Senate Immigration Debate Ends in Failure
 

Senate immigration debate ends in failure
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/15/immigration-daca-senate-412459

A bipartisan Dreamer plan and Trump’s proposal were both defeated.
By ELANA SCHOR and BURGESS EVERETT
02/15/2018 10:24 AM EST
Updated 02/15/2018 04:40 PM EST

The Senate's much-hyped immigration debate ended in a megaflop on Thursday.

Every proposal that got considered fell short of the Senate's 60-vote threshold, leaving the undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers in limbo and lawmakers with nothing to show for weeks of negotiations.

A bipartisan agreement was rejected 54-45, after a furious White House campaign to defeat it, including a Thursday veto threat. It would have given an estimated 1.8 million undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship while spending $25 billion on border security.

In the end, only eight Republicans joined all but three Democrats in support of the proposal.

“It’s a pig in a poke,” Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.), a close ally of President Donald Trump, said of the bipartisan bill.

But in a blow to Trump, a GOP amendment to enshrine his four-part immigration framework, including cuts to legal immigration, was defeated by an even wider margin — 39-60.

The upshot is stalemate, despite long-running negotiations, particularly among the bipartisan group of mostly moderate senators.

Two other amendments were also rejected: a narrower plan with no border wall funding from Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.) on a 52-47 vote, and a sanctuary cities measure from Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) on a 54-45 vote.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) opened the day with a round of partisan sniping, signaling the probable failure of both the Trump framework and the bipartisan plan.

“Remember: Democrats wanted this debate," McConnell said on the Senate floor. "They shut down the federal government for 300 million Americans — unnecessarily — to guarantee we could have this debate at this time."

But in the end, McConnell added, Democrats haven't mustered "a single proposal that gives us a realistic chance to make law — that is, pass the Senate, pass the House, and earn the president’s signature."

Schumer directed his frustration at the White House for its campaign to derail the bipartisan immigration deal, accusing Trump of being unwilling to compromise.

"That's not how democracy works," Schumer said. "You don't get 100 percent of what you want in a democracy."

The White House's veto threat against the bipartisan agreement singled out its language directing enforcement officers to, when it comes to the removal of undocumented immigrants who have broken no other laws, prioritize individuals who arrived in the country after June 30, 2018. That policy would "produce a flood of new illegal immigration in the coming months," the White House warned.

The Republican amendment executing the White House's plan was last in the lineup, but supporters of the bipartisan group's proposal had hoped to see their amendment come last in order to corral the highest possible numbers of supporters.

The order of the amendments may turn out to prove crucial, Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said before the vote. Flake, a supporter of the bipartisan language, told reporters Wednesday that it "can get 60" but "I'm not sure it will."

The Trump administration stepped up its resistance to the bipartisan immigration amendment overnight, with the Department of Homeland Security releasing a comment blasting it as "an egregious violation of" the president's four-part framework that would create "mass amnesty."

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a supporter of the bipartisan proposal, slammed DHS on Thursday for "acting less like a partner and more like an adversary."

"Instead of offering thoughts and advice — or even constructive criticism — they are acting more like a political organization intent on poisoning the well," Graham said in a statement.

A DHS official said that according to internal analyses, the bill could actually give a pathway to citizenship for more than 3 million young immigrants.

The White House has been telling Republican senators that it expects the Supreme Court to overturn the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling extending protections for undocumented immigrants under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The implication is that what is now an indefinite grace period would quickly disappear — and that Democrats would be without leverage and forced to accept more Republican demands in order to codify DACA.

The bipartisan plan also faced a tough path with some liberal Democrats. After the minority met as a group to discuss its options late Wednesday, Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) acknowledged that "we have a number of Democrats who do not like" key elements of the bipartisan group's proposal.

Other Democrats "do not like limiting the opportunity for citizenship for Dreamer parents, and they're unhappy with the wall" money, acknowledged Durbin, who has spent more than 15 years working toward a solution for the undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers.

Still, most Democrats backed it in the end.



Also... Durbin's Statement on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/SenatorDurbin/status/964248145927557125

https://i.imgur.com/STsSryb.jpg?1

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LOL...well...thats that I suppose...

I can hear the brosephs at ICE chanting right now..."Looks like meat is back on the menu boyssssssss"

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Leadership screwed; Trump and the White House do not intend to help Dreamers or immigrants.

They need to outsmart the bigots. Soon all Dreamers will be 40+

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@MEPFuller
For Mitch McConnell to chastise Democrats for playing politics and not finding a DACA solution, when Democrats supplied 47 of the 54 votes on the bipartisan bill...hooooooo boy.

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McConnell is a swamp monster only interested in $$ and racist, bigoted policies.

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Hate politics and those damn fucking politicians.


https://i.imgur.com/ItnQJBK.jpg

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Lol he really does look like a fucking turtle.

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Which 2 dems betrayed us?

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I am waiting for Trump's reaction. If Trump does not back down from his 4 pillars approach, nothing will happen for a while.

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I believe it was Manchin and Brown.

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Thea is for posting this. Was about to waste some time on my train home to make some thread.

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guys what just happened ?

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I wonder what these racists will say when they are deporting 20k white DACA holders.
When I get my turn, I'm going to simply say yeah Canada is 2 hour drive up north. And after you drop me off, get the fuck out of my country.

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People like Cotton, Cruz, Cornyn, Miller and the rest of the inbreeds that stop progress and let the USA achieve its full potential are nothing but a negative force against progress and a better future for humanity. Sad that they have a voice in the future of millions of people they do not represent. A bunch of hypocrite parasites.
what have they accomplish in their parasitic existence? nothing positive!

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He is not the kind of person who back down.

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Lol too bad they won’t give me a charter to poland... would be at least better than flying economy.

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I'm not worried and neither should you. We are gonna be fine, I trust my intuition. Plus, our fearless leader got our back.

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Time to see what happens to my DACA extension... should have a new expiry date onMarch / April 2020

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NO LIE I’m gonna try this:

https://totalfratmove.com/guy-goes-t...o-keep-living/

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Looks like they're going to wait and see what happens in the House with the Goodlatte bill.

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If the Grassley bill fail in the Senate, no chance Goodlatte will pass in Senate. All just for theatrics

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I think Trump will probably keep DACA in place so he can use it to get some more votes. Im sure he will be saying hes the only one who cares about DACA and thats why people need to vote for more Republicans.
It sucks though because DACA is only temporary and he can rescind it at any time (assuming SCOTUS will reaffirm his power to do so)

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He already ended it.

There is no keeping DACA in place.

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it was starting to get hard to keep the faith up when one side clearly does not understand that they have no leverage or feet to stand on in this exchange.
once again the uniparty proves themselves to be anti-democracy in regards to things that can't be used for political posturing.
if these shit-for-brains had atleast added an end to the diversity lottery, the bill would stand some chance in the house.
but of course not, that makes too much sense for these low IQ neanderthals.

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Were you guys really expecting something? Thank god I sent my renewal even with 1 year and something left on my actual one, will have 2 years to see what can be fixed, let's see if something happens in 2018 if democrats retake majority.. I won't hold my breath though, I'll leave that for my anaerobic pool training.

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Courts and keeping it in place and Trump team is not asking SCOTUS to rescind the program. They are asking to confirm the President can do whatever he wants with it. By keeping it in place I also mean letting the courts run with it, which will keep DACA alive until September/October, just in time for elections

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Well thats my plan for Brazil.. but def not killing myself fuck that. I didnt have DACA for 5 years, it wouldnt have changed my life that much if I did have it, like im sure it bearly changed a lot for most of you people. Yea yea i know alot of ppl got GCs. Great. But most are living that same life like a regular person would.

But life is what you make of it. With or without papers we are still only going to accomplish what we get up from our asses to go and do. Problem for most of us is that what we really want to do cant be done without papers. But I dont need papers to fall inlove or make money or have a good fucking time. And although the US is great, its not the only country in the world worth living in.

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Where are your sources?

They asked for expedited review by the Supreme Court, circumventing the Ninth Circuit. They want DACA to be finished as soon as possible, not to drag it out to the elections.

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If I self deport will I be able to come back to visit family and friends via passport?

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oh and guess who's gonna be at the forefront of dems' midterm campaigning?
congrats you guys.

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After 10 years no?

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For the more politically informed, this is basically it until 2018 corrrect? Unless Trump wants the wall really bad?

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I’m asking if ICE doesn’t get a hold of me. If I just go back and act like I was never here 👀

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what's next?

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You gave them all your information when applying for DACA.

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I’ve heard of cases that people overstayed their visas... went back applied for a visa a month later got the visa and got permission to enter the country... BUT they were not daca recipiptaints and first time around did not get finger printed coming in

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RENEW your daca now.
Wait for midterms.
Bluewave (maybe a smaller bluewave)
Hope that republicans and trump are ready to negotiate.
***trump might get indicted***

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lmfaoo.

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trickle down blue wave.

we don't want Pence, bro. He believes Jesus talks to him and tells him stuff.

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at least this one believes he IS a god, so at least he ain't a follower LUL.