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Red neck 07-18-2018 09:26 AM

Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
While much of the nation's attention has been focused of late on the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy that led to thousands of separated families along the southern border with Mexico, a lawsuit filed in federal court on Tuesday is a reminder of another looming immigration battle.

The Center for Immigration Studies, a group that has advised the Trump administration on immigration policy and advocates for lower levels of legal and illegal immigration, filed suit in the District of Columbia to force the government to turn over data on people enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA.

That Obama-era program has shielded from deportation 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children, but President Donald Trump announced last year he would terminate it. A federal judge ordered the program to remain active, and the Supreme Court is expected to ultimately decide its fate later this year.

That delay has allowed Congress to put DACA on the back burner for months, but Tuesday's lawsuit shows how contentious the battle over those "Dreamers" will get if the Supreme Court strikes the program down and Congress must decide whether to spare it.

In its lawsuit, the center asked a judge to force the government to release reams of data from applications filed by DACA applicants. The suit is not requesting personal information, only a tally of how applicants answered certain questions.

Those questions include where the applicants were born, what U.S. zip codes they're currently living in, and whether they'd ever been deported. Much of the data the group is seeking focuses on any possible criminal history that the applicants listed, including any arrests, charges or convictions on a wide variety of crimes.

Jessica Vaughan, policy director for the Center for Immigration Studies, said the data is needed because little is publicly known about the group and a thorough analysis is needed before Congress takes any steps to grant them long-term deportation protections or legal U.S. residency.

"This will enable policymakers and the public to assess the impact of this controversial program on American communities," Vaughan said. "Congress should not be making legislation based on advocacy group press releases and social media memes; it needs accurate information, ideally from the federal government's own records."

Sanaa Abrar, advocacy director for United We Dream, an organization made up of young undocumented immigrants, said it was clear that the Center for Immigration Studies is simply trying to paint DACA recipients in the worst possible light. For example, the lawsuit does not ask the government to compile data on answers detailing military service, or graduation from colleges or universities.

"What they're seeking is a very criminalizing, singular portrayal of immigrant youth," Abrar said. "I'm not surprised given the track record and history of that center."

The Center for Immigration Studies has served as the research arm of a group of organizations that advocate for lower levels of immigration. Its officials have regularly testified before Congress on immigration legislation, and one of its fellows, Ronald Mortensen, was nominated in May by Trump to head the State Department's refugee and migration program.

But the group has also come under fire for its positions, most notably by the Southern Poverty Law Center which labeled it a "hate group" last year. The center has fought back against that accusation, arguing it's irresponsible to liken a group that carefully crafts policy positions for less immigration with violent groups that truly preach hatred like the Klu Klux Klan.

"(The Southern Poverty Law Center) allegations are false and malicious, and intended to smear out organization, apparently because this once-reputable group does not agree with our policy recommendations," Vaughan said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uit/791315002/

2MoreYears 07-18-2018 09:31 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Not gonna happen. IMO

DanielPL 07-18-2018 10:09 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Shit I don't know what to think of this

carnivore 07-18-2018 10:35 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Nothing wrong with this. They just want data about us because they want to know us better, i.e. our accomplishments, hopes and dreams.

EMejia 07-18-2018 10:35 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Do they not know that if we had a bad background such as a felony we wouldn’t have got approved?

JayR9 07-18-2018 11:28 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
This group is going to make some alternative facts with the data about how big of a drain we are on the economy. How we take professional jobs that could go to Americans.

JohannBernoulli1667 07-18-2018 11:29 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Bunch of idiots. They aren't going to get shit.

vft1008 07-18-2018 12:24 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Fucking racist pigs.



Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivore (Post 714060)
Nothing wrong with this. They just want data about us because they want to know us better, i.e. our accomplishments, hopes and dreams.

Did you even fucking read the article?

DogJuiceMan 07-18-2018 12:41 PM

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We need to ask the government to turn over data on CIS, including tax returns. I'm sure theres a tax violation somewhere in that shady business.

You dont make profit by being a hate filled organization targeting the most hardworking and well educated peoples.

Jose89 07-18-2018 12:44 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Why do they need our data? They already did a background check on us, we all pretty much have clean backgrounds. Let us be!

DogJuiceMan 07-18-2018 12:46 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose89 (Post 714080)
Why do they need our data? They already did a background check on us, we all pretty much have clean backgrounds. Let us be!

Please become literate if you want to immigrate to the US, in the article it says:

The Center for Immigration Studies, a group that has advised the Trump administration on immigration policy and advocates for lower levels of legal and illegal immigration, filed suit in the District of Columbia to force the government to turn over data on people enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA.


Literally the second paragraph in.

Mercpop 07-18-2018 12:57 PM

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The reason its a big deal is that the CIS id biased. They arent getting information of our "achievements and dreams." They're going to use information that will make us look bad.

jorgeag92 07-18-2018 01:19 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
The Center for Immigration Studies wants immigration data...to study it obviously. They will get it. What they do and how they express the results of their studies might fuck us or help us, but we shall see.

DogJuiceMan 07-18-2018 01:29 PM

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CIS is an organization that only aims to harm us. They hate that we have DACA, they hate that were here, they want to see us all defeated and powerless.

vft1008 07-18-2018 01:50 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
For those of you that did not read the article, at least read this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 714057)
Sanaa Abrar, advocacy director for United We Dream, an organization made up of young undocumented immigrants, said it was clear that the Center for Immigration Studies is simply trying to paint DACA recipients in the worst possible light. For example, the lawsuit does not ask the government to compile data on answers detailing military service, or graduation from colleges or universities.

It biased cherry-picking of the data available to make us look as bad as possible.

lonelydreamer 07-18-2018 02:32 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 714089)
CIS is an organization that only aims to harm us. They hate that we have DACA, they hate that were here, they want to see us all defeated and powerless.

CIS is a hate group identified by southern poverty group, other similar groups like Number USA, FAIR etc were started by a eugenics, John H. Tanton. they are white nationalist and neo nazi. they want all non-whites removed from USA. they are going to use any information to prepare the case against DACA. many of their members were hired by Trump admin in key positions in DHS/USCIS and are behind all these anti-immigration policies by the admin.

MIdreamer 07-18-2018 03:42 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
They should also ask for data on how much taxes DACA recipients are contributing. What kind of jobs we are holding and our overall education level.

vft1008 07-18-2018 04:00 PM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 714121)
They should also ask for data on how much taxes DACA recipients are contributing. What kind of jobs we are holding and our overall education level.

And how much we have paid to USCIS for our apps and biometrics (initial apps and renewals) and maybe even cross compare that to the shit job they did in 2016 where many people received a very late/delayed EAD despite doing everything as requested and on time.

TexasDreamy 07-18-2018 11:19 PM

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Yeah, this is definitely here to make us look bad. They'll find that 1% of DACA applicants had some sort of criminal record -- and instead of saying "1%! That's way lower than the national average!" they'll say "HUNDREDS OF DACA RECIPIENTS ARE FELONS, MURDERS, AND GANG MEMBERS."

Task_1539 07-19-2018 03:17 AM

Re: Looming debate over DACA program spurs federal lawsuit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 714121)
They should also ask for data on how much taxes DACA recipients are contributing. What kind of jobs we are holding and our overall education level.

Well, they do ask about our annual income.


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