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Copper 06-26-2018 10:28 AM

Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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#BREAKING: The Supreme Court has upheld President Trump's ban on travel from several mostly Muslim countries in a 5-4 vote.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wsvn/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

lonelydreamer 06-26-2018 10:40 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 711586)

so DACA is destined to doom if it reaches supreme court, bad day for dreamers.
should we still wait for 2020, 2024 or beyond for a clean dream act or a CIR, when democrats will have super majority and POTUS and they allow dreamer issue to take center stage or ask them now to support compromise bill with amendments to include most dreamers?

Copper 06-26-2018 10:43 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by lonelydreamer (Post 711589)
so DACA is destined to doom if it reaches supreme court, bad day for dreamers.
should we still wait for 2020, 2024 or beyond for a clean dream act or a CIR, when democrats will have super majority and POTUS and they allow dreamer issue to take center stage or ask them now to support compromise bill with amendments to include most dreamers?

Thoughts exactly. So far the Supreme Court has been voting on party lines, if DACA gets to the Supreme Court it is certain that the program will end. Let’s hope we can at least squeeze in one last renewal.

isk84life 06-26-2018 10:49 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
That stolen Supreme Court seat is sure as hell hurting Dems.

MIdreamer 06-26-2018 10:51 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 711592)
That stolen Supreme Court seat is sure as hell hurting Dems.

Weak, pathetic and spineless Democrats gave it up without a fight. SAD!

Copper 06-26-2018 10:54 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 711593)
Weak, pathetic and spineless Democrats gave it up without a fight. SAD!

It is sad but true, this administration has also shown how weak Democrats are on immigration. When the Republicans are in charge they go ALL out on their anti-immigration agenda, could care less what the voters or courts think.

When the Democrats are in charge, they just simply stand by on immigration with no further actions. Just sad! That’s the reason we’re in the mess we’re in right now.

Trump is pardoning people up and down, Obama should have the balls to pardon us since he simply stood by and did nothing on immigration when he had the majority.

isual 06-26-2018 10:57 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
it is what it is. the good i see here is, when it comes time for the oral argument for our side, they will most definitely look at how the SC ruled on this case to provide an objective response.

ECW 06-26-2018 11:01 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
For those crying for greencards, let’s just hope we get some sort of legislative patch to survive this presidency because this court is going to take us down. Get it out of your heads guys, we are not getting a permanent fix with this president.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-26-2018 11:03 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
“Republicans are people with love. They love everyone it’s the Democrats who let this happened!”

MIdreamer 06-26-2018 11:07 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 711598)
“Republicans are people with love. They love everyone it’s the Democrats who let this happened!”

Still waiting for the bill of "Love" from Trump.

jaws 06-26-2018 11:15 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 711590)
Thoughts exactly. So far the Supreme Court has been voting on party lines, if DACA gets to the Supreme Court it is certain that the program will end. Let’s hope we can at least squeeze in one last renewal.

The thing with daca is that it's in effect and it's pros outweigh the cons. Thats why they were able to kill dapa but didn't mess with daca. Now there are more republican judges to kill dada. This was well played by Paxton.

bettertomorrow1 06-26-2018 11:16 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
This is scary.

georgeb1214 06-26-2018 11:20 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Should I go ahead and renew I expire in june 2019??

dreamer__13 06-26-2018 11:21 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 711603)
Should I go ahead and renew I expire in june 2019??

Ah duh.. not sure why you haven’t.

dreamer__13 06-26-2018 11:22 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 711597)
For those crying for greencards, let’s just hope we get some sort of legislative patch to survive this presidency because this court is going to take us down. Get it out of your heads guys, we are not getting a permanent fix with this president.

LOL! Get it through your head, Dems aren’t giving Trump Miller’s wet dream list of demands for the Bridge Act.

Marco956 06-26-2018 11:23 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
The dirty-trick GOP knows how to play politics. They stoke a seat from Obama and went nuclear to confirm ultra-conservative Gorsuch.

The SCOTUS will be conservative for years (or even decades) to come.

lonelydreamer 06-26-2018 11:26 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 711598)
“Republicans are people with love. They love everyone it’s the Democrats who let this happened!”

does your rhetoric help the situation? if you are thinking democrats will win 218 house seats, 60 senate seats and unseat Trump in 2020, you are drinking a cool aid.
even if that happens there is no guarantee crying chuck will let immigration occupies the whole stage and they go big on CIR and all 60 democrat senators and 218 house democrats will be on board. dont be a Nero, Rome has already started burning. stop your blue wave nonsense and wait till 2020 saga. be practical and spend more energy on how to amend compromise bill so that most dreamers are included. anything else is living in a denial. I can foresee scotus taking this case just before or after November and stopping DACA.

DACAgogue 06-26-2018 11:38 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by lonelydreamer (Post 711589)
so DACA is destined to doom if it reaches supreme court, bad day for dreamers.
should we still wait for 2020, 2024 or beyond for a clean dream act or a CIR, when democrats will have super majority and POTUS and they allow dreamer issue to take center stage or ask them now to support compromise bill with amendments to include most dreamers?

I think if we play our cards right, we definitely can get something in 2040 or 2044. Once Latinos are the majority, DREAMers and CIR should take center stage. I know 2040 is just a few years away so let's hold out hope till then. It's only been 18 some years since the DREAM act fight, we can fight on for another 20+!

JohannBernoulli1667 06-26-2018 11:56 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by DACAgogue (Post 711609)
I think if we play our cards right, we definitely can get something in 2040 or 2044. Once Latinos are the majority, DREAMers and CIR should take center stage. I know 2040 is just a few years away so let's hold out hope till then. It's only been 18 some years since the DREAM act fight, we can fight on for another 20+!

Latinos voted Trump into office.

JohannBernoulli1667 06-26-2018 11:57 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
This ruling basically basically lays the ground work for DACA repeal. The same argument will be used.

DACAgogue 06-26-2018 11:58 AM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 711610)
Latinos voted Trump into office.

I guess we're royally fucked then now arent we bud.

Worst case, we hold out until 2060. I think we'll be squared away by then. Hopefully aged out dreamers are covered then as we

jwxie518 06-26-2018 12:00 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by lonelydreamer (Post 711589)
so DACA is destined to doom if it reaches supreme court, bad day for dreamers.
should we still wait for 2020, 2024 or beyond for a clean dream act or a CIR, when democrats will have super majority and POTUS and they allow dreamer issue to take center stage or ask them now to support compromise bill with amendments to include most dreamers?

lmao super majority! hahaha

IamAman 06-26-2018 12:02 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 711593)
Weak, pathetic and spineless Democrats gave it up without a fight. SAD!

What could they have done when the Republicans had the Senate?

dreamer12345 06-26-2018 12:31 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
DACA's chances of surviving SCOTUS just went from nill to none.

dtrt09 06-26-2018 12:35 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 711614)
What could they have done when the Republicans had the Senate?

Come on, @IamAman, you are kidding, right?

They could gave done LOTS. They were supposed to hit the ground running and they wsnted to build consensus rather than decisively solve the issue.

MSNBC had a very unflattering commentary on Obama and his 'silence' on the awful human rights/immigration situation in this country right now.

NotADreamerPerSe 06-26-2018 12:37 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
God awful. The whole country is just spiraling out of control.
My mom almost had a heart attack reading this. I'm from Venezuela and about to file my papers for the 601A waiver. She thought it meant all Venezuelans and not just government officials and their families.

Outsider626 06-26-2018 12:59 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
When will Daca go to Supreme Court? I expire in March 2019. Don't want to lose months.

ECW 06-26-2018 01:04 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Renewal will stop next month

carnivore 06-26-2018 01:16 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
So fucking sick of this uncertainty.

But i don't see how this has anything to do with DACA.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-26-2018 01:24 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by lonelydreamer (Post 711607)
does your rhetoric help the situation? if you are thinking democrats will win 218 house seats, 60 senate seats and unseat Trump in 2020, you are drinking a cool aid.
even if that happens there is no guarantee crying chuck will let immigration occupies the whole stage and they go big on CIR and all 60 democrat senators and 218 house democrats will be on board. dont be a Nero, Rome has already started burning. stop your blue wave nonsense and wait till 2020 saga. be practical and spend more energy on how to amend compromise bill so that most dreamers are included. anything else is living in a denial. I can foresee scotus taking this case just before or after November and stopping DACA.



“Republicans forever!”

This is what your huge ass post is saying

anon.nona 06-26-2018 01:34 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Are any of you who just got renewed thinking about renewing again? I mean, last time they seemed to hold on to our applications until the 150 day window kicked in, maybe they'll hold on to them again.

Thoughts?

carnivore 06-26-2018 01:35 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
STOP SPREADING FEAR

this has nothing to do with DACA!

"The [order] is expressly premised on legitimate purposes: preventing entry of nationals who cannot be adequately vetted and inducing other nations to improve their practices,"

We are VETTED and integrated in society. They CANNOT use that argument against us.

STOP!!!

Lambo Mercy 06-26-2018 01:36 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Who wants to move to wakanda with me?

2MoreYears 06-26-2018 01:37 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 711627)
STOP SPREADING FEAR

this has nothing to do with DACA!

"The [order] is expressly premised on legitimate purposes: preventing entry of nationals who cannot be adequately vetted and inducing other nations to improve their practices,"

We are VETTED and integrated in society. They CANNOT use that argument against us.

STOP!!!

Ditto.

Busybee 06-26-2018 01:38 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 711627)
STOP SPREADING FEAR

this has nothing to do with DACA!

"The [order] is expressly premised on legitimate purposes: preventing entry of nationals who cannot be adequately vetted and inducing other nations to improve their practices,"

We are VETTED and integrated in society. They CANNOT use that argument against us.

STOP!!!

You are right on this. We have been integrated and most of us are hard working, contributing members of society. It would be morally wrong to throw us into the wolves and very bad press for the US government to do nothing about it.

A part of me is freaking out, but a part of me is telling me to remain resilient and optimistic that at the end, everything will be okay and we will have a future here.

Busybee 06-26-2018 01:39 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by Lambo Mercy (Post 711628)
Who wants to move to wakanda with me?

LOL, I am down for that :P

BestBefore1984 06-26-2018 01:41 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 711627)
STOP SPREADING FEAR

this has nothing to do with DACA!

"The [order] is expressly premised on legitimate purposes: preventing entry of nationals who cannot be adequately vetted and inducing other nations to improve their practices,"

We are VETTED and integrated in society. They CANNOT use that argument against us.

STOP!!!

I agree with you my man.

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but please advise how this pertains to DACA? This should belong in Off-Topic forum. People freakin out. Someone is going to get a heart attack.



BTW

How can a brother change his location on this thing? It says im from California, but I cant find anywhere to change that. Thanks in advance.

carnivore 06-26-2018 01:42 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Rescind this thread now!!!

Copper 06-26-2018 01:52 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
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Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 711633)
Rescind this thread now!!!

The News Room Guidelines
Get up to date or post breaking news. One thread per news item pertaining to the DREAM Act and related issues.

This is revelant to Daca because our case will be heading to the Supreme Court and it gives us an idea of how the judges will vote like.

The fact that the Supreme Court has recently voted 5-4 on gay issues, California abortion laws, and now the Muslim ban, ALL in FAVOR of Trump, most likely gives us an idea of where our future is heading towards.

Rather than complaining and spending all of you’re energy about a thread, maybe you can spend that time and energy calling you’re state senators and local congressmen to pass a solution now before it’s too late. This isn’t fear mongering, it’s called REALITY.

dreamer__13 06-26-2018 01:55 PM

Re: Breaking: Supreme Court Gives Trump a Win on Travel Ban
 
Sounds like fear mongering to me.


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