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jaylove16 02-01-2018 11:58 AM

GOP leader: Congress may settle for pared-down immigration deal
 
Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Thune (S.D.) says that congressional negotiators may settle on a slimmed-down immigration deal that leaves aside some of President Trump’s priorities.

Thune said Congress may wind up passing a bill to protect illegal immigrants known as Dreamers from deportation in exchange for more money for border security.

Under this scenario, Trump’s demand that Congress limit immigration preferences for non-nuclear family members and end the diversity visa lottery program would be set aside for a later debate.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...migration-deal

Just give us the ability to travel.

dreamer__13 02-01-2018 12:00 PM

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Yea I just want to be able to continue working. The ability to travel would be cool.

IbelieveIcanFly 02-01-2018 12:01 PM

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I'm so frustrated that I will take any fix now honestly...

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-01-2018 12:02 PM

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DACa law + ability to travel and border security would make everyone happy

DACAgogue 02-01-2018 12:13 PM

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A little part of me hopes they'll say we can't sponsor our parents and sneak in a 3 year permit for them. At this rate, any relief for them will come in 30 years

JJ Glo 02-01-2018 12:15 PM

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It needs to be enough "border security" money in order for Trump to be able to call it Wall funding or it ain't passing.

Charolastra 02-01-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DACAgogue (Post 684872)
A little part of me hopes they'll say we can't sponsor our parents and sneak in a 3 year permit for them. At this rate, any relief for them will come in 30 years

Our parents will likely be dead in 30 years

catportal 02-01-2018 12:19 PM

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Can they just allow us to adjust? Like let our companies sponsor?

Charolastra 02-01-2018 12:19 PM

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Actually, we might all be dead in 30 years if these world governments don't stop fucking arounf

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 12:20 PM

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I'd be happy with a renewable 3 year DACA + the ability to cement travelling without any deep scrutiny or reason. They can shove their citizenship up their ass, I'll get it someday but hopefully from another 1st world country.

Will Never Forget...

Now if only I could scrap my military contract...

VeryNicePerson1 02-01-2018 12:22 PM

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Dang, no more citizenship path then huh?

Meh...but anyway...as long as they get something done, and it is reasonable, then I am all for it.

Smooth 02-01-2018 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 684881)
Dang, no more citizenship path then huh?

Meh...but anyway...as long as they get something done, and it is reasonable, then I am all for it.

Same here. Fuck it.

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 684883)
Same here. Fuck it.

I guess my only compromise is to include all the Dreamers to it ( aged-out and atleast 2012 arrivals)

dreamer__13 02-01-2018 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 684886)
I guess my only compromise is to include all the Dreamers to it ( aged-out and atleast 2012 arrivals)

Nice to see that you’re a reformed hoe with a heart now.

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 684890)
Nice to see that you’re a reformed hoe with a heart now.

I miss that pony, he used to be my buddy.

Busybee 02-01-2018 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 684886)
I guess my only compromise is to include all the Dreamers to it ( aged-out and atleast 2012 arrivals)

Yes, I hope our older folks get included too. It wouldn't be fair to leave them in limbo when they started this fight.

Also, I feel like if the dreamer community showed acceptance towards other alternatives that aren't necessarily a path to citizenship (renewable bridge act with free travel) it would probably make us seem less entitled in the eyes of those conservatives that do not want us here.

Trust me, I want a path to citizenship as well, but I will be happy with just being given the chance to get out of this limbo and live my life in peace.

Red neck 02-01-2018 12:45 PM

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I rather it include aged out dreamers rather than new people after 2012

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Busybee (Post 684896)
Yes, I hope our older folks get included too. It wouldn't be fair to leave them in limbo when they started this fight.

Also, I feel like if the dreamer community showed acceptance towards other alternatives that aren't necessarily a path to citizenship (renewable bridge act with free travel) it would probably make us seem less entitled in the eyes of those conservatives that do not want us here.

Trust me, I want a path to citizenship as well, but I will be happy with just being given the chance to get out of this limbo and live my life in peace.

Exactly, just wanted to live in peace, heck I will even buy a house to support this country. Just give us the chance...

Michcio07 02-01-2018 12:50 PM

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If we can't travel fuck them. If they give us conditional green cards for fucking ever who gives a fuck lets get that done....

fl_dreamer 02-01-2018 12:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 684899)
I rather it include aged out dreamers rather than new people after 2012

What he said.

ladreamer1998 02-01-2018 01:24 PM

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At this point renewable bridge act paired with border security seems reasonable. We can just wait on a future admin to legalize us.

CUSenior 02-01-2018 01:49 PM

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I don't see Democrats voting for a Bridge Act without it being a clean Bridge Act. Even the spineless Dems wouldn't want to give Trump a win which he would get because they would likely attach the wall. Trump would get to say that he fixed DACA and got his wall while Dems would face the wrath of their base and liberal groups.

Marco956 02-01-2018 01:49 PM

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I'm sure a lot of us would find a way to AOS at some point anyway. Either through marriage or job sponsorship.

We just need time and security. I'm ok with no path to citizenship

kidcomesback 02-01-2018 01:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 684880)
I'd be happy with a renewable 3 year DACA + the ability to cement travelling without any deep scrutiny or reason. They can shove their citizenship up their ass, I'll get it someday but hopefully from another 1st world country.

Will Never Forget...

Now if only I could scrap my military contract...

hey, i'm in the same boat as you, i think. i'm in the Reserves, been there for more than a year. i'm actually trying to cancel my contract, but my recruiters keep pushing me. now, ii stopped responding to them. my CI interview was yesterday, and i didn't go. getting a bunch of calls from the recruiters now, but just sending them to voicemail.

all this to say that there is a way to terminate if you really want to. probably not the ideal way to go about doing it, but it's a way.

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 684927)
hey, i'm in the same boat as you, i think. i'm in the Reserves, been there for more than a year. i'm actually trying to cancel my contract, but my recruiters keep pushing me. now, ii stopped responding to them. my CI interview was yesterday, and i didn't go. getting a bunch of calls from the recruiters now, but just sending them to voicemail.

all this to say that there is a way to terminate if you really want to. probably not the ideal way to go about doing it, but it's a way.

Hey, I am glad I am not the only one. This whole Army BS is becoming a pain in the ass now. I have a career and school and these enlisted morons will just all of a sudden call me and order me to come and sign paper during the last minute. I am sick and tired of these no-good welfare loving morons.

DamLeon123 02-01-2018 02:54 PM

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I'll desperately take anything as long as I can work. They can shove citizenship up thier ass too. I'll get it eventually via my mom who is a citizen and has applied for me.

kidcomesback 02-01-2018 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 684938)
Hey, I am glad I am not the only one. This whole Army BS is becoming a pain in the ass now. I have a career and school and these enlisted morons will just all of a sudden call me and order me to come and sign paper during the last minute. I am sick and tired of these no-good welfare loving morons.

Yep, same here. I've used enough of my vacation hours to deal with their last minute requests only to not hear anything for months after. I figure I've wasted more time dealing with them than it's worth. It's really hard to cancel, and they'll pretty much beg you and peer pressure you into staying. They key is to stand your ground and not let them affect your thoughts.

Sorrybrah 02-01-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 684959)
Yep, same here. I've used enough of my vacation hours to deal with their last minute requests only to not hear anything for months after. I figure I've wasted more time dealing with them than it's worth. It's really hard to cancel, and they'll pretty much beg you and peer pressure you into staying. They key is to stand your ground and not let them affect your thoughts.

My only concern is that it might negatively affect our records when applying for jobs, it's unfair because its not our fault that they delayed us causing undoable harm.

meehx3 02-01-2018 06:24 PM

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I’m tired. Just decide on something and let’s move on.

Swim19 02-01-2018 06:26 PM

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@ChadPergram
McConnell says he doesn’t think there will be another gov’t shutdown. Says “there will be a new level of seriousness.” Ryan says interim spending bill is only to give Apps Cmte time to write a lony term spending bill

libertarian1776 02-01-2018 06:44 PM

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Skinny-DACA aka Skinny-Repeal!

FAKE DEADLINE: Due to court ruling that blocked the rescission of DACA, the March 5 deadline is not really a deadline. DACA remains in effect for now unless Supreme Court was to quickly throw out the district court ruling before March, which is unlikely.
-@lawrencehurley

Swim19 02-01-2018 06:59 PM

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@shermancourt
DACA case formally added to Supreme Court's 2/16 private conference. #SCOTUS

@GregStohr
Greg Stohr Retweeted Mark Sherman
Court in theory could say that day that it’s taking up the case. A denial could happen on the 2/20 orders list.

libertarian1776 02-01-2018 07:02 PM

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so SCOTUS gonna strike down the 9th circuit injunction?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 685079)
@shermancourt
DACA case formally added to Supreme Court's 2/16 private conference. #SCOTUS

@GregStohr
Greg Stohr Retweeted Mark Sherman
Court in theory could say that day that it’s taking up the case. A denial could happen on the 2/20 orders list.


2MoreYears 02-01-2018 07:04 PM

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Wow that was quick. I remember some saying it would take at least 6 months.

Swim19 02-01-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 685080)
so SCOTUS gonna strike down the 9th circuit injunction?

I think the Feb 16th conference is just to see if SCOTUS will take up the case. So they denial they are talking about is if the take the case. I could be wrong, so if anyone else knows, please chime in.

libertarian1776 02-01-2018 07:07 PM

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the people you just retweeted and other SCOTUS reporters said that the March 5th deadline isnt really real anymore. there is no DACA deadline.

so idk who to believe, but i think 2/16 is to take it up and look into it and by 2/20 they make a decision on either to take and expedite it or deny it and have it go till Summer/Fall.

FAKE DEADLINE: Due to court ruling that blocked the rescission of DACA, the March 5 deadline is not really a deadline. DACA remains in effect for now unless Supreme Court was to quickly throw out the district court ruling before March, which is unlikely
-@lawrencehurley SCOTUS Reporter

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 685083)
I think the Feb 16th conference is just to see if SCOTUS will take up the case. So they denial they are talking about is if the take the case. Does anyone else know?


Swim19 02-01-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 685084)
the people you just retweeted and other SCOTUS reporters said that the March 5th deadline isnt really real anymore. there is no DACA deadline.

so idk who to believe, but i think 2/16 is to take it up and look into it and btw 2/20 is either to take it or deny it?

Yes, people can renew, but renewals takes times. So those who expire March 6th probablly aren't going to get their new EAD in time. That means thousands of DREAMers will be without protection for at least some portion of time. And then there's the possiblity renewals will be stopped by the court. So it's an excuse for inaction by Congress by saying there is no deadline anymore.

libertarian1776 02-01-2018 07:14 PM

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im trying to contact the SCOTUS reporters.

Court in theory could say that day that it’s taking up the case. A denial could happen on the 2/20 orders list.

i believe the 2/20 is not a ruling to strike down the 9th circuit injunction but a decision if they will take the case and expedite it. but based on their tweets, they say it will be denied and it will go on till Summer/Fall.


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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 685086)
Yes, people can renew, but renewals takes times. So those who expire March 6th probablly aren't going to get their new EAD in time. That means thousands of DREAMers will be without protection for at least some portion of time. And then there's the possiblity renewals will be stopped by the court. So it's an excuse for inaction by Congress by saying there is no deadline anymore.


Swim19 02-01-2018 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 685088)
im trying to contact the SCOTUS reporters.

Court in theory could say that day that it’s taking up the case. A denial could happen on the 2/20 orders list.

i believe the 2/20 is not a ruling to strike down the 9th circuit injunction but a decision if they will take the case and expedite it. but based on their tweets, they say it will be denied and it will go on till Summer/Fall.

Update us if you hear back from the SCOTUS reporters.

vft1008 02-01-2018 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 685088)
im trying to contact the SCOTUS reporters.

Court in theory could say that day that it’s taking up the case. A denial could happen on the 2/20 orders list.

i believe the 2/20 is not a ruling to strike down the 9th circuit injunction but a decision if they will take the case and expedite it. but based on their tweets, they say it will be denied and it will go on till Summer/Fall.

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