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ECW 02-21-2018 06:55 AM
Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
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A must-pass, roughly $1.3 trillion spending bill may be the last chance before the midterm elections for the two parties to achieve their top immigration-related priorities: protecting Dreamers from deportation or build President Donald Trump’s border wall. Whether they can succeed after their repeated failures is anyone's guess, but they're expected to try
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One possibility would be a scaled-down compromise that would extend protections for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants for an additional three years in exchange for three years of wall funding. That would punt the decision on a permanent fix past Trump’s first term as president.
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Whatever Congress produces is likely to be far narrower than the proposals that the Senate just rejected. Those include a bipartisan deal as well as Trump’s plan to cut legal immigration in return for border funding and a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million young immigrants.
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Senate Democrats say they’re not eager to engage in talks with the White House for a temporary solution to the DACA problem. They believe their compromise offers last week — including $25 billion in border wall funding in exchange for offering DACA-eligible immigrants a pathway to citizenship — were more than generous, and that it’s on Republicans now to produce a plan.
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But Republicans think they may have more leverage in the future if Democrats don't deal now. Some GOP leaders and White House officials are confident they’ll get the best deal by waiting out Democrats. They predict the Supreme Court will overrule lower courts that put a temporary halt on Trump’s decision to rescind DACA on March 5.
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White House officials and some Republicans believe waiting for court action would offer them an advantage over Democrats by forcing them to capitulate to Trump’s DACA demands or face a public relations crisis by not compromising. But the political positioning is not being taken kindly by some moderates pushing for a more immediate solution.
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Rather than risk a crisis-driven immigration confrontation, Flake believes Democrats will take his deal, or some version of it, if it is clear there is no better option. Right now, Republican Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Rob Portman of Ohio and Jerry Moran of Kansas are pushing a plan to provide Trump $25 billion in border money in return for making the DACA program permanent, albeit with no path to citizenship.
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Republicans working on the issue said if Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) can agree on a narrow DACA deal to attach to the omnibus, the Senate and House could follow suit. That would require McConnell to move away from Trump’s plan and Schumer to allow a temporary DACA reprieve, a big if. And no such talks are currently underway.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-417427

Adrian2145 02-21-2018 07:06 AM
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I can say almost guarantee all congressional leaders will not vote against the debt ceiling because it would be worse than a shutdown. It impacts the whole economy and livelihoods of the American people.

Smooth 02-21-2018 08:37 AM
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Guys, we need to pressure Flake's office and make this shit renewable.

Trump is the wildcard here.

JJ Glo 02-21-2018 09:11 AM
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If they're going to pass something through Congress, it might as well be something permanent, not some temporary extension bullshit. It should be what Trump and Schumer had already agreed to, a pathway to citizenship with full border security funding.

MIdreamer 02-21-2018 09:27 AM
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Right now, Republican Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Rob Portman of Ohio and Jerry Moran of Kansas are pushing a plan to provide Trump $25 billion in border money in return for making the DACA program permanent, albeit with no path to citizenship.
$25 billion for permanent DACA, hahahah, the Democrats got outplayed so bad.

ECW 02-21-2018 09:38 AM
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The White House’s early preference going forward is a new bill sponsored by GOP Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Rob Portman of Ohio that would provide $25 billion in exchange for permanently extending DACA, an administration official said on Friday. Enrollees would have to reapply every two years under that plan.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...-senate-415856

2MoreYears 02-21-2018 09:45 AM
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Their freaken ego is the problem. Both sides want to fix the problem but only if they get the credit. Pretty shameful.

AleiaTheEnchanted 02-21-2018 10:11 AM
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We don't want an extension we want permanent one. But since we are not the one submitting the bills we've got no choice but to accept what they offer. I really hope Flake changes the extension to a permanent one. Maybe DACA to LPR for the time being?? Forget about citizenship until Trump leaves office.

Sorrybrah 02-21-2018 10:18 AM
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Another chance for republicans to embarrass Chuck S.

dtrt09 02-21-2018 10:47 AM
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Democrats offered $25 billion, much much more thsn the White House needs for the wall in exchange for the Dream Act.

The White House says we take your offer because is good, but we want to take our offer back and only help much much fewer people.

So the Democrats offer is awesome - so much so that Republicans are demanding to waste the $25 billion dollars of taxpayer money but as the moral trash that they are, they want to take Dream Act off the table.

Nope. Democrats need to say 'You made a deal; we were generous and you'll have to hold your end of the bargain". Force them. They have a shitstorm coming with Daca, gun reform, health care, etc.

There is no excuse for them not to protect all Dreamers. They need to resubmit their bills for a vote.

cooltalker 02-21-2018 11:29 AM
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Another shutdown? What a joke, lol.

FinAnalyst 02-21-2018 11:50 AM
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So, in other words, Trump wants $25 Billion to give us back what he took from us in the first place?!
Now, that’s the “worse deal in history”...

No thanks, you can keep you shitty deal and shove it where the sun don’t shine!

Got_Daca 02-21-2018 12:14 PM
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Why Dems so quiet on USA ACT?

versailles 02-21-2018 12:19 PM
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permanent as in GC status where we can actually travel or what?

CUSenior 02-21-2018 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 693181)
permanent as in GC status where we can actually travel or what?
No. 3 year renewable slave status.

IbelieveIcanFly 02-21-2018 12:57 PM
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Sorry but it sounds like another round of theatrics

Dreamer1980 02-21-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 693200)
No. 3 year renewable slave status.
Now is the time to push for Dream Act.
If they do a DACA renewal you will be at their mercy, look at what is happening with TPS

SRafaela 02-21-2018 02:01 PM
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The Dream Act sounds like a dream.....

cooltalker 02-21-2018 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SRafaela (Post 693212)
The Dream Act sounds like a dream.....
By naming it the Dream Act, they were always up front with us. They knew it was just a dream, yet we chose to believe it would become reality.

dtrt09 02-21-2018 02:35 PM
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Then you would have to stop calling yourselves Dreamers. The name is not an issue.

dtrt09 02-21-2018 02:37 PM
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Senator Durbin is tweeting again on DA.

Offer a mix of Collins bill, DA, and attach it to the omnibus.

davidrellis 02-21-2018 02:48 PM
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I don’t see them shutting down the government for us again. Especially with the omnibus, they wouldn’t want to mess around with the budget deal the leaders came to agree on.

DACA-IR-DA 02-21-2018 03:37 PM
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Got to cover aged out Dreamers.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-21-2018 04:00 PM
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Democrats gave trump a proposal as early as September 2017. Trump rejected it and now wants the money in exchange to give back what he took in the first place ? No republican in congress even wanted any of the shit Trump proposal asked for.


Republicans in the house have a bill that has the support its needs so why doesn't Ryan put it up for vote

IbelieveIcanFly 02-21-2018 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 693250)
Democrats gave trump a proposal as early as September 2017. Trump rejected it and now wants the money in exchange to give back what he took in the first place ? No republican in congress even wanted any of the shit Trump proposal asked for.


Republicans in the house have a bill that has the support its needs so why doesn't Ryan put it up for vote
You mean the goodlatte bill? Because it's DoA in Senate.

CUSenior 02-21-2018 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IbelieveIcanFly (Post 693260)
You mean the goodlatte bill? Because it's DoA in Senate.
Since Pianos seems to typically be on the left side of politics, I think they're talking about the USA Act or something similar.

Got_Daca 02-21-2018 09:19 PM
Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 693242)
Got to cover aged out Dreamers.
Poison pill

dtrt09 02-21-2018 09:46 PM
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No, it's not a poison pill. All Dreamers, especially the ones who have lived here the longest, gone to school, worked, and now have families SHOULD be included.

There were no poison pills on last week's debate. Each side was getting something they wanted.


Btw, the Washington Post has a report today about Melania Trump sponsoring her parents thanks to 'chain migration'. The White House considers not banning relatives from migrating legally a 'poison pill'. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Dreamer1980 02-21-2018 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 693334)
Poison pill
Poison pill? You want the Dems to give the Wall for 600k dreamers? I don't thinks neither do the Democrats.

Age out dreamers have paid more taxes and have more at stake here than you, dreamers are dreamers, if you don't see it that way you are part of the problem.

jaws 02-21-2018 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 693334)
Poison pill

It's not really a poison pill. The poison pill would be granting some sort of legalizing measure for our parents. Even though most of us don't blame our parents for bringing us here , the government does.

Got_Daca 02-21-2018 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamer1980 (Post 693342)
Poison pill? You want the Dems to give the Wall for 600k dreamers?
Yes.

Anything else is poison pill that Trump will veto.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-21-2018 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 693378)
Yes.

Anything else is poison pill that Trump will veto.
Lmao trump wants more than that. Its only fair to include all dreamers.

Got_Daca 02-22-2018 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 693384)
Lmao trump wants more than that. Its only fair to include all dreamers.
If all dreamers, then all chainmig must go + wall

If only daca, then only wall

Your choice

BeansDreamtoo21 02-22-2018 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 693397)
If all dreamers, then all chainmig must go + wall

If only daca, then only wall

Your choice
Dreamers for border security.

The rest for chainmigration

Dreamer1980 02-22-2018 02:28 AM
Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 693397)
If all dreamers, then all chainmig must go + wall

If only daca, then only wall

Your choice
you seem like a great negotiator, I'm glad that you have no say in this matter.

I can also see in your future that you will probably support a scumbag like Ted Cruz, sad and shameful.

libertarian1776 02-22-2018 04:47 AM
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"your choice?"

lol our words dont mean shit.

we will get whatever they want to pass or not pass for us.

2MoreYears 02-22-2018 10:26 AM
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Sadly DACA hasn't been mentioned in the media like it was before what happened in Florida.

eRkah 02-22-2018 10:57 AM
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Maybe this is slightly off-topic, but isnt it incredible that citizens supporting the GOP actually want $25 billion wasted on a wall that will probably never directly impact or improve their lives in any way. Instead of putting that to education programs, infrastructure, etc

jorgeag92 02-22-2018 01:52 PM
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Seeing how Democrats will never give up chain migration, the only chance we have is perm DACA or 600k ppl in exchange for the wall

ECW 02-24-2018 10:52 AM
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Wake up and smell the coffee people, a permanent fix is not happening! March 23 is our last hope to get a legislative extension on DACA. Those of us around here long enough knew that this would be the end game. They would try for a permanent fix, fail and the backup would be a BRIDGE Act kind extension. They all damn well knew this is what would happen:

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Graham said. "I don't think we're going to do a whole lot beyond something like the BRIDGE Act, which would be extend DACA for a year or two, and some border security. It's just too many moving parts."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/06/polit...ham/index.html

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The retiring Arizona Republican said he plans to go to the Senate floor as soon as the chamber returns from next week’s recess and will demand a vote on his plan to provide $7.6 billion in border wall money spread over three years in exchange for three years of codification of the expiring Deferred Actions for Childhood Arrivals program.
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The Trump administration may have other plans.

The White House’s early preference going forward is a new bill sponsored by GOP Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Rob Portman of Ohio that would provide $25 billion in exchange for permanently extending DACA, an administration official said on Friday. Enrollees would have to reapply every two years under that plan.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-senate-415856


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