Dems withhold support for immigration petition
 

House Democrats are withholding their support for a Republican push to force action on "Dreamers" until enough GOP lawmakers have signed on to validate the effort.

The strategy pulls the page from the Democrats' approach to a similar discharge petition in 2015, when they endorsed the document forcing a vote to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank only after enough dissenting Republicans had signed on to ensure its success.

"I would think we'd have overwhelming support, but we'd expect them to put up first, just as we did with the Ex-Im Bank," said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), ranking member of the Judiciary Committee's immigration subpanel.

"It's the same thing. The Republicans need to show some guts."

On Thursday morning, Rep. Diana DeGette (Colo.) became the first Democrat to endorse the petition. But she is an anomaly. She'll be out of town all next week to attend her daughter's graduation from medical school, and didn't want to miss the chance to endorse the document, according to her office.

Eighteen Republicans have so far endorsed a petition filed by Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.), that would force floor votes on several pieces of immigration legislation, all of which would salvage the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA, to some degree.

The petition requires 218 signatures to compel a floor vote. If every Democrat backs the petition, 25 Republican signatures would be needed to reach 218.

A number of those Republicans are facing tough reelection contests this year in districts with significant Hispanic populations - including Reps. Curbelo, Will Hurd (Texas), Mike Coffman (Colo.), David Valadao (Calif.) and Jeff Denham (Calif.).

As a tactic, discharge petitions rarely work, and it's unclear if Curbelo's effort will prove the rule or the exception.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and other GOP leaders are urging their members not to endorse the document.

Rep. Filemon Vela (D-Texas) has indicated he won't support the petition, citing concerns about enhanced immigration security in the border district he represents. But some Democrats are convinced he'll cave to pressure and endorse the petition if he's the last holdout preventing DACA supporters from reaching the 218 mark.

DACA allowed people brought to the United States illegally as children to work and go to school in the country under certain conditions. Trump announced he was ending the program last year.

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Re: Dems withhold support for immigration petition
 

republicans and democrats fucking us alike, no discrimination here!!! popped a molly im sweatin’ wooooooo!

Re: Dems withhold support for immigration petition
 

You’re speaking too soon. If they get 7 more, the floodgates will open.

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don’t hold your breath. lol

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that's right stormy

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If there's not enough Republicans to sign on, what's the point of the Democrats signing it? It would be another fruitless effort.

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This is the correct strategy. Republicans are only doing this because they are scared for midterms.
Democrats previously issued a discharge petition with only one or two joining on.

It’s time for the GOP to put up or shut up

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Yea one Party has unanimous support while the other can barely get 18 people to sign for it. Totally the same!

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That's bullshit and you know it. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you know it because it's really sad if you don't by now.

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But but but Trump said he has a big heart! Totally the same!

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it's a correct strategy to withhold support?
the fuck are some of you on.

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you know whats really sad? its when we put all our hopes and dreams on the numbers 218 and 60 votes, maybe we should stop using politicians as an excuse not to do something with our lives?

find a way to get yourself legalized: get married, shouldve joined mavni, move to another country, etc. take control of your own destiny. can't live illegal forever u know, so much of our lives are wasted in waiting.

whos that guy in the other topics section? uthinkable or whatever the fuck his name is, he claims to be "republican for life" and lord knows i disagree with the shit he says on here but i respect him for doing something with his life and eventually got legalized instead of waiting around with sticks up our asses like the rest of us here.

at the end of the day, yeah sure.. Democrats want to help us and Republicans want to deport us and it all ends in a stalemate but what are you personally doing to change or improve your life as an undocumented here in America with all the handicaps you already know we have?

Re: Dems withhold support for immigration petition
 

Because they're calling their bluff. When have Republicans ever come up with a fair immigration reform package and Democrats have killed it? Never? Yeah, never. How about the Opposite? Oh yeah, every damn time. What are YOU on?

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Ok fine,YOU find a way to legalize yourself then and get off here. That way you won't be so sad and come up with lazy assessments that "they're all the same". Go on...go legalize yourself and show us how it's done. Maybe you can find that citizenship line that Republicans keep telling us to get behind. Maybe there is a citizenship tree somewhere. Show the way!

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nah there isnt a citizenship tree somewhere but you make due with the hand you're dealt, (i put all my chips on the democrats on the spending bill) i gotta admit i was disappointed but i still believe a Democratic Congress is the best chance we got but i made Plan B's, C's for myself like applying for express entry to another country and not sit on my ass like what you been doing the last half century waiting for something to happen.

damn bro, why are you so butt-hurt when someone mentions Democrats in front of you? is your mom like a Democratic member in Congress? man u need to develop thicker skin... just because someone says "fuck democrats" or "fuck republicans" for a man that's nearly 50 years old, you get butt-hurt about politicians you havent even met in real life. shit, i never seen so much devotion to a group of people.. i mean i agree with you they are the best chance we got for legalization when Democrats take majority, but damn you take this blind loyalty up a notch. i mean i love Obama (who is a good man) for giving us DACAers a shot at life but the Democrats didnt even give u anything and u worship the ground they're on. Atleast for us DACAers we have something to thank Democrats for.

i mean i am not wrong when i say all politicians are the same, they are all self-serving and are only in office to line their pockets? yeah there are a few good people like Bernie Sanders & Tulsi Gabbard (who should be the Democratic ticket in 2020 btw.)

lastly, stop using politicians as an excuse because of inactions in your life. i can also sit here till im 50 yrs old and complain about how these great Washington bureaucrats are in control of my life and not me.

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I like it. It's the Dem's way of telling the Republicans to put up or shut up. They want to run their mouths that they want to find a solution, well there it is, sign the petition. Only 25 needed and they can't even get that.

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I wish they would just get this over with whether they allow us to legalize or not. I just need a definite answer, so I can move on with my life.

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Wow you have no idea how hard it is to legalize right?

Most of us call this country our home.

Dont tell us that we need to move out or that we should get married just for legal status.

Some people believe marriage to be a sacrament.

You are entitled to your opinion obviously but that doesnt make it right ir humanely possibly for every single DREAMER stuck in legal limbo.

Trump has most of the blame. Period

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yeah you right Trump is to blame but how long we gonna keep using that? when Trump is gone who we gonna blame next if nothing still happens?

yeah i believe marriage is a sacrament, thats why i chose not to go that way to legalize. i chose another way not to be stuck in limbo.

if you're gonna keep finding ways to find blame, then yeah i guess its better for us to stay illegal forever. lmao yeah i get it, we have handicaps as undocumented people but shit, you control your own life.

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It's hard to try to reason with you when you're on your 4th renewal of something Democrats gave you and Republicans are actively trying to take away.

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yeah and i hate republicans for it but isnt it tiring that we continue to rely on politicians?

bro i agree with everything u say but as per usual ur gonna paint me as opposition to you because i have a different point of view.

i supported mccain in 08 and obama in 2012. both were for immigraion reform, im a one issue constituent im with the side that will help us the most.

but it doesnt mean they get a pass on everything. i can still get to shit on both sides as much as i want to and that doesnt make me your enemy.

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It really does make you out enemy if 90% of bashes and guilt tripping is for the blue


I honestly do not get the logic behind some of you closet red hats.


Republicans have:
- impeded the house from voting on the senate passed cir twice (2006 and 2013)
- Sue Trump to end DACA
- Ended DACA ( only to be stopped by federal judges )
- killed 2010 DA
- Continue to make this country go backwards while the world moves forward


And somehow democrats are just as bad as republicans?

“But but they’re not defending us against the attacks of the republicans therefore they’re as a bad”


Here’s my favorite some of you closer redhats like throw spit out

“Republicans get SHIT done if they’re gonna deport us as least they don’t mess around and that means they get As all around. They have my respect unlike the democrats who keep using us but never help us”


Do you guys also respect Hilter?

“Yeah sure Hitler/Himmler killed 6 million Jews but you gotta respect the efficiency they did that at!! Only geniuses could have killed that many people in such a short time. Like you gotta respect someone like that. The real blame lies on the allies!! They let the nazis do it by not saving them fast enough! If they’re not blame then they’re just as bad as the Nazis”

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Cryin' pianos having a meltdown lol

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I too always cry meltdown when all my points are destroyed

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Why the democrats helped to pass a bill with money for detention beds. And then called it a good bill. Dont they love us?

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What's the difference between this idiot telling us to quit "relying on politicians" and forge our own way vs. the other idiots telling the Dreamers to "get in line" and "do it legally"?

What do you think? On a scale of "Brioche" and "severed head of Marie Antoinette", they're both edging towards the Guillotine in my opinion.

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Oh yeah they’re much worse than then people who actually passed that bill


Great logic there buddy

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NO dont go that way. Answer me. Why did they propose that bill? Why is it a good bill?.

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he's not going to answer you, you're basically asking someone to confront their dishonesty.
don't waste your time.

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Watch him answer to you changing the subject ignoring me lol

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he already tried to subtly change the subject lol, his best response to you was what-aboutism.

Re: Dems withhold support for immigration petition
 

Here comes Versailles the guy who gets involved then tries to run away. Did you ever find that topic?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Beans 1 - cryin pianos 0

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i have a life outside of your low IQ discussions.
ask 2face about the topic and he'll tell you how many times you instigated shit against him with mods not really doing anything about it.

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Oh wow first he makes fun of autism and now my low IQ? Isn’t there anything closer redhats won’t atrack?

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don't think i ever made fun of autism with that kind of intent, but if you actually are autistic i'm sorry.

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Yeah you did lmao you tried to use it as a form of attack.

Here let me do what you just did


“ don’t listen to Versailles he’s like 18 and doesn’t understand how the world really works”

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pianos, i say you don't understand how the world works because your are very partisan and blind to the realities of the flaws in the democratic party and how liberalism in the US works.
as much as i dislike people that have your kind of mindset, you are still a dacaer, and i try to get people to see the truth of the horrors of US politics. your worldview is limited to what your biased mindset allows you to take in.

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Says the 18 year old?

Oh man!! I am getting trolled here

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i see now, not only do you not get it, but you are willfully choosing to stay ignorant.
very productive conversation chap.