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unchatkitue 06-28-2019 12:28 PM

Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/polit...urt/index.html

Washington (CNN) The Supreme Court said Friday it will review next term President Donald Trump's decision to terminate an Obama-era program that protects hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children, setting up a potential decision in the heart of the 2020 presidential election.

A decision siding with the administration could strip protections for nearly 700,000 so-called Dreamers.

Immigration was a signature issue during Trump's first presidential campaign and will be again in the upcoming election. Democratic presidential hopefuls showed this week that they also intend on seizing on the issue, as they pledged to extend protections in two days of debates -- some the top candidates even said they would do so on their first day in office.

The justices have been considering whether to take up the case for months, while allowing renewals for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program to continue.

The program, which protects participants from deportation and allows them to work in the US, has become a focal point in the debate over Trump's proposed US-Mexico border wall and efforts to crack down on immigration.

Trump has repeatedly cited the fact that lower courts blocked his effort to phase out DACA and the potential for a Supreme Court review as a reason not to make a deal with Democrats to extend the program on a comprehensive immigration bill. The President has felt all along that although lower courts ruled against him, he would ultimately prevail in the Supreme Court, much as the administration did in the final version of the travel ban.

Last year, for instance, Trump tweeted: "It just shows everyone how broken and unfair our Court System is when the opposing side in a case (such as DACA) always runs to the 9th Circuit and almost always wins before being reversed by higher courts."

Many DACA recipients are unable to obtain legal status on their own because they were either brought into the country illegally or they overstayed their visas. That often precludes them from becoming a lawful permanent resident because one of the requirements is having entered -- and resided in -- the country legally.

Friday's announcement was made without comment or any noted dissent.

Got_Daca 06-28-2019 12:33 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Caveocrats will rather have DACA dead

Trump wants it dead

Scotus will kill it

Everyone wants us dead

PapiChulo 06-28-2019 12:34 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 738461)
Caveocrats will rather have DACA dead

Trump wants it dead

Scotus will kill it

Everyone wants us dead

good.

Got_Daca 06-28-2019 12:38 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Caveocrats will cave on virtually anything

Except DACA

dreamer__13 06-28-2019 12:39 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 738469)
Caveocrats will cave on virtually anything

Except DACA

Cool.

DogJuiceMan 06-28-2019 12:52 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Legally we are already dead. Trump just wants to put the stake through our hearts to ensure we stay dead.


Nice try Trump, but you forgot Daca wears armor of the finest quality and strength. Shining and radiant, DACA stands proud and tall against the villains in the white House who seek to destroy it.

Hallowpoint1911 06-28-2019 12:52 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
I know we should be united but this cat Got_Daca makes it really hard. The lesser of two evils are the Democrats yet this fool is always attacking them. It was a Democrat who gave us DACA and it’s Republican who is trying to take it away. Ignorant fool should not be on this forum.

PapiChulo 06-28-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallowpoint1911 (Post 738481)
I know we should be united but this cat Got_Daca makes it really hard. The lesser of two evils are the Democrats yet this fool is always attacking them. It was a Democrat who gave us DACA and it’s Republican who is trying to take it away. Ignorant fool should not be on this forum.

i think he got mental health issues.

cmeow 06-28-2019 12:57 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallowpoint1911 (Post 738481)
I know we should be united but this cat Got_Daca makes it really hard. The lesser of two evils are the Democrats yet this fool is always attacking them. It was a Democrat who gave us DACA and it’s Republican who is trying to take it away. Ignorant fool should not be on this forum.

It is what it is. I've said before that if Trump immediately gives citizenship to DACA holders, there would be a lot more republicans than what most people think.

Smooth 06-28-2019 01:01 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Look guys, it's not over yet. We have all faced more difficult times. We will be ok. Trust me.

This puts pressure on both parties to get it done after the election. We are not leaving--my two cents. If shit hits the fan, I will make sure to fight for all of you as if you are my own blood. You are nit alone in this. We have each other. Tighten those balls and keep moving forward.

jorgeag92 06-28-2019 01:06 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
chill out guys. nothing will happen. It is more difficult to take away a benefit than it is giving it, plus can you imagine how it will look to the rest of the world if 700k+ people all of a sudden lose their jobs and are on their way to being deported? the u.s government will not look good at all

Copper 06-28-2019 01:07 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
People out here happy because Congress will finally deal with our issue once we start expiring, but little do they know that Congress can’t even get its act out to help out its own citizens let alone undocumented people.

dreamer__13 06-28-2019 01:11 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 738484)
Look guys, it's not over yet. We have all faced more difficult times. We will be ok. Trust me.

This puts pressure on both parties to get it done after the election. We are not leaving--my two cents. If shit hits the fan, I will make sure to fight for all of you as if you are my own blood. You are nit alone in this. We have each other. Tighten those balls and keep moving forward.

Fuck yes. This is the energy that gets shit done.

PapiChulo 06-28-2019 01:14 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 738487)
People out here happy because Congress will finally deal with our issue once we start expiring, but little do they know that Congress can’t even get its act out to help out its own citizens let alone undocumented people.

some people just want closure, man. they dgaf about the outcome no more. they just wanna move on with their lives.

Hallowpoint1911 06-28-2019 01:14 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 738487)
People out here happy because Congress will finally deal with our issue once we start expiring, but little do they know that Congress can’t even get its act out to help out its own citizens let alone undocumented people.

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m happy the case is moving forward. Most likely there wont be any solution from congress, but at least we will have an answer which is better than guessing.

ayran123 06-28-2019 01:32 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Now its nancy's turn to try to negotiate something with trump and turtle. Nancy has been quiet about daca for a while.

Smooth 06-28-2019 01:36 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 738490)
some people just want closure, man. they dgaf about the outcome no more. they just wanna move on with their lives.

This is our country. The ultimate outcome will be favorable to all of us in the end. Mark my words!

Red neck 06-28-2019 01:37 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Your title is misleading. It is next term so it could be fall or spring....

cmeow 06-28-2019 01:39 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 738486)
chill out guys. nothing will happen. It is more difficult to take away a benefit than it is giving it, plus can you imagine how it will look to the rest of the world if 700k+ people all of a sudden lose their jobs and are on their way to being deported? the u.s government will not look good at all

It won't be like that. They'll let your EAD expire so 700k people over the span of 2 years.

If this was 20 years ago I agree Congress would've done something. But now there's just so much partisanship that one party just does stuff to spite the other or make sure they don't get any "wins", even when a policy has 80% support from democrats and republicans. The only person in the Senate is Graham and the only possible person in the WH is Kushner that may speak on behalf of dreamers. That's not reassuring by any means, especially when there's people working against Graham and Kushner in the Senate and in the WH.

Now days, you stop bills from passing by adding stuff to it where people can't reach a consensus anymore. It's also unfortunate that it's exactly how Trump likes to negotiate. He'll ask for a lot of stuff (but in my opinion he's willing to compromise) but the hard liners keep pushing him to ask for more and more to the point where dems don't think Trump is serious. It irritates him more so he'll ask for more and more and the vicious cycle continues.

The fact that the republicans can't see taking the DACA issues away from dems during the election year helps them a lot shows me how partisan the system really has become.

I really do hope something positive happens. USA act or better is addressing the DACA problem. Anything less is worse than the current state of DACA.

2MoreYears 06-28-2019 02:16 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Great news! This is the first step from where we are to full blown citizenship.

DogJuiceMan 06-28-2019 02:18 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
I deserve a blowjob with a pinky up the butt for all the shit we've gone thru.

vft1008 06-28-2019 02:21 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 738480)
Legally we are already dead.

Please explain WTF you mean by this. Feel free to inject some kind of insult about how I cannot understand your shitty writing because I am not intellectual enough like you are.

Outsider626 06-28-2019 02:26 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Great news. Finally.

https://media.tenor.com/images/531e0...69d5/tenor.gif

Hallowpoint1911 06-28-2019 02:55 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 738501)
Great news! This is the first step from where we are to full blown citizenship.

I can’t help but to laugh at this comment. It’s good to have a dream.

JavierHTx 06-28-2019 02:57 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
I can see why some of you aren’t married.

vft1008 06-28-2019 03:02 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javierhtx (Post 738507)
i can see why some of you aren’t married.

+10,000

Erik1421 06-28-2019 03:05 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
As if marriage was needed.

vft1008 06-28-2019 03:11 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik1421 (Post 738509)
As if marriage was needed.

One of the easiest ways out of this shitty mess.

Got_Daca 06-28-2019 03:17 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Don't worry guys

The million with final orders will go before us

That will take all years of trump

Worse that can happen is we go back to shadows and drive Uber making 5k/month

2MoreYears 06-28-2019 03:28 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 738505)

Exactly! Long live our great leader Donald J. Trump. #MAGA His highest priority are #Dreamers of course. #TRUMP for the win bitch!

jwxie518 06-28-2019 03:31 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 738461)
Caveocrats will rather have DACA dead

Trump wants it dead

Scotus will kill it

Everyone wants us dead

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 738501)
Great news! This is the first step from where we are to full blown citizenship.

Just two more years!

Erik1421 06-28-2019 04:26 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 738510)
One of the easiest ways out of this shitty mess.

Getting out of a shitty mess and enter into a bigger shitty mess.

jorgeag92 06-28-2019 04:49 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 738497)
It won't be like that. They'll let your EAD expire so 700k people over the span of 2 years.

If this was 20 years ago I agree Congress would've done something. But now there's just so much partisanship that one party just does stuff to spite the other or make sure they don't get any "wins", even when a policy has 80% support from democrats and republicans. The only person in the Senate is Graham and the only possible person in the WH is Kushner that may speak on behalf of dreamers. That's not reassuring by any means, especially when there's people working against Graham and Kushner in the Senate and in the WH.

Now days, you stop bills from passing by adding stuff to it where people can't reach a consensus anymore. It's also unfortunate that it's exactly how Trump likes to negotiate. He'll ask for a lot of stuff (but in my opinion he's willing to compromise) but the hard liners keep pushing him to ask for more and more to the point where dems don't think Trump is serious. It irritates him more so he'll ask for more and more and the vicious cycle continues.

The fact that the republicans can't see taking the DACA issues away from dems during the election year helps them a lot shows me how partisan the system really has become.

I really do hope something positive happens. USA act or better is addressing the DACA problem. Anything less is worse than the current state of DACA.

I think some of you forgot that legislation almost passed when DACA was cancelled for a brief period. Negotiations went down the drain when the courts brought DACA back. Also, remember the images the news showed every day of people crying about not being able to study and work. Same thing will happen, and something will pass.

Like I have always said, I do not expect legislation to pass right after DACA is cancelled. Last time some were able to renew one last time and other were left out. Once legislation passes the "new program" will not be implemented immediately, so everyone should be ready to deal with at least 6 months of unemployment give or take.

DACAgogue 06-28-2019 05:27 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 738519)
I think some of you forgot that legislation almost passed when DACA was cancelled for a brief period. Negotiations went down the drain when the courts brought DACA back. Also, remember the images the news showed every day of people crying about not being able to study and work. Same thing will happen, and something will pass.

Like I have always said, I do not expect legislation to pass right after DACA is cancelled. Last time some were able to renew one last time and other were left out. Once legislation passes the "new program" will not be implemented immediately, so everyone should be ready to deal with at least 6 months of unemployment give or take.

"
Also, remember the images the news showed every day of people crying about not being able to study and work. Same thing will happen, and something will pass."

Kind of like when they showed US citizens at soup lines and the government shutdown was resolved immediately?

Get it out of your head that pictures are gonna change anything. Americans don't care. As long as the economy is going well, it's background noise.

Rogue414 06-28-2019 05:35 PM

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What’s wrong with you guys? Good news? It seems that all of you have forgotten that Brett Kavanaugh was given a life long term as a judge in the Supreme Court. We cannot survive another Trump term and that is a fact. Pelosi just passed the dream act not long ago just for political points, if by some miracle it could pass the senate, are you naive enough to think Trump would strike his pen on that piece of paper?. Do you really think they care about our “hardship” they have kids locked up in cages without basic human needs, some pets have it better than them. May the odds be in our favor.

cmeow 06-28-2019 05:42 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 738519)
I think some of you forgot that legislation almost passed when DACA was cancelled for a brief period. Negotiations went down the drain when the courts brought DACA back. Also, remember the images the news showed every day of people crying about not being able to study and work. Same thing will happen, and something will pass.

Like I have always said, I do not expect legislation to pass right after DACA is cancelled. Last time some were able to renew one last time and other were left out. Once legislation passes the "new program" will not be implemented immediately, so everyone should be ready to deal with at least 6 months of unemployment give or take.

The democrats first walked away when Trump agreed to 25 bil for DACA then he changed the deal to add his "4 pillars". This is killing a bill by adding more stuff to it. That was when democrats first walked away. Remember Trump went as far as asking for removal of birthright citizenship, which means you have to change the constitution. That is impossible so it's hard to take him seriously. The democrats in the Senate forced a weekend government shutdown so McConnell will bring some bills to a vote and if you recall, the most popular one (I think it was the USA ACT by Susan Collins) that gives DACA people status, the DHS sent out a memo at like 2 AM saying it's bad so a lot of senators got scared and it didn't pass the Senate. Trump's own DACA solution got the least amount of Senate votes. They were supposed to debate immigration for a week but didn't start until like the 2nd or 3rd day into the week. The democrats stopped trying to work with republicans after that.

Of course, after the courts came in it solidified the position that democrats won't work with republicans but they tried to, at least twice.

People crying because they lost their jobs? What about parents crying because their kids are taken from them? Nothing so far has been done about that, why would you assume people would do something about losing a job? Morally speaking, a lot more issues has to be addressed before the worst thing you see on TV is dreamers losing jobs or not being able to study because a lot has happened then.

Dres2011 06-28-2019 05:58 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
Suddenly losing hundreds of thousands of jobs would harm the economy. I hope something gets done since it wouldn't just benefit me, It seems like the perfect storm is being set up and the outcomes are either really rewarding or devastatingly tragic.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-28-2019 05:59 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
People blaming the courts for stopping trump from ending daca are plain ignorant. 700k losing their jobs won’t imoact actual voting citizens. Trumps tariffs will have more of a negative impact to this economy than a bunch of man children losing daca.


USC were fine before daca and they will be fine after it’s gone so get this if daca goes away, Congress will act mentally out of here


The courts are why so many (2Face including) were able to renew again.

cmeow 06-28-2019 06:06 PM

Re: Supreme Court to take DACA next fall.
 
I should also mention that there's 3 people standing in the way of a policy that has 80% public support.

McConnell, Miller, and ultimately Trump.

All three are up for re-election in 2020 so they'll have their own self interest (I know Miller isn't elected but if Trump is gone so is he). They care about getting re-elected the most. Are they going to take the route of removing the DACA issue so dems can't campaign on it or are they going to take the hard line stance to get votes? Feels like the latter will happen. Whatever they do, it's them trying to get re-elected.

DogJuiceMan 06-29-2019 02:08 AM

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Look I'm drunk but we will be okay. In djm we trust.


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