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Red neck 07-15-2019 09:21 AM

Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
The Trump administration on Monday moved to end asylum protections for most Central American migrants in a major escalation of the president's battle to tamp down the number of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.


According to a new rule published in the Federal Register , asylum seekers who pass through another country first will be ineligible for asylum at the U.S. southern border. The rule, expected to go into effect on Tuesday, also applies to children who have crossed the border alone.

There are some exceptions: If someone has been trafficked, if the country the migrant passed through did not sign one of the major international treaties that govern how refugees are managed (though most Western countries have signed them) or if an asylum-seeker sought protection in a country but was denied, then a migrant could still apply for U.S. asylum.

But the move by President Donald Trump's administration was meant to essentially end asylum protections as they now are on the southern border.

The policy is almost certain to face a legal challenge. U.S. law allows refugees to request asylum when they arrive at the U.S. regardless of how they did so, but there is an exception for those who have come through a country considered to be "safe." But the Immigration and Nationality Act, which governs asylum law, is vague on how a country is determined "safe"; it says "pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement."

Right now, the U.S. has such an agreement, known as a "safe third country," only with Canada. Under a recent agreement with Mexico, Central American countries were considering a regional compact on the issue, but nothing has been decided. Guatemalan officials were expected in Washington on Monday, but apparently a meeting between Trump and Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales was canceled amid a court challenge in Guatemala over whether the country could agree to a safe third with the U.S.

The new rule also will apply to the initial asylum screening, known as a "credible fear" interview, at which migrants must prove they have credible fears of returning to their home country. It applies to migrants who are arriving to the U.S., not those who are already in the country.

Trump administration officials say the changes are meant to close the gap between the initial asylum screening that most people pass and the final decision on asylum that most people do not win. But immigrant rights groups, religious leaders and humanitarian groups have said the Republican administration's policies amount to a cruel and calloused effort to keep immigrants out of the country. Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are poor countries suffering from violence .

Along with the administration's recent effort to send asylum seekers back over the border , Trump has tried to deny asylum to anyone crossing the border illegally and restrict who can claim asylum, and Attorney General William Barr recently tried to keep thousands of asylum seekers detained while their cases play out.

Nearly all of those efforts have been blocked by courts.

Meanwhile, conditions have worsened for migrants who make it over the border seeking better lives. Tens of thousands of Central American migrant families cross the border each month, many claiming asylum. The numbers have increased despite Trump's derisive rhetoric and hard-line immigration policies. Border facilities have been dangerously cramped and crowded well beyond capacity. The Department of Homeland Security's watchdog found fetid, filthy conditions for many children. And lawmakers who traveled there recently decried conditions .

Immigration courts are backlogged by more than 800,000 cases, meaning many people won't have their asylum claims heard for years despite move judges being hired.

People are generally eligible for asylum in the U.S. if they feared return to their home country because they would be persecuted based on race, religion, nationality or membership in a particular social group.

During the budget year for 2009, there were 35,811 asylum claims, and 8,384 were granted. During 2018 budget year, there were 162,060 claims filed, and 13,168 were granted.


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...icans-64338440

Got_Daca 07-15-2019 09:23 AM

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Great

frbc13 07-15-2019 10:41 AM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
They're making room for us

2MoreYears 07-15-2019 11:02 AM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
I have mixed feelings. But I think our great leader is right this time.

Removing all incentives will help prevent human trafficking and more importantly deaths.

BestBefore1984 07-15-2019 11:29 AM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 739036)
I have mixed feelings. But I think our great leader is right this time.

Removing all incentives will help prevent human trafficking and more importantly deaths.

You do know that Trump's boy Jeff Epstein was heavily involved in sex trafficking of minors right and that Trump and Epstein hosted parties, just them two and a bunch of young girls.

You'd be delusional to think Trump actually cares about preventing human trafficking.

jorgeag92 07-15-2019 01:38 PM

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if a person truly needs asylum they should be fine in any country other than their own.

isk84life 07-15-2019 01:54 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 739038)
if a person truly needs asylum they should be fine in any country other than their own.

Dude, who are you? Like what even qualifies you to say this BS.

beingoflight 07-15-2019 03:12 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 739038)
if a person truly needs asylum they should be fine in any country other than their own.

This is beyond true, Mexico isnt that bad for the central americans...

2MoreYears 07-15-2019 03:16 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 739037)
You do know that Trump's boy Jeff Epstein was heavily involved in sex trafficking of minors right and that Trump and Epstein hosted parties, just them two and a bunch of young girls.

You'd be delusional to think Trump actually cares about preventing human trafficking.

I'm not saying our great leader is perfect. In fact, I agree he doesn't give a damn about human trafficking. But let me put it this way. I support all measures that regulate asylum seekers and immigration in general aside from DACA of course. We deserve straight up citizenship this far along the game.

Thank my conservative side for that.

Having said that. We must find solutions for thsese people that want nothing else than better opportunities for a better life.

My pitch, in general, is to create a guest worker program where 85% of their compensation is paid in their home country. Then remove diversity lottery, set more stringent qualification for asylum seekers along with strong interior and border enforcement.

Lastly, work with their government to create better conditions back home. Everyone wins with such measures.

jwxie518 07-15-2019 03:21 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 739041)
I'm not saying our great leader is perfect. In fact, I agree he doesn't give a damn about human trafficking. But let me put it this way. I support all measures that regulate asylum seekers and immigration in general aside from DACA of course. We deserve straight up citizenship this far along the game.

Thank my conservative side for that.

Having said that. We must find solutions for thsese people that want nothing else than better opportunities for a better life.

My pitch, in general, is to create a guest worker program where 85% of their compensation is paid in their home country. Then remove diversity lottery, set more stringent qualification for asylum seekers along with strong interior and border enforcement.

Lastly, work with their government to create better conditions back home. Everyone wins with such measures.

+1

Guest program is quite supportive in some of the red states. But fucking morons Congress don't want.

BestBefore1984 07-15-2019 04:37 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 739036)
I have mixed feelings. But I think our great leader is right this time.

Removing all incentives will help prevent human trafficking and more importantly deaths.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 739041)
I'm not saying our great leader is perfect. In fact, I agree he doesn't give a damn about human trafficking. But let me put it this way. I support all measures that regulate asylum seekers and immigration in general aside from DACA of course. We deserve straight up citizenship this far along the game.

Thank my conservative side for that.

Having said that. We must find solutions for thsese people that want nothing else than better opportunities for a better life.

My pitch, in general, is to create a guest worker program where 85% of their compensation is paid in their home country. Then remove diversity lottery, set more stringent qualification for asylum seekers along with strong interior and border enforcement.

Lastly, work with their government to create better conditions back home. Everyone wins with such measures.

Good point.

They should straight up give Citizenship to the Mexican Dreamers first. When Trump was saying that immigrants should go back to where they came from, Idk where to go. Should I go to Spain? I mean my peoples ruled these California lands for centuries.

Alfredo93 07-15-2019 04:40 PM

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United We Sc(d)ream workers be in here like: Open borders :grin:

IamAman 07-15-2019 05:20 PM

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There is no way this doesn't get shut down by a court shortly.

beingoflight 07-15-2019 07:08 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfredo93 (Post 739045)
United We Sc(d)ream workers be in here like: Open borders :grin:

"leGaLizE aLL, nO CoMpRoMisE, cLeAn dReAm aCt"

"nO cOnCenTrAtiOn cAmPs, hAil hIllArY"

"nO cBp"

"dEfUnD iCe"

BestBefore1984 07-15-2019 07:17 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 739052)
"leGaLizE aLL, nO CoMpRoMisE, cLeAn dReAm aCt"

"nO cOnCenTrAtiOn cAmPs, hAil hIllArY"

"nO cBp"

"dEfUnD iCe"

Could someone explain to me what this upper/lower case interchange of letters means? I've seen people on the internet type like this and seen it before on this forum.

I genuinely don't know.

PapiChulo 07-15-2019 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BestBefore1984 (Post 739053)
Could someone explain to me what this upper/lower case interchange of letters means? I've seen people on the internet type like this and seen it before on this forum.

I genuinely don't know.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mocking-spongebob

BestBefore1984 07-15-2019 07:34 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 739052)
"leGaLizE aLL, nO CoMpRoMisE, cLeAn dReAm aCt"

"nO cOnCenTrAtiOn cAmPs, hAil hIllArY"

"nO cBp"

"dEfUnD iCe"

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 739054)

ahhh got ya. Thanks man. haha

DogJuiceMan 07-15-2019 09:01 PM

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Anyone who donated to UWD should be deported for anti American suggestive subversive activities. They in no way seek to help anyone but themselves and their paymasters/handlers.


Probably a Russian operation going on.

BestBefore1984 07-15-2019 09:57 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 739061)
Anyone who donated to UWD should be deported for anti American suggestive subversive activities. They in no way seek to help anyone but themselves and their paymasters/handlers.


Probably a Russian operation going on.

DJM...

Where you been my nigga?

Alfredo93 07-15-2019 11:50 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 739061)
Anyone who donated to UWD should be deported for anti American suggestive subversive activities. They in no way seek to help anyone but themselves and their paymasters/handlers.


Probably a Russian operation going on.

They did prop up Black Lives Matter in certain cities...

DogJuiceMan 07-16-2019 12:27 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfredo93 (Post 739065)
They did prop up Black Lives Matter in certain cities...

And we have confirmation. They are most certainly not for anyone's benefit. Their Russian/Chinese handlers must be laughing their asses off right now as they control these psyop groups.

JavierHTx 07-16-2019 01:37 PM

Re: Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
 
It sucks for them but then I think of the Lady Frijoles who was given asylum and allowed to stay in Dallas only to get arrested a few weeks later for fighting with her neighbors. These people are trashy and not many of them come to work.

Like another poster said, if they were truly seeking asylum from something they can do it on any other country.


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