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2Face 02-13-2018 07:00 PM

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This looks like an awesome plan by Flake! Pass it ASAP!

If Democrats oppose this, they can go to hell. BOTH sides are going to have to come to the middle. DV Lottery has to out! Chain Migration is where both sides are going to have to cooperate with each other!

Copper 02-13-2018 07:02 PM

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This makes way too much sense for every Democrat and hardcore Republicans.

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:02 PM

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Daddy Flake ❤

ladreamer1998 02-13-2018 07:03 PM

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It also includes aged out dreamers.

Sorrybrah 02-13-2018 07:04 PM

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Why the hell did I even join this stupid MAVNI program if this thing would pass? Sigh.

JayR9 02-13-2018 07:04 PM

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I don't like the increase in judges and ICE personnel but I can get behind it since they are only getting 1.8 B a year.

Cybore 02-13-2018 07:04 PM

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That's a good bill. In terms of compromise, this is the best I can see passing.

FLDreamerrr 02-13-2018 07:05 PM

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So did he change the requirements for daca people?
You either gotta have a college degree or go to the military but can’t be working full time ?

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:06 PM

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Somebody has to get this to Trump and get his approval so the rest of the Republicans will say yes.

Somebody other than Flake, since Trump doesnt like him

catportal 02-13-2018 07:07 PM

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Can anyone fully explain line 2 of the Chain Migration section?

Lambo Mercy 02-13-2018 07:08 PM

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Man stop getting me excited lol

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 689414)
Can anyone fully explain line 2 of the Chain Migration section?

We wouldnt be able to sponsor our parents. Thats it.

catportal 02-13-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfredo93 (Post 689417)
We wouldnt be able to sponsor our parents. Thats it.

We or everyone? Explain.

MessiD10s 02-13-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 689411)
So did he change the requirements for daca people?
You either gotta have a college degree or go to the military but can’t be working full time ?

I.T says You gotta be currently enrolled not finished your degree.

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 689418)
We or everyone? Explain.

Damn reading it again it seems like it limits chain migration for everyone.

FLDreamerrr 02-13-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MessiD10s (Post 689419)
I.T says You gotta be currently enrolled not finished your degree.

So if you’re currently not enrolled only working full time you wouldn’t qualify ?

JayR9 02-13-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 689418)
We or everyone? Explain.

Just us. Other folks that are legalized through different means will still be able to.

catportal 02-13-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 689422)
Just us. Other folks that are legalized through different means will still be able to.

Based on what? The text doesn't specify. While we have GCs or after we become citizens? You can't limit rights for certain set of citizens.

Michcio07 02-13-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 689414)
Can anyone fully explain line 2 of the Chain Migration section?

Who gives a flying fuck. seriously

Please print it vote, sign it stamp it, give me my GC. K thx

BeansDreamtoo21 02-13-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 689425)
Who gives a flying fuck. seriously

Please print it vote, sign it stamp it, give me my GC. K thx

Would you like a make America great again cap with your order sir?

thedream 02-13-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 689422)
Just us. Other folks that are legalized through different means will still be able to.

This is not what it says.

Nobody would be able to sponsor their parents, not even current US citizens. This provision is probably the biggest sticking point between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats won't accept a bill that eliminates this

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 689422)
Just us. Other folks that are legalized through different means will still be able to.

but it says LIMITS FAMILY BASED IMMIGRATION TO SPOUSES AND CHILDREN

It doesnt clarify whether thats for us, or U.S. citizens as well, unlike the top line.

2Face 02-13-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 689425)
Who gives a flying fuck. seriously

Please print it vote, sign it stamp it, give me my GC. K thx

I know lol...Fuck chain migration. Make Dreamers legal again! That should be number 1 priority. My parents don't want to become legal anymore. They want just my sister and I to get legalized asap.

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 689430)
I know lol...Fuck chain migration. Make Dreamers legal again! That should be number 1 priority. My parents don't want to become legal anymore. They want just my sister and I to get legalized asap.

Whether you want it or not, democrats definately dont want it.

thedream 02-13-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 689430)
I know lol...Fuck chain migration. Make Dreamers legal again! That should be number 1 priority. My parents don't want to become legal anymore. They want just my sister and I to get legalized asap.

To be frank, Democrats don't really care about your parents either.

But they want America to gain more minority citizens because they tend to vote blue. They're not gonna sacrifice that advantage for DACA.

catportal 02-13-2018 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream (Post 689434)
To be frank, Democrats don't really care about your parents either.

But they want America to gain more minority citizens because they tend to vote blue. They're not gonna sacrifice that advantage for DACA.

Trump's plan doesn't limit that for 10+ years. If Dems believe they will have a majority by then, they could just change the laws within that time period.

johnfreyan 02-13-2018 07:19 PM

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WTF? This is word-for-word what Trump wants. And fuck you all who thinks scrapping immigration as a whole is okay as long as you get yours. You're just as bad as Michelle Malkins, Stephen Miller, and 2nd generation immigrant Trump himself.

Alfredo93 02-13-2018 07:19 PM

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So this is basically the White House proposal?

VJB2 02-13-2018 07:19 PM

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Let's do this.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-13-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by johnfreyan (Post 689438)
WTF? This is word-for-word what Trump wants. And fuck you all who thinks scrapping immigration as a whole is okay as long as you get yours. You're just as bad as Michelle Malkins, Stephen Miller, and 2nd generation immigrant Trump himself.

I'm guessing you are about to be legal by other means and you have a brother or sister who will soon sponsor your parents and you don't want them to remove chain migration. Am I correct sir?

thedream 02-13-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 689436)
Trump's plan doesn't limit that for 10+ years. If Dems believe they will have a majority by then, they could just change the laws within that time period.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Trump's plan absolutely does.

Parent sponsorship does not have a cap currently. The white house wants to remove this category. This will reduce the number of immigrants who become citizens by millions

ceaguila 02-13-2018 07:22 PM

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This has to be applied only to Dreamers because yesterday Flake said he opposed overall legal cuts

Michcio07 02-13-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by johnfreyan (Post 689438)
WTF? This is word-for-word what Trump wants. And fuck you all who thinks scrapping immigration as a whole is okay as long as you get yours. You're just as bad as Michelle Malkins, Stephen Miller, and 2nd generation immigrant Trump himself.

OK i guess I live in a world and you live in alt reality where everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya. One thing I learned is that you take what you are given and do as much as possible with that. So that is what I want. I want to take what is given to me which is GC / Citizenship and later fight for my parents. You can't have everything in this world.

JayR9 02-13-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream (Post 689428)
This is not what it says.

Nobody would be able to sponsor their parents, not even current US citizens. This provision is probably the biggest sticking point between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats won't accept a bill that eliminates this

I guess we can wait for the full text for clarification. I'm not on board if it fucks up chain migration for everyone else. I'm okay with the limitation to be on just us.

dreamer__13 02-13-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 689443)
This has to be applied only to Dreamers because yesterday Flake said he opposed overall legal cuts

Yea I’m confused.

thedream 02-13-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 689443)
This has to be applied only to Dreamers because yesterday Flake said he opposed overall legal cuts

No, because there is not a constitutional way to do this. The only thing you'd be able to do is prevent dreamers from sponsoring their parents until they become citizens. Once you gain citizenship, they can't have a different set of rules for us.

ElBorra2 02-13-2018 07:29 PM

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This bill doesnt legalize us dreamers that are currently working but are not attending college or are in the military.

Quiescent 02-13-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 689444)
OK i guess I live in a world and you live in alt reality where everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya. One thing I learned is that you take what you are given and do as much as possible with that. So that is what I want. I want to take what is given to me which is GC / Citizenship and later fight for my parents. You can't have everything in this world.


Stop it! You're making too much sense!

dtrt09 02-13-2018 07:30 PM

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Where is the official txt for this?

JayR9 02-13-2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ElBorra2 (Post 689457)
This bill doesnt legalize us dreamers that are currently working but are not attending college or are in the military.

Online college degree from University of Phoenix bro.


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