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Transcend 06-15-2018 10:14 AM

Trump Says He Won't Sign House Immigration Compromise Measure
 
Somewhat similar in context to the previous thread but I figured I post this so we can read more about it, esp. what the Democratic thinking is.

Quote:

President Donald Trump said Friday he won’t sign a House Republican immigration plan that would curb his administration’s widely criticized policy of separating children from parents seeking asylum at the U.S. border.

The draft bill being circulated Thursday would provide money for Trump’s U.S.-Mexico border wall and allow provisional legal status for young undocumented immigrants who had been brought to the U.S. as children. Beneficiaries could apply for a new merit-based green card, a stepping stone to citizenship.

But many of the young immigrants, known as Dreamers, would face an uncertain road to permanent residency -- a major sticking point for Democrats who want to guarantee them a path to becoming Americans. The measure isn’t guaranteed enough support from majority Republicans to pass the House without Democratic help.

The bill is the product of negotiation between GOP factions after moderate Republicans threatened to join Democrats in forcing votes on a series of immigration proposals, contending they wanted action on the issue before the November election. The GOP and Democratic petition stalled after House Speaker Paul Ryan agreed to start the new talks that excluded Democrats.


The compromise plan includes $23.4 billion for border security over eight years, including $16.6 billion for the wall. It’s expected to get a House vote next week, along with a more restrictive proposal sponsored by Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia.

In an impromptu media appearance at the White House Friday, Trump told reporters he was looking at both measures but that he "certainly won’t sign the more moderate one"

The compromise bill would halt the separation of immigrant families seeking asylum at the border, which has been almost universally denounced as inhumane. It would do this by allowing children to stay with parents in the same detention facilities.
‘No From Me’

Democrats weren’t included in the drafting of the bill, and second-ranking Senate Democrat Dick Durbin of Illinois said it would face united opposition in his chamber.

“Sounds like it will be a no from me,” said Democratic Representative Jose Serrano of New York after hearing the details.


The draft text includes one of Trump’s top priorities: cutting future legal immigration. It would eliminate U.S. citizens’ ability to sponsor adult siblings and married children for permanent residency, which the president and his allies refer to as "chain migration." Citizens would retain their ability to sponsor their parents for residency.

Democrats have previously expressed openness to limiting family-based immigration, but only alongside legalizing all of the roughly 11 million undocumented people in the U.S.

GOP Representative Joe Barton of Texas, a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said he is “predisposed “ to vote for the compromise bill. “I want to see a solution,” he said.

But GOP immigration hardliner Representative Steve King of Iowa said he opposes the measure.

“Voting for any amnesty for DACA recipients violates the rule of law,” King said, referring to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program for the young undocumented immigrants.

The new permanent-residency green cards would be issued each year only if Congress releases money for Trump’s border wall.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tion-at-border
June 14th, 2018. 5:23 EDT

Transcend 06-15-2018 10:16 AM

Re: Trump Says He Won't Sign House Immigration Compromise Measure
 
So that's that. No matter how Paul Ryan tried to link him with the compromise bill, he outright comes out and drowns all of the excitement. This guy is nuts.

john_smith 06-15-2018 10:24 AM

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Ok, that's the last straw.. impeach. Next president.

trac3rt 06-15-2018 10:25 AM

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wow, seriously?? i thought Ryan said the president had assured him it would support his bill.

I bet that bald-headed Miller, piece of crap, made him change his mind.

jaws 06-15-2018 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trac3rt (Post 709584)
wow, seriously?? i thought Ryan said the president had assured him it would support his bill.


I feel like Ryan is loosing ground. It's astounding how many people are turning against him. Twitter haters are really letting him have it.

MIdreamer 06-15-2018 10:32 AM

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Ryan has no influence at this point. He is retiring so don't expect much from him.

Got_Daca 06-15-2018 10:32 AM

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So Trump isnt serious about his wall after NOKO win

Cool

Copper 06-15-2018 10:36 AM

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This shouldn’t even be a shocker. Everyone should have seen this coming.

4n0nym0us 06-15-2018 10:40 AM

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Lol.....

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 10:42 AM

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Trump wants his $25b for his wall and deportation order for all of us!! Haha

vft1008 06-15-2018 10:49 AM

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Don't worry guys. Trump is a smart man. Trump will save us.

dtrt09 06-15-2018 11:03 AM

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Denham and Curbelo should lose their seats.

DreamerSD23 06-15-2018 11:08 AM

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So where are we on the rollercoaster?

freshh. 06-15-2018 11:10 AM

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Not so fast guys. Miller was just on television talking up the compromise. Word on the hill is that The Orange Moron is confused.
Word is, at least in Politico, that Rs think Trump was confused about the Ryan bill and didn’t realize it meets the 4 pillars.. and is actually worse on Dream than his own ideas
- @Josh Breisblatt

NEW: @Jim_Jordan, HFC cofounder, says Trump's opposition tanks any chance GOP compromise bill passes House.
"A lot of conservatives had concerns about it" before Trump's opposition, he said, but wanted time to review the details.
"Obviously the president has and doesn't like it."

Meanwhile: MODS scramble to figure out if Trump meant what he said.
"I'm not sure that the president understood the question, so we're checking to see if he did," said @RepJohnKatko. "I still have faith that when he sees the bill and has a chance to digest it, he'll support it."

Democrats are now urging moderate Republicans to vote against the rule next week to bring Goodlatte to the floor which would keep the current discharge petition viable. Katko said it was too early to discuss that option.

Chief Deputy Whip @PatrickMcHenrysays whip is being DELAYED till next week while we "seek clarity from the White House."Moderate sources say they are hopeful Trump tweets a walkback in short order.

Chief Deputy Whip @PatrickMcHenrysays whip is being DELAYED till next week while we "seek clarity from the White House."
Moderate sources say they are hopeful Trump tweets a walkback in short order.

- @Mike Debonis

freshh. 06-15-2018 11:16 AM

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Steny hoyer immdiately approached Jeff denham when he got to the house floor. I bet that’s an immigration chat. Denham is standing close to the leaderships whip desk.

Denham is now talking to Dan Newhouse and Fred upton. Newhouse was seen as an immediate threat to sign discharge petition as of a few days ago.

Now Aguilar has approached denham.

- @Jake Sherman

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 11:18 AM

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Our unstable fckin president. I hope he changes his mind.

Busybee 06-15-2018 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709604)
Our unstable fckin president. I hope he changes his mind.

Seriously! he's so unpredictable. It's annoying.

PhelonOne87 06-15-2018 11:29 AM

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https://image.ibb.co/bA0wLJ/A51_D0_F...558_CD9406.jpg

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 11:45 AM

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@ChadPergram
GOP OK Rep Cole on Trump’s comment on ldrsp immigration bill:
I’m not sure (Trump) is aware of everything that’s in the bill..let’s see what happens in the next few hrs..there was probably some confusion..I’m not sure the President has been briefed on everything..in the bill

PhelonOne87 06-15-2018 11:46 AM

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House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Hoyer, members of Congressional Tri-Caucus and dreamers mark the 6th anniversary of the announcement of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

“The vote on the republican bills is a pony show “ hahahaha

https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness...7067835841336/

Swim19 06-15-2018 11:46 AM

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@ChadPergram
Chief Deputy Whip GOP Rep McHenry says after Trump’s comments on immigration, they are not whipping the new immigration bill this am. “We’re getting clarity (from the President).” Says the whip will now be next wk. Says they won’t move ahead on this issue w/o support of Trump

Keep in mind that the President and his aides were dialed in on what Hse GOPers were prepping legislatively on immigration & released last night. GOPers say Trump’s apparent position shift reminds them of him threatening to veto omnibus right after it was passed in March

PhelonOne87 06-15-2018 11:47 AM

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Trump is mad they didn’t pick up the phone when he called during their meeting hahaha

dreamer__13 06-15-2018 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhelonOne87 (Post 709611)
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Hoyer, members of Congressional Tri-Caucus and dreamers mark the 6th anniversary of the announcement of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

“The vote on the republican bills is a pony show “ hahahaha

https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness...7067835841336/

Definitely a pony show. Hopefully the blue wave hits hard..

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 11:53 AM

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@mjraju
Mass confusion in the House over Trump’s comments putting down the GOP’s compromise immigration bill. Several Republican members think he was talking about the wrong bill and are asking for a clarification from WH. “I don’t know what bill he was talking about,” one R said.

Transcend 06-15-2018 11:54 AM

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The more resentment towards him, the better. He'll soon be a one man show, if he already isn't.

freshh. 06-15-2018 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709610)
@ChadPergram
GOP OK Rep Cole on Trump’s comment on ldrsp immigration bill:
I’m not sure (Trump) is aware of everything that’s in the bill..let’s see what happens in the next few hrs..there was probably some confusion..I’m not sure the President has been briefed on everything..in the bill

And @RepGoodlatte suggests walk back is coming... "I think you're going to hear more from the president soon."
- @Mike Debonis

They think he is going to walk it back. I can imagine Paul Ryan and Co. rushing to the White House to explain to his sundowning ass what is going on. :roll:

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freshh. (Post 709621)
And @RepGoodlatte suggests walk back is coming... "I think you're going to hear more from the president soon."
- @Mike Debonis

They think he is going to walk it back. I can imagine Paul Ryan and Co. rushing to the White House to explain to his sundowning ass what is going on. :roll:

I don’t know what else the fck he wants. This bill literally has everything he asked for unless he wants a deportation bill for us.

dreamer__13 06-15-2018 12:23 PM

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They sound desperate AF.

DreamerSD23 06-15-2018 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709622)
I don’t know what else the fck he wants. This bill literally has everything he asked for unless he wants a deportation bill for us.

There's one thing missing:

* Conscripting applicants to spend a minimum of 12 months to build the wall.

freshh. 06-15-2018 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709622)
I don’t know what else the fck he wants. This bill literally has everything he asked for unless he wants a deportation bill for us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 709623)
They sound desperate AF.

Which is exactly why this bill will pass. Once they clear the cobwebs and explain to Trump what is in this bill (i.e. his wall money, reduced family immigration), he is going to walk back his comments and say he meant that he won't sign any bills from the discharge petition effort; effectively killing our chances of a more reasonable/lenient proposal passing.

The problem is the GOP sticks together. So, everyone voicing their concerns now will still vote yes on this bill when the votes are held next week.

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 709624)
There's one thing missing:

* Conscripting applicants to spend a minimum of 12 months to build the wall.

Put it in the bill and i would gladly do it!

Whereisthelight 06-15-2018 12:50 PM

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They keep dangling and snatching the carrot.

Perhaps the DACA "fix" really is dead as stated by Trump months ago.

FLDreamerrr 06-15-2018 01:04 PM

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Dems gotta go hard in the midterms

BestBefore1984 06-15-2018 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 709630)
Dems gotta go hard in the midterms

welcome back fl_dreamer


where you been girl?

georgeb1214 06-15-2018 01:21 PM

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@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

The compromise bill literally has everything he is asking for! What else does he want?

Swim19 06-15-2018 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709632)
@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

The compromise bill literally has everything he is asking for! What else does he want?


Liar-in-Chief

a.martin3z 06-15-2018 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 709632)
@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

The compromise bill literally has everything he is asking for! What else does he want?

Dude just added "end catch & release" on top of the "4 pillars". He's just going to keep moving the goal post, I guess.

dreamer__13 06-15-2018 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a.martin3z (Post 709635)
Dude just added "end catch & release" on top of the "4 pillars". He's just going to keep moving the goal post, I guess.

I think Miller continues to be the problem. Trump is just an orange fat fuck who repeats what he’s told.

desice 06-15-2018 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 709636)
I think Miller continues to be the problem. Trump is just an orange fat fuck who repeats what he’s told.

I can see Trump yelling at Miller that he tweeted what Miller asked him to, now where is the hamburger he promised to give him.

jorgeag92 06-15-2018 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a.martin3z (Post 709635)
Dude just added "end catch & release" on top of the "4 pillars". He's just going to keep moving the goal post, I guess.

I think this is already in the bill as well. Trump is just talking out of his ass. He is a millionaire who is not used to working. He is probably just trying to get impeached for incompetency at this point


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