes in response to the deal struck between Senate leaders Monday to reopen the government and begin debate on an immigration bill next month. Meanwhile, budget negotiators are expressing optimism that a two-year agreement to lift stiff caps on defense and domestic spending is increasingly within reach.

“We’re viewing [immigration and spending] on separate terms because they are on separate paths,” Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Tuesday.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s “procedural concession means we’ve got a deadline and a process,” Durbin added. “That to me is a significant step forward. It’s not everything I wanted, that’s for sure, but it’s a step forward.”

But House Democrats have signaled they are not ready to go along with a long-term budget deal without a fix to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program that President Donald Trump is ending.

“We are insisting that these things be in the same negotiation,” said a senior House Democratic aide. “To us, what’s important is are these talks linked or not linked? To us, they are linked.”

The division among Democrats is complicating negotiations, as lawmakers in both parties face intense pressure — and a two-week time crunch — to show progress on government funding, immigration and a raft of other issues that have resulted in the government operating on stopgap spending bills since September.

Both parties are eager for a long-term budget agreement, with GOP defense hawks furious about uncertainty for the Pentagon and liberal Democrats concerned about deep cuts to domestic programs. But any legislation to boost spending by upwards of $250 billion over two years would likely need broad bipartisan backing in both chambers, as House conservatives have already hinted they’ll balk.

Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), another member of Democratic leadership, said that although she would prefer a deal to protect young undocumented immigrants be part of budget negotiations, the agreement reached with McConnell could make that impossible. The Kentucky Republican has said the Senate would turn to an immigration bill only if the government is still funded, and few Democrats seem to want another shutdown.

“Feb. 8, we’re going to have another [stopgap bill]. But we have to have that budget agreement in order to move forward. … That’s the goal,” Murray said. “And then the deal is that if DACA is not part of that, then it will be the next thing considered.”

“Everyone’s first preference is to get it all done by the 8th,” a Senate Democratic aide said on Wednesday. “We haven’t speculated on what happens if it doesn’t all come together.”

If Democrats are indeed willing to deal on spending caps without a firm commitment on DACA, it would represent a significant shift in the budget talks, which have stalled for months over immigration.

“I think everybody has a pretty general idea about where it’s going to end up. But this has been again another casualty of the DACA issue, that they’ve refused to conclude those,” Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) said Wednesday when asked how close leaders are to a spending caps deal.

“There’s gonna have to be some agreement on the spending caps, I believe [by Feb. 8], because I am skeptical whether the House in particular will vote for another continuing resolution. That’s the dilemma created by our Democratic colleagues,”








https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...n-reach-366992

2Face 01-24-2018 09:36 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
I won't kill you for posting old news but can you please bold the important parts, assuming there's something new you'd like to convey to us???

DD4S 01-24-2018 10:11 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
all of these "news", statements and "change of hearts makes me feel like they reached a deal behind closed doors. Anyone else feel like this?

JJ Glo 01-24-2018 10:13 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DD4S (Post 680721)
all of these "news", statements and "change of hearts makes me feel like they reached a deal behind closed doors. Anyone else feel like this?

That's what I'm thinking. Trump wanting Citizenship and Dems willing to give a clean budget bill.

MessiD10s 01-24-2018 10:14 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DD4S (Post 680721)
all of these "news", statements and "change of hearts makes me feel like they reached a deal behind closed doors. Anyone else feel like this?

In politics nothing happens because it happened. , Im confident that they did in fact reach a deal.

DreamerSD23 01-24-2018 10:27 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Why is this news.

ceaguila 01-24-2018 10:28 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 680736)
Why is this news.

Because the idea was always to have Dream Act attached to the spending bill and now that's not the plan anymore..BIG risk

DreamerSD23 01-24-2018 10:32 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 680738)
Because the idea was always to have Dream Act attached to the spending bill and now that's not the plan anymore..BIG risk

Where are you getting that they won't attach DREAM Act to the next spending bill?

FarikoXpress 01-24-2018 10:34 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
We’re viewing [immigration and spending] on separate terms because they are on separate paths,” Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Tuesday.

Copper 01-24-2018 10:36 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Democrats would be stupid to pass a budget without getting a DACA resolution first. Let’s hope they can get something pass that February 8th deadline.

MessiD10s 01-24-2018 10:38 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 680744)
Democrats would be stupid to pass a budget without getting a DACA resolution first. Let’s hope they can get something pass that February 8th deadline.

Durbin knows they have a deal, he won't hang us out to dry like that. Trust him.

DD4S 01-24-2018 10:39 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MessiD10s (Post 680746)
Durbin knows they have a deal, he won't hang us out to dry like that. Trust him.

When we do get our GC. I will travel to Washington and shake that man's hand.

Copper 01-24-2018 10:40 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MessiD10s (Post 680746)
Durbin knows they have a deal, he won't hang us out to dry like that. Trust him.

Is not the senate I don’t trust. Is the White House and House GOP.

MessiD10s 01-24-2018 10:41 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 680748)
Is not the senate I don’t trust. Is the White House and House GOP.

If Trump blesses it, which he will, the house GOP will have no choice.

FarikoXpress 01-24-2018 10:42 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
They sitll want the end of chain migration? Thats the big sticking point for Dems now

Copper 01-24-2018 10:50 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MessiD10s (Post 680749)
If Trump blesses it, which he will, the house GOP will have no choice.

The key will be has long has he doesn’t change his MIND, in which he has a record of that.

Afridi786 01-24-2018 10:51 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MessiD10s (Post 680746)
Durbin knows they have a deal, he won't hang us out to dry like that. Trust him.

I doubt it. We'll see the same old back and forth BS when WH unveils their plans.

skysla 01-24-2018 10:54 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
As long as the likes of Stephen Miller, Tom Cotton, and John Kelly influence Trump, it will be difficult to reach a deal... I doubt their "plan" or "framework" will be much different from what they already released last month.

catportal 01-24-2018 11:19 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
We are fucked

dreamer__13 01-24-2018 11:33 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catportal (Post 680770)
We are fucked

It’s ok. We’ll bring a wooden chair leg for you to bite on. Won’t make the pain any less worse but at least you won’t be screaming like a biatch.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-24-2018 11:35 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
I am not too optimistic anymore. If something good happens for us then so be it but this roller coaster is seriously stressing me out. I am done checking the news every hour.

Rida980 01-25-2018 12:08 AM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 680782)
I am not too optimistic anymore. If something good happens for us then so be it but this roller coaster is seriously stressing me out. I am not checking the news every hour.

Wanted to do that many times but still end up visiting this forum every few minutes.

zaya0914 01-25-2018 01:38 AM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rida980 (Post 680810)
Wanted to do that many times but still end up visiting this forum every few minutes.

lol same here :lol:

Cybore 01-25-2018 02:11 AM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaya0914 (Post 680868)
lol same here :lol:

I'm just here for the roller coaster pics.

Red neck 01-25-2018 09:46 AM

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Red neck 01-25-2018 09:49 AM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
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Originally Posted by Cybore (Post 680873)
I'm just here for the roller coaster pics.

https://media.giphy.com/media/SrmLZIT3S8oFO/giphy.gif

KiwiFlavor 01-25-2018 09:58 AM

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Red neck 01-25-2018 11:12 AM

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FarikoXpress 01-25-2018 11:24 AM

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Chad gives good updates

FLDreamerrr 01-25-2018 12:08 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Chad should join th forums

eva02 01-25-2018 01:38 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Send ya renewals!!!!!

ceaguila 01-25-2018 01:44 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Bipartisan Senators immigration meeting wraps up. Here’s who we saw go in: via @FrankThorp

Collins
Isakson
Donnelly
Feinstein
Graham
Manchin
Shaheen
Kaine
Flake
Warner
Gardner
Hassan
Nelson
Coons
Rubio
Peters
Lankford
Tillis
Heitkamp
Rounds
Klobuchar
Jones
King
Alexander

Gpood list I guess but we need some progressives in the group..

DreamerSD23 01-25-2018 02:29 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 681012)
Bipartisan Senators immigration meeting wraps up. Here’s who we saw go in: via @FrankThorp

Collins
Isakson
Donnelly
Feinstein
Graham
Manchin
Shaheen
Kaine
Flake
Warner
Gardner
Hassan
Nelson
Coons
Rubio
Peters
Lankford
Tillis
Heitkamp
Rounds
Klobuchar
Jones
King
Alexander

Gpood list I guess but we need some progressives in the group..

No Durbin :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: ?

FLDreamerrr 01-25-2018 02:34 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 681085)
No Durbin :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: ?

It’s republican’t only

NotADreamerPerSe 01-25-2018 02:35 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 681097)
It’s republican’t only

So much for bipartisanship.

catportal 01-25-2018 02:36 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 681097)
It’s republican’t only

mmm Shitlatte :p

SEPT 06 01-25-2018 02:36 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
No, Kaine and Jones are not Republicans.

DreamerSD23 01-25-2018 02:37 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 681097)
It’s republican’t only

I can't tell if this was a joke or not, half of the list is Democrats, but why no Big Dick Durbin?

VJB2 01-25-2018 02:37 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 681097)
It’s republican’t only

No, it isn’t. It’s bipartisan.

BeansDreamtoo21 01-25-2018 02:39 PM

Re: Budget breakthrough in reach, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand
 
The fuck is Marco Rubio doing there.


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