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jaylove16 02-10-2018 01:27 AM

Suspect in fatal nw houston store shooting in u.s. Under daca program
 
The shooting happened outside DJ's Food Mart in northwest Harris County on Jan. 26.

Investigators believe Deluna got into a fight with a man in the parking lot and retrieved a gun from his vehicle. He then returned to shoot him. Rupani, whose father owns the store, was inside. He came to the shooting victim's aid and was shot, too. Rupani had two young children and a wife.

After three weeks on the run, Eyewitness News has learned Deluna is in the United States under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. He is undocumented, a so-called Dreamer.

https://www.google.com/amp/abc13.com...ogram/3060796/

These characters are the dumbest of dumbest smh.

VJB2 02-10-2018 01:28 AM

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The end.

TonyM203 02-10-2018 01:31 AM

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Ohhh here we go, fox news lives for headlines like this.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-10-2018 01:34 AM

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Fucking idiot

IbelieveIcanFly 02-10-2018 01:34 AM

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Lovely. One incident can't be used for generalization tho. If it was a mass shooting perhaps

DreamerSD23 02-10-2018 01:35 AM

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The fuck man.

This shit is going to be on Fox News news banner 24 hours every day for the next 3 months.

paperneedpaper 02-10-2018 01:35 AM

Re: Suspect in fatal nw houston store shooting in u.s. Under daca program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 688080)
The shooting happened outside DJ's Food Mart in northwest Harris County on Jan. 26.

Investigators believe Deluna got into a fight with a man in the parking lot and retrieved a gun from his vehicle. He then returned to shoot him. Rupani, whose father owns the store, was inside. He came to the shooting victim's aid and was shot, too. Rupani had two young children and a wife.

After three weeks on the run, Eyewitness News has learned Deluna is in the United States under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. He is undocumented, a so-called Dreamer.

https://www.google.com/amp/abc13.com...ogram/3060796/

These characters are the dumbest of dumbest smh.


Really curious, but what is the point of posting this here?

DreamerSD23 02-10-2018 01:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IbelieveIcanFly (Post 688085)
Lovely. One incident can't be used for generalization tho. If it was a mass shooting perhaps

Fox News will happily prove you wrong.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-10-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by paperneedpaper (Post 688087)
Really curious, but what is the point of posting this here?

Debate is next week.

paperneedpaper 02-10-2018 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 688089)
Debate is next week.

There were more incidents in the past like this one. If someone wants to use this story in his/her debate, then he/she can use other incidents in the past as well. Nothing really new, and knowing and advertising this kind of news seems to have no purpose.

legendver2 02-10-2018 01:45 AM

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Fuck this guy. Dafuq he thinking?!?

Copper 02-10-2018 01:45 AM

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We are so quick to post the negative news yet we ignore the positive ones!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...s-to-end-daca/

Smooth 02-10-2018 01:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paperneedpaper (Post 688090)
There were more incidents in the past like this one. If someone wants to use this story in his/her debate, then he/she can use other incidents in the past as well. Nothing really new, and knowing and advertising this kind of news seems to have no purpose.

Partially agree.

Nothing new. We have heard of other bad stories. But, the purpose of this can be to show that some immigrants are bad enough to throw under the bus.

How can you defend this, really?

paperneedpaper 02-10-2018 01:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 688093)
Partially agree.

Nothing new. We have heard of other bad stories. But, the purpose of this can be to show that some immigrants are bad enough to throw under the bus.

How can you defend this, really?

We all know there is NO perfect program that separates all good guys and all bad guys. Even after the new permanent solution becomes a law, it will still contain some bad immigrants. In that sense, DACA is just one of such programs. Democrats want a lenient version of an immigration reform and GOP want a stricter version, and they will eventually make their deal somewhere between two versions.

Smooth 02-10-2018 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paperneedpaper (Post 688096)
We all know there is NO perfect program that separates all good guys and all bad guys. Even after the new permanent solution becomes a law, it will still contain some bad immigrants. In that sense, DACA is just one of such programs. Democrats want a lenient version of an immigration reform and GOP want a stricter version, and they will eventually make their deal somewhere between two versions.

I agree with you.

tf2legend 02-10-2018 02:06 AM

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800,000 under Daca, there is going to be some idiots

PhelonOne87 02-10-2018 02:07 AM

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He was undocumented and un-afraid lmaooooo sorry had too

Sorrybrah 02-10-2018 02:11 AM

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Another mexi... nevermind. Good and bad apples amirite?

DexterV 02-10-2018 02:17 AM

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But he is a US citizen -- not daca . He comes from a mexi... family I think . He is from Texas.

jorgeag92 02-10-2018 06:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paperneedpaper (Post 688096)
We all know there is NO perfect program that separates all good guys and all bad guys. Even after the new permanent solution becomes a law, it will still contain some bad immigrants. In that sense, DACA is just one of such programs. Democrats want a lenient version of an immigration reform and GOP want a stricter version, and they will eventually make their deal somewhere between two versions.

Unless they set a certain standard to be able to apply for daca or whatever they come up with e.g must have a college degree and/or proof a good moral standing. That's why some of those bills being introduced don't let us apply for citizenship for 12 years. Residency is easier to rescind if one of us commits a crime during those 12 years

versailles 02-10-2018 06:50 AM

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this is what happens when applications are just rammed through without properly vetting people like this.

versailles 02-10-2018 06:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 688100)
Another mexi... nevermind. Good and bad apples amirite?

of course, when you're from a country as irrelevant as the phillipines, you're not used to countries being paid attention to, but let's take your post seriously for a minute, because why not.

mexicans make up 78% of daca, how many crimes have you seen been commited by daca beneficiaries in total? and did you even bother checking the circumstances of them?
no, of course not, because you wanted to point out something meant to stir shit up, yadda yadda.

libertarian1776 02-10-2018 07:33 AM

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how can we vet Dreamers from potentially committing a crime in the future?

do u think that DACA should have more strict requirements?

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688109)
this is what happens when applications are just rammed through without properly vetting people like this.


versailles 02-10-2018 07:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 688112)
how can we vet Dreamers from potentially committing a crime in the future?

do u think that DACA should have more strict requirements?

i was referring to the when where they were pressured to accept applicants that sometimes didn't properly meet the requirements.

libertarian1776 02-10-2018 07:44 AM

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how do u think this guy did not meet requirements, do you think that he had a felony or a had a past run in with the law on his application and they still accepted him?

i mean they denied thousands of people that applied to DACA. im not sure if theres a question in our application "do you plan to commit a crime in the future?" even if there was, do u really think he was gonna put Yes? lol

i mean its kinda sketchy, the guy's name is Judas. i would look twice too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688113)
i was referring to the when where they were pressured to accept applicants that sometimes didn't properly meet the requirements.


versailles 02-10-2018 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 688114)
how do u think this guy did not meet requirements, do you think that he had a felony or a had a past run in with the law on his application and they still accepted him?

i mean they denied thousands of people that applied to DACA. im not sure if theres a question in our application "do you plan to commit a crime in the future?" even if there was, do u really think he was gonna put Yes? lol

i mean its kinda sketchy, the guy's name is Judas. i would look twice too.

yes, he probably did.
the whole family is filled with bad seeds, i don't even want them in mexico, send them to central america where they can be the criminals they want to be.

libertarian1776 02-10-2018 08:00 AM

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shit man idk about probably...

we can all assume, shit... Pianoswithoutfaith probably would commit a crime and i bet his family is filled with "bad seeds." just like him. lmaoooo but still we can't go by that standard.

tbh, i bet we got a lot of "bad hombres" in this forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688115)
yes, he probably did.
the whole family is filled with bad seeds, i don't even want them in mexico, send them to central america where they can be the criminals they want to be.


versailles 02-10-2018 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 688117)
shit man idk about probably...

we can all assume, shit... Pianoswithoutfaith probably would commit a crime and i bet his family is filled with "bad seeds." just like him. lmaoooo but still we can't go by that standard.

tbh, i bet we got a lot of "bad hombres" in this forum.


the point is, mishandling the application process is stupid because it leads to people like this damaging DACA's image.

we have very few hombres here, period.
too many whiners and weak-spirited people. their ancestors would be ashamed, america has made you weak.

fl_dreamer 02-10-2018 08:14 AM

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This hits home! Rupani (victim) family is a friend of a friends. Never thought I would read about something so close to home on DAP!

People like that should be deported right away. Fucking it up for everyone!

EDIT: look at his family history with father and brother. In instances like this, Can’t blame republicans for wanting to kick illegals out.

libertarian1776 02-10-2018 08:19 AM

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no bro, America has made us (Dreamers) strong. legalization or not, we can survive anywhere in the world. we were built here, our stories wouldnt be possible anywhere else as illegals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688118)

we have very few hombres here, period.
too many whiners and weak-spirited people. their ancestors would be ashamed, america has made you weak.


versailles 02-10-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 688120)
no bro, America has made us (Dreamers) strong. legalization or not, we can survive anywhere in the world. we were built here, our stories wouldnt be possible anywhere else as illegals.

i sincerely doubt that, have you seen how much some people here whine when the slightest thing makes them concerned?

TechnoElectro 02-10-2018 08:22 AM

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This is how the wild wild west was. This guy definitely exihibits qualities of being a true American.

Chilango_Tejano 02-10-2018 08:56 AM

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Look at his fucking face he looks like a thug

OMEG 02-10-2018 09:32 AM

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Conservatives will use stories like this to criminalize us, if you can compare past minorities struggle with ours the government will try to use the story and paint that image of us crazy and criminal. Both parties will seat their asses there and make a point with stories like this. We still need to keep putting pressure this Monday and hold them accountable if they think they can use stories like this against us or we are going to have to take their jobs. Democrats will follow conservatives if they feel threaten they will try to be more centrist

Swim19 02-10-2018 10:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688109)
this is what happens when applications are just rammed through without properly vetting people like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 688112)
how can we vet Dreamers from potentially committing a crime in the future?

do u think that DACA should have more strict requirements?

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 688113)
i was referring to the when where they were pressured to accept applicants that sometimes didn't properly meet the requirements.

No vetted properly? We are vetted every two years! The only people claiming we aren't vetted properly and that the applications were 'rammed through' are breitbart, national review, number usa ect. I don't know where you are getting this information from, but it is not from legitimate sources.

moto 02-10-2018 11:08 AM

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There will always be some bad apples. Problem is when lunatics at UWD start campaigning for thugs like these too

OMEG 02-10-2018 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moto (Post 688143)
There will always be some bad apples. Problem is when lunatics at UWD start campaigning for thugs like these too

UWD might be doing that and that is because they are distracted and not well organized, UWD will become obsolete if they start doing what Democrats always do, bending over to appease. They will come around to their senses, we just got to flip them around

versailles 02-10-2018 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 688131)
No vetted properly? We are vetted every two years! The only people claiming we aren't vetted properly and that the applications were 'rammed through' are breitbart, national review, number usa ect. I don't know where you are getting this information from, but it is not from legitimate sources.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...als-directive/

"In a series of agency memos beginning in September 14, 2012, field offices were told to expect the National Benefits Center (which collects all DACA applications) to conduct only “lean & lite” background checks on illegal alien applicants, and that, henceforth, “NBC will not perform full TECS checks or any evidence review on these cases before we ship to the field.” An October 14 memo reiterated that under the new “lean and lite” policy, “Hits will be sent to the field without resolution.” On October 25, the St. Paul Field Director conceded to staffers that the new “lean & lite” procedures were for an indefinite period of time, saying, “I just can’t tell you when things will revert back to the way they used to be.”

Copper 02-10-2018 03:04 PM

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A Dreamer can have a clean record and then go on to commit something like this. Vetting is not an issue, unfortunately we can’t prevent stuff like this from happening.

Saying that extreme vetting is going to stop stuff like this from ever happening again is like saying a wall it’s going to stop all illegal immigration, no it won’t.

versailles 02-10-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 688184)
A Dreamer can have a clean record and then go on to commit something like this. Vetting is not an issue, unfortunately we can’t prevent stuff like this from happening.

Saying that extreme vetting is going to stop stuff like this from ever happening again is like saying a wall it’s going to stop all illegal immigration, no it won’t.

"vetting is not an issue"
i clearly just showed you that there were problems with it.
and a wall does help stop illegal immigration. how would it not help?


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