The Real Reasons Congress Can't Act On Guns Or Immigration
 

The real reasons Congress can't act on guns or immigration
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/polit...ion/index.html


(CNN) Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin has spent the last six months attempting to do the impossible: find a solution inside the US Capitol to an immigration quagmire.

Standing on a marble staircase just off the Senate floor, he lamented Thursday that one of his worst legislative fears had come true: after a brief shutdown over immigration, fits and starts of negotiations with the White House and more than one bipartisan bill, Congress would leave for the Easter recess without enshrining in law a program that has given individuals who entered the US illegally as children a chance to live, work and be educated in the United States without fear of deportation.

We are one court decision away from hundreds of thousands of young people being deported," Durbin said on the floor as he attempted to force a vote on a bill to protect recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which President Donald Trump chose to end last year but is in limbo in the judicial system.

The nuances, specificities, and friction points vary from issue to issue, but the ultimate reality is the same: While public support for fixing immigration and changing the country's gun control laws is high, members across the Capitol admit that Congress is unable -- and at times unwilling -- to lead social change.

The body -- slow and precise -- doesn't act on moments of outrage, marches or walk outs. And while Congress was arguably not designed to react emotionally to the country's problems, the inaction on big-ticket items can give some constituents the impression that the Legislative Branch is not being responsive to its constituents. It instead waits, and at times, hopes, that the courts, the President and state houses will do the work for them.

"My philosophy is very simple," said Rep. John Lewis, a Democrat from Georgia. "Leaders must lead and we're not leading."

But Trump also complained about how Congress operates Friday, as he signed a $1.3 trillion spending package.

"I looked very seriously at the veto," Trump said at the White House after signing the bill. "I was thinking about doing the veto, but because of the incredible gains we've been able to make for the military, that overrode any of our thinking...

Public support is high, but most members haven't changed their minds. And unlike a spending bill you can fill with sweeteners to entice members to vote "yes," there is no amount of money that will change decades-worth of identity politics overnight. There's no deadline forcing a vote any time soon and with an election looming, a debate carries more risks than it does a guarantee of substantive change.

"We had a DACA debate and we ended up with nothing to show for it," Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn said when asked why the Senate hadn't engaged in a robust floor debate on things like immigration.

An open debate would expose members on both sides of the aisle to tough, political votes just months before the midterm election.

The Democratic Senate Whip Durbin told CNN that he believes the blame falls on both sides of the aisle when it comes to ducking.

On immigration, lawmakers told CNN that the courts have largely allowed Congress to stay silent on DACA since their last attempt. While tens of thousands of DACA recipients are left in limbo as they wait to see how their future unfolds, Congress has yet to feel the heat of the program actually ending.

"I don't know when we'll get" a fix, Flake said. "We just have to wait until the court rules and maybe that will force a deadline that forces us to come back, but without a deadline, it's tough to do. It's very difficult. It's difficult under the best of circumstances in an off (election) year."

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They don't even believe their own excuses. Also, not so sure this lawsuit was a good idea on a political policy vs. investing time and $ into ensuring Congress passed a real solution.

What prevents progress is that the same people who return to Congress vote the same way election after election.

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"I don't know when we'll get" a fix, Flake said. "We just have to wait until the court rules and maybe that will force a deadline that forces us to come back, but without a deadline, it's tough to do. It's very difficult. It's difficult under the best of circumstances in an off (election) year."

Procrastinating sons of bitches.

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Our best hope is true progressive Dems taking tons of GOP sears and Nancy Pelosi getting voted out as speaker

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It's going to reach the Supreme Court and we will end up with some patch fix (3 years and some border money etc..) Nothing permanent will pass as long as Trump is president. The good thing is that at least we now know that Trump and the GOP will go for something being attach to a budget or spending bill if push come to shove and I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunity for that..

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Who do you think would be a good replacement D speaker?

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No We need Chuck and Durbin out... Not Nancy Pelosi.. .She at least got Dream Act passed in the House back in 2010...

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We need all the corporate democrats out. Including pelosi.

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We shouldn't be looking 3 years ahead. The moment is now. Lets be a rock in the shoe of democrats. Lets call them out let's do something god dmn it. Can we organize something in the lounge?? Like massive replies on pelosis, schumers tweets calling them out for being fake allies without looking like entitled brats??

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Pramila Jayapal.

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Tulsi Gabbard.

she was gonna be Bernies VP. i hope she is the first female president.

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lol.
don't expect any of them to actually know tulsi.
they'll gladly support hilary if she runs again instead of tulsi.

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I thought it was the $200 million we keep sending them every year.

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Even Sen. Durbin acknowledges on the record that leadership is to blame.

We need change makers like Pramila Jayapal and Keith Ellison as leaders of the party.

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lmao! Dem aides wanting us to look 3 years into the future! You gotta be kidding me!!!

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I have said it before legislation was considered; delay for the sake of delay.

This issue will come up again, but likely in a new Congress where bills have to be re-introduced and any effort resets. It is going to be a long year for DACA

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In my opinion,

Women should not be presidents. They act on emotions not logic. Bad for a country.

See Germany under Angela Merkel and Britain under Margaret Thatcher. Both countries are/were a mess under them.

Check out Cristina Fernández de Kirchner under Argentina as well.

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Before I have a negative reaction to this self important dumbass, can someone please provide a link to the ignore list? I can’t seem to find it and Demise took the link off their signature.

So I’m not going to call you a sexist. That would be too lazy and Versailles would have a breakdown. Do you have any evidence that shows that women act more on emotions than logic? And if you do, does the evidence point to an explanation based on their physical characteristics as a women or is it based on their social conditioning?

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Margaret Thatcher:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8eaee9aafe27

I'm a scholar, I am subscribed to this:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...67223183900301

Kirchner (Argentina):
http://www.businessinsider.com/crist...economy-2012-4

Angela Merkel:
http://theweek.com/articles/669030/a...troying-europe


Evidence:
I am an experienced man. I have interacted with a lot of beautiful women in my life.

From my research, I found out one thing they all had in common: emotional. They make decisions on emotion. They are indecisive. Sit around a group of women. When they are trying to make dinner plans, they have no clue where to go because they worry too much if little Suzy will like the place or not. The way they feel is temporal. One minute they are hot, loving, and caring and the next minute they turn cold, distant, and angry.

If you look at animals, the females tend to be more violent than their male counterparts. It's been scientifically proven to be true.

Let me know if you're interested, I can share scholarly journals.

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You should share the scholarly journals if you can link them to human behavior. Though I don't see you're anecdotal evidence being admissible scientifically. You may have just met women who acted in that way.

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werent all wars and conflict in human history started by men?

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I'll find them for you.

Don't get me wrong. I love women. I love my mom. I have nothing against women, I'm just speaking the truth.

I am a sucker for beautiful women.

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No.

Margaret Thatcher started a bloody unnecessary war in Argentina. It was called the "Falklands War"

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

Belligerents
United Kingdom Argentina
Commanders and leaders
United Kingdom Margaret Thatcher
United Kingdom Sir Terence Lewin
United Kingdom Sir John Fieldhouse
United Kingdom Sandy Woodward
United Kingdom Jeremy Moore
United Kingdom Julian Thompson
United Kingdom Tony Wilson
Argentina Leopoldo Galtieri
Argentina Jorge Anaya
Argentina Basilio Lami Dozo
Argentina Juan Lombardo
Argentina Ernesto Crespo
Argentina Mario Menéndez

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youre misleading people, it even says on the evidence you posted that it was men who initiated the conflict

"Admiral Jorge Anaya was the driving force in the Junta's decision to invade."

it's 2018 dude, u gotta leave this mentality back where it belongs.

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They most certainly were. At least 99% of them were.

I never said you hated women but I was looking through the Thatcher article and I couldn't find any instances that would suggest that she was more emotional than male leaders. In fact, the article confirmed my views on Thatcher, that she was a male version of Ronald Reagan. I'm unsure how you can jump to the conclusion that women are emotional from the articles.

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Every other person on that list is a guy.
And LBJ started a bloody and unnecessary war in Vietnam. Bush started a bloody and unnecessary war in Iraq. And WW1 was started because a 19 year old Serbian guy thought it would be smart to assassinate an archduke. History shows that guys are pretty damn emotional.

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Women are not good leaders because they are not meant to lead. It's biological.

Look at any relationship. If the woman is taking charge, I bet you with 100 percent accuracy that the woman ain't happy and the relationship is not a good one.

You recall the Yahoo CEO? Marissa. They let her "lead" and messed up Yahoo big time:

https://gizmodo.com/heres-what-happe...cqu-1781980352

Woman are better suited for taking care of children, cooking, and cleaning. Why do you think so many woman take medications nowadays? Because they are trying to become something they are not fit to do.

They get depressed because they will be 'judged' for being too woman-ly (cooking, cleaning, etc)
They get depressed because their biology and maternal instincts makes them want to have a baby, but they can't because they want to have a 'career' - so when they are too old to have one, they've wasted their life trying to move up the ladder.

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this is ridiculous man, u claim u hate feminists and their ideologies but urs is as terrible as theirs when your ideas come from the religious right.

both are a no no and are a threat to human progress in 2018 and beyond.

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Well I don't think we are going to change your mind, which is fine. Can you do us a favor though? Can you get on reddit's red pill page and any other MRA/MGTOW groups and convince them to support Dreamers. I'm sure they make up a pretty decent chunk of Trump's base so they might convince him.

(Also I'm not trying to be demeaning. I'm serious. You could be very useful strategically.)

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I just checked it out. Damn, didn't know that existed.

Yeah, I can do that. I'm a pretty good leader. I just got an award at work for being the MVP for the 2nd quarter (400+ employees).. I'm also pretty smart - I know a lot about history and I can speak a lot of languages. I have YouTube videos if you're interested in seeing me in action.

I wouldn't mind coming out and being the poster-child for DREAMers. I connect with people really well and I am a really likeable dude outside of these forums.You can ask my girl, every time we travel, I get free drinks at the bar. I don't do it intentionally, it just happens.

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not good at a lot of things, but I am very good at being humble.

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I'm not far right man.

I am an internationalist. I love people, cultures, languages, and the diversity that exist in our planet.


I have taught English as well to immigrants. I don't think you will see a lot of Right-Wingers teaching English, because most likely they are not knowledgeable on the English language - the syntax, morphology, semantics, pragmatics and it's history - like yours truly.

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yeah... the first two paragraphs then he posts being humble as the conclusion. LOL this guy aint serious at all, he posts things on this forum as a provocateur.

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how can you be an internationalist when youre an illegal dreamer and lived here ur whole life and havent visited other countries to actually experience other cultures?

you cant claim to have "studied" it, it just doesnt work that way. lol

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god damn all of you piling on him, chill.
i don't like thatcher either but there are plenty of girls in positions of power that were great for the country in the olden times.

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It's just my sense of humor brother.


I know a lot about Russian, German, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Mexican, Chilean, Dutch, French, British, American and Chicago culture. I can speak those languages. If you don't believe me, let me know when you're in the Bay Area. I'll take you out.

I may not have visited those countries yet; however, I do immerse myself. I change the language of my phone and computer to one of the languages listed above. I challenge myself to only listen to, for example, German music all day. I listen to German news on my way to work. I go to Russian restaurants and use Russian only. Russians are the best. They look at me at amazement that a brown man can spit those Ruski words.

When I used to take the bus to college, I met this Russian lady. We had the same schedule, so we talked a lot. Spoke only Russian. She invited me to have dinner at her house. Introduced me to her beautiful Ukrainian-Russian grand-daughter.

She said whenever I wanted to visit Moscow to let her know. She would tell her family and let me stay for free. I think she secretly wanted me to date her granddaughter. I couldn't as I was in a committed relationship.


So you are right, I am not a world traveler (yet), but I have the skills and knowledge to be the best travel partner. I am knowledgeable on history and I can speak languages. For now, I will let my Chrome Cast show me the world. I've seen some dope ass pictures from Chile and Thailand.

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Join us in the lounge we want to do stuff like that.

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yo can you get me that moscow girls number fam?

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I don't know where to start. I work in neurosciences with all manner of disorders with the top medical and scientific talent in the PNW and we are all women. We are not too bad on the eyes either.

Women have very little tolerance for bullshit and unfortunately that means that men are less likely to get away with being jerks and that you will get called out for it.

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Fa sho. All yours brother. I'm in a relationship, so I can't explore this option. Hit me up when you're in the Bay Area,

She looks like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fc/fa...cbe96ffb19.jpg

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I love it when women test me. It turns me on.

I'm going back to school to finish my grad program. I am going to do Speech Pathology. Can you hook it up with a job? I think you would be fun to banter with.