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Outsider626 01-19-2019 02:26 PM

Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fundin
 
The President's latest offer, which he is set to deliver from the White House Saturday at 4 p.m. ET, will link his demand for $5.7 billion for a border wall to the BRIDGE Act, legislation that would extend protections for so-called "Dreamers," undocumented immigrants who arrived in the US as children and are covered by the DACA program.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/polit...ump/index.html

Chilango_Tejano 01-19-2019 02:28 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
I just hope they allow travel

https://goo.gl/images/vg9DVp

Outsider626 01-19-2019 02:31 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilango_Tejano (Post 728730)
I just hope they allow travel

https://goo.gl/images/vg9DVp

I would take Bridge Act with free travel and no AP bullshit.

devhinwar 01-19-2019 02:32 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 728735)
I would take Bridge Act with free travel and no AP bullshit.

yea same

Marco956 01-19-2019 02:32 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Renewable BRIDGE with travel and im in

Afridi786 01-19-2019 02:33 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
There's 3 threads on the exact same thing.

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 02:38 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Dems should counter:

Offer 1 - $1.5 Billion + BRIDGE Act
Offer 2 - $3.5 Bilion + BRIDGE Act + TPS
Offer 3 - $5.7 Billion + Dream/USA Act + TPS

Malign0n 01-19-2019 02:40 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco956 (Post 728737)
Renewable BRIDGE with travel and im in

There is no provision for travel outside the US with the Bridge Act. AP was allowed under regulation that is now rescinded and would probably not be enacted again.

So bridge act is 3 year DACA with no travel

Afridi786 01-19-2019 02:41 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 728739)
Dems should counter:

Offer 1 - $1.5 Billion + BRIDGE Act
Offer 2 - $3.5 Bilion + BRIDGE Act + TPS
Offee 3 - $5.7 Billion + Dream/USA Act + TPS

They can't even counter without Trump blaming the shutdown on them over illegals, that's the problem.

kyungwc 01-19-2019 02:49 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Do you guys think if the Democrats accepted this deal, that Trump would really sign it? (Could you imagine him offering a deal, the dems accepting it, and Trump saying that it's a bad deal and won't sign?)

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 02:52 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
its gotta be the Dream Act.

its poetic justice that way.

tabi 01-19-2019 02:57 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
I wouldn't be surprised if trump freaks out over right wing noise and tries to tack on asylum and immigration nonsense. Even though he just doing this since they think daca won't be taken up by the court. Try to look like the deal maker even though you're barely doing much.

georgeb1214 01-19-2019 02:58 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
I have a question if trump offers bridge act. Can’t they change the provision. Revamp the bill like include travel and such?

trac3rt 01-19-2019 02:59 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
*sigh* It is all excitement, until he posts a tweet completely changing his mind.

2Face 01-19-2019 03:03 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Democrats have to COME TO THE TABLE at least, simple as that. They can go from there and start negotiating but unless they come to the table, ain't nothing going to happen and nobody is going to be blaming Trump I can tell you that. They've clearly low balled us but it is something. The compromise has to be respected by coming to the table.

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 03:03 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
they can always add language to it but Republicans wont allow travel for illegals bcuz they are gung ho about national security and is seen as a loophole to AOS in the future for EWIs.

Trump prolly wont allow it either, if it was a Dem President, they can always reinstate AP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeb1214 (Post 728750)
I have a question if trump offers bridge act. Can’t they change the provision. Revamp the bill like include travel and such?


BestBefore1984 01-19-2019 03:06 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 728754)
they can always add language to it but Republicans wont allow travel for illegals bcuz they are gung ho about national security and is seen as a loophole to AOS in the future for EWIs.

Trump prolly wont allow it either, if it was a Dem President, they can always reinstate AP.

If they are really concerned with national security, they should look into the gun laws and state of mental health of this country.

versailles 01-19-2019 03:08 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 728753)
Democrats have to COME TO THE TABLE at least, simple as that. They can go from there and start negotiating but unless they come to the table, ain't nothing going to happen and nobody is going to be blaming Trump I can tell you that. They've clearly low balled us but it is something. The compromise has to be respected by coming to the table.

I mean, they can blame him but the public perception here is of trump standing his ground over border security, which is something people aren’t dramatically opposed to. Dems haven’t been doing enough to change their image of pelosi refusing everything, and im positive the progressives are bound to hijack any probable deal.

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 03:08 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
the offer was to save face cuz they are losing public opinion over the shutdown. why didnt they include and inform Dems on this offer? its only Republicans.

its a proposal thats gonna go nowhere. we already have temporary protections. Pres Trump gotta cave on a path to citizenship.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 728753)
Democrats have to COME TO THE TABLE at least, simple as that. They can go from there and start negotiating but unless they come to the table, ain't nothing going to happen and nobody is going to be blaming Trump I can tell you that. They've clearly low balled us but it is something. The compromise has to be respected by coming to the table.


isk84life 01-19-2019 03:18 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
@mkraju

“Not much support among Dems for this Trump plan on two fronts: they want permanent protections for DACA recipients, not just temporary. Plus they want to reopen government first before immigration talks. Shutdown continues.”

jorgeag92 01-19-2019 03:20 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Dems wont accept. Bridge act is a shitty deal for 5.7b. And they wont counter offer either because as soon as they do, the shutdown becomes about dems protecting illegals. The Republican side has to offer something better

Outsider626 01-19-2019 03:27 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
CNN are saying Dems will not accept Bridge Act because dreamers have protection for another year or so. Smart. We need USA Act at least. No point for them to cave for Bridge Act.

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 03:28 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
we need DJM to make sense of all this.

versailles 01-19-2019 03:30 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 728767)
CNN are saying Dems will not accept Bridge Act because dreamers have protection for another year or so. Smart. We need USA Act at least. No point for them to cave for Bridge Act.

it shouldn’t be because of that but because it’s not enough. I’d wipe my ass with the BRIDGE act.
good starting point though.

BestBefore1984 01-19-2019 03:31 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 728768)
we need DJM to make sense of all this.

I sense sarcasm here, because I struggle at times understanding his discombobulated thoughts. He sounds like someone with Wernike's Aphasia or some type of cognitive speech impediment lol. I like the dude though,


Where you at DJM

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
yeah lmao.

hes a good dude, DJM is fam to me.

we bullshit alot on here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 728770)
I sense sarcasm here, because I struggle at times understanding his discombobulated thoughts. He sounds like someone with Wernike's Aphasia or some type of cognitive speech impediment lol. I like the dude though,


IamAman 01-19-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
DACA already IS a temporary protection and thanks to the Texas lawsuit, it would still be at risk even if he left it in place. The only way this would be worth the while for Democrats is a USA or Dream Act...which doesn't leave people out and can eventually provide some sort of a pathway out of this mess.

2Face 01-19-2019 03:39 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 728767)
CNN are saying Dems will not accept Bridge Act because dreamers have protection for another year or so. Smart. We need USA Act at least. No point for them to cave for Bridge Act.

This tells me they are willing to come to the table and start negotiating and putting in offers at least! Surely Pelosi is not stupid to continue with the "no negotiating" attitude!

Alfredo93 01-19-2019 03:42 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
10b + Dream Act lets do this!!!

#MAGA!

always_learner11 01-19-2019 03:54 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
If nothing else, Trump has made DACA a national issue. Trump's announcement may get more Republicans on our side, even if nothing passes this year or next.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxTEwQeW0AASb_t.jpg

Afridi786 01-19-2019 03:56 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by always_learner11 (Post 728788)
If nothing else, Trump has made DACA a national issue. Trump's announcement may get more Republicans on our side, even if nothing passes this year or next.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxTEwQeW0AASb_t.jpg

Fuck you Durbin. Negotiate!

CUSenior 01-19-2019 03:57 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 728789)
Fuck you Durbin.

Fuck you Afridi

Marshall 01-19-2019 03:58 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Remember the "deal" that was offered last year

$25B for DACA but significantly reduce legal immigration....... we should expect something like this because they know dems will never agree to it. We've been down this road several times. This man is not interested in giving relief; outside of just not having any kinda moral fortitude to do it he will get destroyed by the Limbaughs of his party.

jaylove16 01-19-2019 03:59 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 728789)
Fuck you Durbin. Negotiate!

He is negotiating smh. Can you read?

Afridi786 01-19-2019 03:59 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 728790)
Fuck you Afridi

Fuck you too buddy.

Afridi786 01-19-2019 04:00 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 728792)
He is negotiating smh. Can you read?

He said end the shutdown, then we'll talk. You know damn well, if that happens, Trump won't get what he wants and he won't give Dems what they want. There's no negotiations right now.

dreamer__13 01-19-2019 04:02 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 728794)
He said end the shutdown, then we'll talk. You know damn well, if that happens, Trump won't get what he wants and he won't give Dems what they want. There's no negotiations right now.

Why would Durbin support the Bridge Act when DACA is still in place. That’s pointless. A bandaid over another bandaid.

libertarian1776 01-19-2019 04:02 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
dont worry dreamer fam.

our issue will be solved in this life or the next. lol

Smooth 01-19-2019 04:05 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Trump should hold the line because Democrats will not give him shit once he re-opens the government.

Afridi786 01-19-2019 04:05 PM

Re: Trump expected to propose extending DACA, TPS protections in exchange for wall fu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 728795)
Why would Durbin support the Bridge Act when DACA is still in place. That’s pointless. A bandaid over another bandaid.

I don't blame him for not supporting the Bridge act, I blame them for not negotiating at all.


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