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Red neck 05-03-2019 01:14 PM

Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Party leaders are still working to win over moderates and progressives on the immigration plan.

House Democrats have shelved plans to advance legislation protecting “Dreamers” next week, delivering a setback to the caucus on a top legislative priority.

The bill is stalled because of an intraparty fight over providing citizenship to undocumented immigrants with criminal records, multiple lawmakers and aides said Thursday, and a likely committee vote is now delayed.

“Always issues when it comes to immigration, but we’ll get through it,” House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said in a brief interview after attending a meeting with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus on Thursday. “I hope it’ll get to the floor.”

The legislation, known as the DREAM Act, is now on hold, with Democrats scrambling to draft language that can secure enough votes in committee and on the floor without exposing further divides within the caucus on the thorny issue.

“Within the party there are moderates and progressives, and we all have different opinions. I’ll just leave it like that,” said Rep. Henry Cuellar, a moderate Democrat who represents a district along the U.S.-Mexico border. “We intend to put something on the floor, so I’m definitely supportive of that. But if we have to work any language out, we’ll work that language out.”



House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said earlier this week that it’s possible the DREAM Act could hit the floor this month. But that timeline is in flux amid ongoing issues with the bill, which would provide a path to citizenship for more than 2 million undocumented immigrants who came to the country as children.

Hoyer said Thursday there are some “obvious differences of opinion” but believes it will ultimately pass the House.

“I think this is getting a lot of consideration, a lot of discussion,” Hoyer said in an interview. “The objective, obviously, will be to report a bill favorably out of committee, and then on the House floor.”

The House Judiciary Committee had not formally announced that it would vote on the bill next week, and it could still consider it, if immigrant-rights advocates indicate their support for changes to the legislation.

Some Democratic sources downplayed the delayed Judiciary markup, pointing out that the committee has had a busy schedule as it handles the fallout from special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

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But Democrats are worried the bill as currently written couldn't even survive a committee markup and have privately fretted about the potential amendments Republicans will offer. Senior Democrats are also concerned that Republicans could weaponize the Dreamers bill on the floor and force immigration votes on amendments that could be tough for swing district Democrats to oppose.

Those GOP amendments, known as motions to recommit, have plagued Democrats since they took back the House in January. Democratic leaders are particularly sensitive to the possibility of Republicans scoring a procedural win — and sowing further conflict within the Democratic Caucus — on one of their marquee pieces of legislation.

“We want to see the bill go through as written, and not get distracted by sideshows,” said Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We’re just trying to get people to understand what the MTR is and not have us get lost in the details.”

Republicans took a similar approach in February on a gun control bill that succeeded in dramatic fashion. GOP leaders forced Democrats to vote on an amendment that would have notified Immigration and Customs Enforcement if an undocumented immigrant tried to purchase a firearm.

Twenty-six Democrats broke ranks to support the GOP’s language, depriving the party of a total political victory on the day that it passed universal background checks.





The bill, authored by Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.), would allow undocumented immigrants to commit three misdemeanors before they’re disqualified from seeking citizenship.

But some Democrats worry the language in the bill is too broad and want to consider changes so that committing only certain misdemeanors would allow people to remain on the path to citizenship.

The prospect of further narrowing access to citizenship, however, has inflamed immigrant-rights supporters and some liberal lawmakers.

This issue came to a head at a meeting of Judiciary Democrats on Tuesday during which Rep. Pramila Jayapal said it would be hard for her to back the bill if changes are made that are opposed by immigrant-rights groups, according to multiple sources.

Jayapal’s office disputed that, with an aide saying, “She is not publicly or privately threatening to pull any kind of support.”

Now lawmakers are waiting to hear from prominent advocacy groups, including United We Dream, on what tweaks they could support to allow the bill to move forward.

Bruna Bouhid-Sollod, a spokeswoman for United We Dream, said the group “wholeheartedly” supports passage of the bill but did not comment on whether the group would support potential tweaks to the current bill to make it more palatable to moderate Democrats.

Roybal-Allard also declined to comment on potential amendments under discussion but said in a statement she is working with the committee as the bill moves forward.

“I am looking forward to the Judiciary Committee’s consideration of my bill, when every committee member will have the opportunity to express their views about the bill and suggest revisions,” Roybal-Allard wrote in a statement, adding that her bill would be “a historic victory” for Dreamers, the economy and the country.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...s-bill-1299320

So basically nothing is getting done...

beingoflight 05-03-2019 01:23 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Wow so DACA will be striked down on July then.

Its now or never.

Got_Daca 05-03-2019 01:56 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Even Dems cant agree on DACAs future

JavierHTx 05-03-2019 03:20 PM

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Guess I better renew my DACA lol

DogJuiceMan 05-03-2019 04:06 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
How is this even a problem? If they have criminal records they should get thrown out. However, traffic citations like no license should be waved with a large fine of $4,000 per violation.

Money should be used to rebuild american infrastructure.

How is it that DAP can solve problems easily, whereas congress can't even tie its own shoes.

Red neck 05-03-2019 04:11 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 735939)
How is this even a problem? If they have criminal records they should get thrown out. However, traffic citations like no license should be waved with a large fine of $4,000 per violation.

Money should be used to rebuild american infrastructure.

How is it that DAP can solve problems easily, whereas congress can't even tie its own shoes.

because we have groups like UWD that want all 11 million legalized

beingoflight 05-03-2019 04:15 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Fucking bullshit, they are waiting for United We Dream..

We are fucking fucked

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-03-2019 04:31 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
It’s a good thing Republicans who actually get shit done are going to save us from these EVIL DemocRATS

PapiChulo 05-03-2019 04:59 PM

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Republicans are truly terrorists and are enemy of the people!

Hallowpoint1911 05-03-2019 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 735942)
It’s a good thing Republicans who actually get shit done are going to save us from these EVIL DemocRATS

You’re full of shit. Republicans aren’t going to save us. Please stop posting dumb shit.

PapiChulo 05-03-2019 05:14 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallowpoint1911 (Post 735952)
You’re full of shit. Republicans aren’t going to save us. Please stop posting dumb shit.

very sad that Pianos is now the biggest Trump supporter on this site. (he's always been a DACA wannabe red hat.)

vft1008 05-03-2019 05:18 PM

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So much wrong in this topic.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-03-2019 07:18 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
RepubliCAN heroes are busy right now drafting a proposal to shoot down anything evil the DemocRATS have planned. 2Face, Smooth and Liberterian say so.

Demise 05-03-2019 07:22 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 735939)
How is this even a problem? If they have criminal records they should get thrown out. However, traffic citations like no license should be waved with a large fine of $4,000 per violation.

Money should be used to rebuild american infrastructure.

How is it that DAP can solve problems easily, whereas congress can't even tie its own shoes.

We could honestly just apply the existing standards of multiple criminal convictions and crimes involving moral turpitude. Let whoever has either of those to see a waiver.

Still this is a difficult topic, should we waive false claim of citizenship or fraudulent entry? Medical (including psychological) reasons? This bill hitting a snag at the committee is nothing unusual unfortunately.

Hallowpoint1911 05-03-2019 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 735967)
RepubliCAN heroes are busy right now drafting a proposal to shoot down anything evil the DemocRATS have planned. 2Face, Smooth and Liberterian say so.

You're a special kind of stupid. I can't take you serious.

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 12:10 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Republicans are truly the enemy of the people.

but DACA REDHAT WANNABES like 2Face and Pianos continue to support Trump on this forum.. unbelievable.

catportal 05-04-2019 12:20 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Getting advice from United We Dream? Democrats are clueless.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 12:32 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 735980)
Republicans are truly the enemy of the people.

but DACA REDHAT WANNABES like 2Face and Pianos continue to support Trump on this forum.. unbelievable.

so many EDITS

that meltdown was amazing!!

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 12:48 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
sO mAnY eDiTs

tHaT mElTdOwN wAs AmAzInG!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 735983)
so many EDITS

that meltdown was amazing!!


DogJuiceMan 05-04-2019 10:44 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
I don't know why you guys keep falling for Pianos(Trump's) fairly obvious troll bait.

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 12:19 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 735967)
RepubliCAN heroes are busy right now drafting a proposal to shoot down anything evil the DemocRATS have planned. 2Face, Smooth and Liberterian say so.

This is your full-time job. You're so affected & triggered by 2Face, Smooth, and Liberterian/Papi Chulo that they live in your head rent free for years. The trauma they have on you is best seen in your post history. I'm certain that you dream about them constantly.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Another edited post?!! What’s up with you writing paragraphs now

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 735989)
Another edited post?!! What’s up with you writing paragraphs now

Keep weeping :cry: for me and the rest of the users that trigger you. It's like you enjoy being insulted, bullied and tormented by us in debates, you are a masochist validation seeking dog. Otherwise, you wouldn't follow us around trying to initiate arguments. We have you in a leash like a little, submissive dog.

soypana 05-04-2019 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 735991)
Keep weeping :cry: for me and the rest of the users that trigger you. It's like you enjoy being insulted, bullied and tormented by us in debates, you are a masochist validation seeking dog. Otherwise, you wouldn't follow us around trying to initiate arguments. We have you in a leash like a little, submissive dog.

Don't edit your post or he will burn you with that lol.

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 04:24 PM

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its the lamest comeback tho... my dude never heard of proofreading.

“yOu eDiTeD yOuR pOst.”

But But But Republicans are suppose to be our friends right?!


Quote:

Originally Posted by soypana (Post 735992)
Don't edit your post or he will burn you with that lol.


Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 07:17 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Yikes!!! Broken record players everywhere!!!!


Aiy dios mio!!

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 07:20 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
ermahmgerrd yIkEs bRoKeN rEcOrD plaYer!!!

AiY dIoS mIo!!

but but but but this has nothing do with Republicans and those damn DemonCRATS!!!

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 09:49 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
you’re trying so damn hard lmao I love that I was able to literally force you to play along with this new satire gimmick of yours

Redhats dreamers just can’t grt enough of winning

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 09:50 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
yOurE tRyIng sO dAmN hArD lMaO.

but edits!

but but but i thought Republicans are our friends?!

wannabe Redhats like 2face, smooth, pianos and libertarian keep on winning!

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 10:00 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Whoa holy cow!! You don’t need to be that angry yikes!!

You all should have seen his original unedited post. What a melty! What

PapiChulo 05-04-2019 10:03 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
wHoA HoLy cOw!! yOu doNt nEeD tO bE thAt aNgrY yiKeS!!!

wHaT a MeLty!

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 10:04 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 736000)
yOurE tRyIng sO dAmN hArD lMaO.

but edits!

but but but i thought Republicans are our friends?!

wannabe Redhats like 2face, smooth, pianos and libertarian keep on winning!

Like I said, we live rent free in his head. He seeks our validation and lowkey admires when we respond to his posts.

If he was truly bothered, then he would put us on ignore or leave the site. He's our pet dog.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 10:28 PM

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Projecting much now bad bunny?

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 736004)
Projecting much now bad bunny?

Just read your signature, bro. It's obvious that you live for 2face and all the users here that bully you.

If you were truly serious on defeating the GOP, you'd be making real changes and be involved in several political organizations like UWD or the Immigration Youth Coalition.

But instead you patrol this forum trying to incite debates where you get defeated constantly. You live for the torment we give you. It's like the title of being the most despised poster gets you a hard-on.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 10:57 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
I’ll let you know I have AP points here - Do you ?

Where’s your activism huh. Oh that’s right.


It’s non existence lmao

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 11:08 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 736006)
I’ll let you know I have AP points here - Do you ?

Where’s your activism huh. Oh that’s right.


It’s non existence lmao

I'm not the one actively whining about political issues on this forum expecting a change through a series of posts on a 13-year old website.

Those AP points are an outdated system and were mostly reliant on data entry.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-04-2019 11:18 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
wow now you underestimating the work DAP has done for the dream cause?!

bad.bunny 05-04-2019 11:37 PM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 736008)
wow now you underestimating the work DAP has done for the dream cause?!

No, what I am implying is that the accumulation of AP points from years ago does not make you a political activist. If you were true to your word that the "republicans are terorirsts", you wouldn't be here making the same posts over and over again.

Anyway, I think that I'm done giving you validation/attention for the day. I know you enjoyed the treats like the good dog you are, but this is getting boring. I think it's nap time, boy.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-05-2019 12:45 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Next time sharpen your baby tiger cubs better.

BestBefore1984 05-05-2019 01:21 AM

Re: Dreamer bill stalls amid Dem divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 736009)
No, what I am implying is that the accumulation of AP points from years ago does not make you a political activist. If you were true to your word that the "republicans are terorirsts", you wouldn't be here making the same posts over and over again.

Anyway, I think that I'm done giving you validation/attention for the day. I know you enjoyed the treats like the good dog you are, but this is getting boring. I think it's nap time, boy.

Lmfao. Scortched.

Responding to Pianos is like....that one girl you kinda flirted the idea of fucking and when she opened her mouth you're instantaneously disgusted and so embarrassed with yourself that you tailspin into a deep depression.


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