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papi mango 06-17-2019 07:34 PM
NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
The New York State Senate is voting on the Green Light Bill, which would give undocumented immigrants the right to a driver's license; CBS2's Hazel Sanchez reports.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/4...ed-immigrants/

Outsider626 06-17-2019 08:09 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
How is that related to Daca and us?

And it's not going to pass anyway.

papi mango 06-17-2019 08:14 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
try to use your brain and see hows this related to us. if you don't get it then ask further. how do you know its not going to pass? what facts do you have? thanks

VJB2 06-17-2019 09:59 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737634)
How is that related to Daca and us?

And it's not going to pass anyway.
Yikes..


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/n...imes&smtyp=cur

PapiChulo 06-17-2019 10:20 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 737638)
great news, i can move to NY now!

Outsider626 06-17-2019 10:35 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 737639)
great news, i can move to NY now!
You don't have Daca?

PapiChulo 06-17-2019 10:37 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737641)
You don't have Daca?
no its a backup. if we all lose our DACA atleast we can still drive and earn through uber, lyft, doordash, etc with states that provide DLs for illegals.

always gotta be 10 steps ahead, my dude.

Outsider626 06-17-2019 10:38 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 737642)
no its a backup. if we all lose our DACA atleast we can still drive, uber, lyft, doordash, etc with states that provide DLs for illegals.

always gotta be 10 steps ahead, my dude.
My dude if you lose Daca how you going to work for uber or lyft? They will ask for workers authorization which you won't have anymore. So your only option is to work for local taxi and getting paid under table.

BestBefore1984 06-17-2019 11:28 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737644)
My dude if you lose Daca how you going to work for uber or lyft? They will ask for workers authorization which you won't have anymore. So your only option is to work for local taxi and getting paid under table.

You're a 1099 worker so you don't need work authorization.

Outsider626 06-17-2019 11:40 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 737650)
You're a 1099 worker so you don't need work authorization.
You need WA.

Federal law prohibits individuals or businesses from contracting with an independent contractor knowing that the independent contractor is not authorized to work in the U.S. (USCIS)

Not legally authorized to work means for any work regardless of the form of work or payment. It is not recommended you violate those terms. It may take time but you will get caught and when you do, you’ll find remaining in or returning to the United States in the future will be difficult, if not impossible.

So even thought Uber doesn't ask you to fill out I-9 you are still liable. And i wouldn't take that risk.

PapiChulo 06-18-2019 12:22 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737644)
My dude if you lose Daca how you going to work for uber or lyft? They will ask for workers authorization which you won't have anymore. So your only option is to work for local taxi and getting paid under table.
Uber and Doordash didnt ask me for WA when i worked for them for a bit, only my Social Security #

regardless,

we lose DACA and we automatically break immigration law and accrue illegal presence. when shit hits the fan, im already breaking the law being here illegally, last thing i would care about is if i can work legally or not, i have to provide for myself and survive.

if i lose DACA, im already breaking the law by being here, working without a work permit is least of my worries i got a SS#. got nothing to lose at that point. if i get caught then i get caught.

the point is... States that offer Driver Licenses to Undocumented makes it easier for us and gives us more options.

Outsider626 06-18-2019 12:59 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 737652)
Uber and Doordash didnt ask me for WA when i worked for them for a bit, only my Social Security #

regardless,

we lose DACA and we automatically break immigration law and accrue illegal presence. when shit hits the fan, im already breaking the law being here illegally, last thing i would care about is if i can work legally or not, i have to provide for myself and survive.

if i lose DACA, im already breaking the law by being here, working without a work permit is least of my worries i got a SS#. got nothing to lose at that point. if i get caught then i get caught.

the point is... States that offer Driver Licenses to Undocumented makes it easier for us and gives us more options.
Read what it says on your SS. ;)

PapiChulo 06-18-2019 01:00 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737653)
Read what it says on your SS. ;)
yeah its only valid with EAD.

u missed the entire point, if DACA is gone and shit hits the fan, you really think i care at that point?i gotta provide for myself and survive, im already breaking the law by being illegal without DACA. if they catch me, they catch me.

you know how many people with "SS" and no EAD work in this country? can't catch em all.

Outsider626 06-18-2019 01:02 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 737654)
yeah its only valid with EAD.

u missed the entire point, if DACA is gone and shit hits the fan, you really think i care at that point? im already breaking the law by being illegal without DACA. if they catch me, they catch me.
Daca for Life mate. It will never end.

PapiChulo 06-18-2019 01:03 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737655)
Daca for Life mate. It will never end.
yeah im just saying that these states that provide DLs to undocumented gives us more freedom and options.

i wont be riding public transportation on the bus for 3 hrs just to try and earn a living like i did before DACA, you know what i mean?

Demise 06-18-2019 06:20 AM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737634)
How is that related to Daca and us?

And it's not going to pass anyway.
NYS finally has a democratic trifecta since Republicans have held the senate since 1960s. Democrats did technically take the senate back in 2008 but a group of 8 Democrats defected to republicans giving them a 1 seat majority.

This is really why we had an overhaul of abortion laws and few other things.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 737651)
So even thought Uber doesn't ask you to fill out I-9 you are still liable. And i wouldn't take that risk.
Uber hires you as an "independent contractor", so technically you're more of an entity performing a service rather than an employee. You don't file I-9 in this case. You only sign a W-9 and get paid on a 1099. This is pretty much the same process as starting your own company and freelancing or getting hired as a contractor.

Is it illegal? Probably. Will you get rejected before you don't have an EAD? No.

nydreamer 06-18-2019 12:13 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Outsider is in this thread taking L after L.... smh.

Outsider626 06-18-2019 03:19 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nydreamer (Post 737685)
Outsider is in this thread taking L after L.... smh.
Not really. Everything i said is correct.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ix5Pk3cUofTLW/giphy.gif

Outsider626 06-18-2019 03:22 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demise (Post 737660)
NYS finally has a democratic trifecta since Republicans have held the senate since 1960s. Democrats did technically take the senate back in 2008 but a group of 8 Democrats defected to republicans giving them a 1 seat majority.

This is really why we had an overhaul of abortion laws and few other things.



Uber hires you as an "independent contractor", so technically you're more of an entity performing a service rather than an employee. You don't file I-9 in this case. You only sign a W-9 and get paid on a 1099. This is pretty much the same process as starting your own company and freelancing or getting hired as a contractor.

Is it illegal? Probably. Will you get rejected before you don't have an EAD? No.
I wrote exactly the same thing below. You don't have to rephrase what i said. At the end i was correct. Uber doesn't ask you to fill out I-9 because they don't care and not liable for you. But you are liable for yourself. So if you wanna take a risk go ahead.

DACA-IR-DA 06-18-2019 06:47 PM
Re: NY Senate Voting On Bill To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
Good. Texas should do that too.


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