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legendver2 02-25-2019 10:34 PM

New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...to-Motion.html

Not sure what this all means. Anyone with knowledge of legal lingo explain?

Adrian2145 02-25-2019 10:52 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Renewals will continue, Paxton fails again.
Page 12, court does not grant summary judgement to plaintiffs.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-25-2019 11:02 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
2Face,Smooth and these dap redHats who want daca dead in rooooinns

libertarian1776 02-25-2019 11:03 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Paxton is what 0-3 now? idk i lost track..

Copper 02-25-2019 11:15 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Paxton should stop using as a distraction to his corruption case. I’m glad he took another loss!

DACAgogue 02-25-2019 11:21 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
What....no where does it say the summer judgement is denied. This the Trump admin responding.....

DACAgogue 02-25-2019 11:32 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian2145 (Post 733894)
Renewals will continue, Paxton fails again.
Page 12, court does not grant summary judgement to plaintiffs.

Fucking idiot

Malign0n 02-25-2019 11:52 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
That bears good news for higher appellate court rulings

nada0012 02-26-2019 12:03 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Yeah, you should see his wife trying to pass a law that will help him out with his felony charge

http://www.kut.org/post/sen-paxton-f...securities-law

nada0012 02-26-2019 12:05 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
And yes Angela Paxton (Ken Paxton's wife) is a Texas State Senator.

TexasDreamy 02-26-2019 12:51 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Welp. This is extra bad news for us, amigos.

libertarian1776 02-26-2019 01:06 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
how so? its the same shit that happens ending in nothing. we thought somethings gonna happen on Friday and the Friday before that and the Friday 3 mos ago.

what comes out in all of this? nothing.

nothing is gonna happen till it hits the Supreme Court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreamy (Post 733907)
Welp. This is extra bad news for us, amigos.


Demise 02-26-2019 01:08 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 733893)
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...to-Motion.html

Not sure what this all means. Anyone with knowledge of legal lingo explain?

It's just response filed to the court, it doesn't mean anything.

john_smith 02-26-2019 04:34 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
The question is. Why is this mofo not in jail. If people are put in jail some times for a traffic stop, why this felon not in jail. They need more aggressive prosecutors and judges for his selfish son of a gun

TexasDreamy 02-26-2019 09:28 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 733909)
how so? its the same shit that happens ending in nothing. we thought somethings gonna happen on Friday and the Friday before that and the Friday 3 mos ago.

what comes out in all of this? nothing.

nothing is gonna happen till it hits the Supreme Court.

Because the federal defendants are saying “yup, we agree - it’s illegal. Also, there’s no difference between DAPA and DACA - you even said so - so just end it.”

cmeow 02-26-2019 10:05 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreamy (Post 733918)
Because the federal defendants are saying “yup, we agree - it’s illegal. Also, there’s no difference between DAPA and DACA - you even said so - so just end it.”

That's how it's always been, no? The Trump administration never actually defended DACA in court in any of the circuits. The AGs stepped in. In Texas, I think the AG from another state (MA if I remember correctly) flew to Texas and defended DACA.

TexasDreamy 02-26-2019 10:19 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 733919)
That's how it's always been, no? The Trump administration never actually defended DACA in court in any of the circuits. The AGs stepped in. In Texas, I think the AG from another state (MA if I remember correctly) flew to Texas and defended DACA.

Right - so at this point what does the court say? How do you guys see the court proceedings going?

What possible legal argument can be made gives how all of the legal arguments here have already been made?

cmeow 02-26-2019 10:40 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreamy (Post 733920)
Right - so at this point what does the court say? How do you guys see the court proceedings going?

What possible legal argument can be made gives how all of the legal arguments here have already been made?

I think if something negative comes out of this, it'll kick dems into gear and they'll become serious (if they're not already serious. If they are they're going to speed things up). So far they haven't made a noticeable win on immigration while Trump has (yes it might be tied up in the courts but his base won't care). Another blow to DACA will make dems seem incompetent and boost republicans' saying "dems are only using dreamers for votes"

The tides turn when people start believing republicans, it'll actually hurt dems because people will think "if dems can't get something with 70%+ public support and some republican sympathy passed through congress, how can they do anything?" and start questioning what they're promising in the 2020 election (that's not DACA related). In short, if republicans force dems on dreamers before the election, dems will fight hard, at least harder than they are now.

Dems need an anchor. Something they promised and something they can cling on to as real policy and it's passed as law, especially during election season. That way it's not just all talk. The most likely thing that fits in this political climate is dreamers. In all honesty, I believe that's what happened to the 25 bil for DACA deal. The problem then was the 4 pillars thrown in and dems had no real leverage to negotiate anything. Dems also put too much into it now (Schumer shutdown the government for 3 days and Pelosi gave a long speech in the House) for them to just shrug and do nothing.

Ultimately, I think DACA will renew until SCOTUS decides or something passes in Congress. Dreamers' fate is with Congress, not the Judicial branch. They can delay / speed up Congress' priorities though.

IamAman 02-26-2019 11:25 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 733896)
Paxton is what 0-3 now? idk i lost track..

1-3. He killed expanded DACA :(

fl_dreamer 02-26-2019 12:35 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 733922)
1-3. He killed expanded DACA :(

Which would have survived if Obama didn't overreach and try to include DAPA. The public opinion on people coming here illegally and popping U.S. citizen kids is not very favorable --- understandably so.

DACA-IR-DA 02-26-2019 07:55 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 733925)
Which would have survived if Obama didn't overreach and try to include DAPA. The public opinion on people coming here illegally and popping U.S. citizen kids is not very favorable --- understandably so.

eDACA was like a day away from becoming into policy.

libertarian1776 02-26-2019 08:29 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
sucks...

your body was ready huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733936)
eDACA was like a day away from becoming out into policy.


Demise 02-26-2019 11:07 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 733938)
sucks...

your body was ready huh?

He's a PR now. I kinda understood it back when he had something riding on it.

DACA-IR-DA 02-27-2019 03:04 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 733938)
sucks...

your body was ready huh?

Ready for what? You mean my application process?

Lambo Mercy 02-27-2019 06:16 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733945)
Ready for what? You mean my application process?

Lmao.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-27-2019 02:14 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733936)
eDACA was like a day away from becoming into policy.

Congrats on getting the Green card!

Where are you planning to go? Any trips planned?

DACA-IR-DA 02-27-2019 02:21 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 733950)
Congrats on getting the Green card!

Where are you planning to go? Any trips planned?

Thank you.

Few countries for fun.

isk84life 02-27-2019 03:00 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733951)
Thank you.

Few countries for fun.

I just got engaged. Time to get married. I'll see you in Cancun, Paris, and Tokyo soon lol

vft1008 02-27-2019 03:21 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733951)
Thank you.

Few countries for fun.

But will you send post cards to aged out dreamers?

JohannBernoulli1667 02-27-2019 03:29 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 733952)
I just got engaged. Time to get married. I'll see you in Cancun, Paris, and Tokyo soon lol

Congrats, that is definitely a smart move.

I will see you in Paris

IamAman 02-27-2019 04:25 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 733925)
Which would have survived if Obama didn't overreach and try to include DAPA. The public opinion on people coming here illegally and popping U.S. citizen kids is not very favorable --- understandably so.

Yeah, it would have been a bleep instead of a splash but there were so many protests and hecklers asking him why he wouldn't do something.

DACA-IR-DA 02-27-2019 07:43 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 733953)
But will you send post cards to aged out dreamers?

I think Dream Act will soon pass.

libertarian1776 02-27-2019 08:07 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
u wont be covered since you are a permanent resident now. = (

damn bro, so u been just mocking us real dreamers this whole time? not nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733961)
I think Dream Act will soon pass.


DACA-IR-DA 02-28-2019 12:29 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 733962)
u wont be covered since you are a permanent resident now. = (

damn bro, so u been just mocking us real dreamers this whole time? not nice.

I know right LOL! I see what you did there. I never mocked anyone and I never wanted any Dreamer to not get DACA either but few here told us aged out Dreamers to get married or go elsewhere (not cool). Furthermore, I do want a clean Dream Act/CIR passed so others can benefit.

legendver2 02-28-2019 02:00 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 733970)
I know right LOL! I see what you did there. I never mocked anyone and I never wanted any Dreamer to not get DACA either but few here told us aged out Dreamers to get married or go elsewhere (not cool). Furthermore, I do want a clean Dream Act/CIR passed so others can benefit.

So you got married? Congrats if you did!

Demise 02-28-2019 02:36 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 733972)
So you got married? Congrats if you did!

He had an F1 petition and was covered under 245(i).

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-28-2019 04:05 AM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Good, I hope now DA user can finally leave us at peace and stop mocking us

isk84life 02-28-2019 02:43 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 733954)
Congrats, that is definitely a smart move.

I will see you in Paris

Hell yeah man. I'm done waiting for shit to happen. My fiancee is great so why not.

DACA-IR-DA 02-28-2019 07:57 PM

Re: New filing in State of Texas et al v. Nielsen et al: Response to Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 733972)
So you got married? Congrats if you did!

Nah, I am still a playa LOL

I was in FB1 category and used 245i to do AOS.


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