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beingoflight 09-09-2019 12:47 AM

Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/09...-end-daca/amp/


Thursday marked the two-year anniversary of Trump’s announcement, and the program's fate still hasn't been resolved. The U.S. Supreme Court announced earlier this year it would hear arguments in the case in November, which Gonzalez said means another roller coaster of emotions, even though the court's decision could offer some closure.

Just after Trump’s announcement, polling showed a majority of Texans favored a solution for DACA recipients, commonly referred to as "Dreamers." An October 2017 Texas Tribune/University of Texas at Austin poll showed that two-thirds of registered voters favored a program to prevent deportation of the undocumented youth.

JohannBernoulli1667 09-09-2019 08:23 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
The ruling should come until months after correct?

2MoreYears 09-09-2019 09:04 AM

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Yeah. Summer 2020 I understand.

Tacvbo 09-09-2019 11:42 AM

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The ruling is expected June 2020.

Got_Daca 09-09-2019 01:55 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Let's all write to Justice Roberts

Who's with me

DogJuiceMan 09-09-2019 07:25 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
I have a printer, stamps, envelopes, and paper. I think I'd rather send a letter to putin to command Trump to fix this situation.

Got_Daca 09-09-2019 08:28 PM

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I bet SCOTUS will give 1 year grace period and no more renewals

PapiChulo 09-09-2019 08:29 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 740777)
I bet SCOTUS will give 1 year grace period and no more renewals

great.

DogJuiceMan 09-09-2019 09:20 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Look there's not beating around the gay bush, or beating it. The supreme court is gonna smack DACA down so hard our heads will spin. Its impossible for it to result in a good situation for us given the political bend of the court.

We also cannot count on old raggedy unreliable congress to deliver a fix.As long as 90% of the country is reasonably okay, we are boned. If we aren't screwed then as a poison pill they add in TPS, or that pillar busllshit, to torpedo any chances we get anything.

thesaintseiya 09-10-2019 01:33 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
crazy scenario:

SCOTUS cancels DACA
Trump legalizes DACA
Uses that for re-election

or

SCOTUS cancels DACA
It becomes one of the main issues during the election

legendver2 09-10-2019 03:27 AM

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Ok, let's say for sake of example, SCOTUS says DACA is constitutional, what happens then? Can the Trump admin still try to kill it? Can cock-eyed Paxton still try to kill it? Does that mean infinite renewals? Does AP come back?

JohannBernoulli1667 09-10-2019 06:57 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 740782)
Ok, let's say for sake of example, SCOTUS says DACA is constitutional, what happens then? Can the Trump admin still try to kill it? Can cock-eyed Paxton still try to kill it? Does that mean infinite renewals? Does AP come back?

They are not arguing whether it is or it isn't.

DACA is most likely constitutional. So that's not the issue.

They are only arguing if it is legal to end it. (it is legal to end it since it is not a law passed by Congress)

It was legal to start DACA but it is also legal to end it.

Red neck 09-10-2019 09:36 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 740784)
They are not arguing whether it is or it isn't.

DACA is most likely constitutional. So that's not the issue.

They are only arguing if it is legal to end it. (it is legal to end it since it is not a law passed by Congress)

It was legal to start DACA but it is also legal to end it.

Actually they are arguing that the way Trump ended DACA was legal or not legal. If he followed the APA.(Which he did not.)

If Trump wanted he could redo the order to end DACA the proper way and actually end it but he wants the courts to do his dirty work

JohannBernoulli1667 09-10-2019 09:37 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 740786)
Actually they are arguing that the way Trump ended DACA was legal or not legal. If he followed the APA.(Which he did not.)

If Trump wanted he could redo the order to end DACA the proper way and actually end it but he wants the courts to do his dirty work

Yes you are right.

vft1008 09-10-2019 12:21 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thesaintseiya (Post 740781)
crazy scenario:

SCOTUS cancels DACA
Trump legalizes DACA
Uses that for re-election

How would Trump legalize DACA, exactly?

Tacvbo 09-10-2019 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 740789)
How would Trump legalize DACA, exactly?

The level of stupideness this site has reached is beyond my understanding. Yet, somehow, it makes them think that they're being productive to the cause. Example? Those trolls who believe Trump will do something about this. Shit, that's exactly how he won the vote of his fan base.....By not giving a shit about immigrants.

beingoflight 09-10-2019 01:56 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 740784)
They are not arguing whether it is or it isn't.

DACA is most likely constitutional. So that's not the issue.

They are only arguing if it is legal to end it. (it is legal to end it since it is not a law passed by Congress)

It was legal to start DACA but it is also legal to end it.

DACA is NOT constitutional like it or not.

President CANNOT do those kind of things, CONGRESS takes care of that.

Barack Hussein Obama even said so HIMSELF.

beingoflight 09-10-2019 01:58 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 740779)
Look there's not beating around the gay bush, or beating it. The supreme court is gonna smack DACA down so hard our heads will spin. Its impossible for it to result in a good situation for us given the political bend of the court.

We also cannot count on old raggedy unreliable congress to deliver a fix.As long as 90% of the country is reasonably okay, we are boned. If we aren't screwed then as a poison pill they add in TPS, or that pillar busllshit, to torpedo any chances we get anything.

United We Dream would be the ones to blame since they just cant shut the fck up.

PapiChulo 09-10-2019 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 740794)
DACA is NOT constitutional like it or not.


kinda hypocritical.

then why do you continue to benefit from a program that you believe shouldn’t exist? you should discard your DACA status then.

nobody can say if its constitutional or not, only SCOTUS can do that.

JohannBernoulli1667 09-10-2019 04:01 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 740794)
DACA is NOT constitutional like it or not.

President CANNOT do those kind of things, CONGRESS takes care of that.

Barack Hussein Obama even said so HIMSELF.


It is constitutional the president has broad powers over deffered action. He can also allow certain members of people to remain in the U. S

legendver2 09-10-2019 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 740786)
Actually they are arguing that the way Trump ended DACA was legal or not legal. If he followed the APA.(Which he did not.)

If Trump wanted he could redo the order to end DACA the proper way and actually end it but he wants the courts to do his dirty work

So won't this be a different case altogether from the current Texas one, which is arguing on the legality of the program itself? I don't see why Hanen is leaving it in SCOTUS hands by kicking the bucket down the road if the 2 cases are arguing different things. And isn't the Hanen case kicked only to October? Would he kick it further down for SCOTUS to make their decision on whether the way it was ended was legal? Let's just say Hanen decides to not kick it down and takes up the second case in October, wouldn't that make the SCOTUS decision pointless if Hanen rules that DACA itself is not legal? This is one big clusterfuck in my eyes lmao.

DogJuiceMan 09-10-2019 07:08 PM

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Government is actually a big clusterfuck. The founding fathers went pretty far, but they could not foresee the advanced scoundrel we have today. The better and more advanced you make a government, the more advanced and skillfull the scoundrels will get.

Moscow Mitch is a big example of scoundrels. All they do is block legislation. They should be tarred and feathered by the people for the gross incompetence and mismanagement of the posts they've been elected to. If someone in the future makes a new government, make sure to have a policy where if the population is dissatisfied with congress, then the congress is emptied out of all members and new elections are held.

DamLeon123 09-11-2019 01:46 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 740794)
DACA is NOT constitutional like it or not.

President CANNOT do those kind of things, CONGRESS takes care of that.

Barack Hussein Obama even said so HIMSELF.

The way you say it makes it look like obama said daca was unsconstitutional. Which is absolutely false he. Look into what he said entirely on the Univision interview. You need to educate yourself. And once again for the millionth time if theres still any confusion or misinformation daca was not a dam executive order.

beingoflight 09-11-2019 03:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DamLeon123 (Post 740832)
The way you say it makes it look like obama said daca was unsconstitutional. Which is absolutely false he. Look into what he said entirely on the Univision interview. You need to educate yourself. And once again for the millionth time if theres still any confusion or misinformation daca was not a dam executive order.

Did you just quoted Univision? Please dont do that EVER again, thanks to their bullshit we are still in fkin limbo. Jorge Ramos is the definition of poor journalism.

The president CANNOT do that kind of immigration move. CONGRESS does that with LEGISLATION.

Go look at the press release when DACA was released, it was. a " TEMPORARY fix" until stricken down so congress could do their JOB to pass LEGISLATION in the meantime

Christ almighty the brainwash is getting worse.

beingoflight 09-11-2019 03:47 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 740796)
kinda hypocritical.

then why do you continue to benefit from a program that you believe shouldn’t exist? you should discard your DACA status then.

nobody can say if its constitutional or not, only SCOTUS can do that.

Lmao.

Which is why the supreme court will strike it down.

What an idiotic way of thinking.

DACA will be eliminated and we have to prepare for the worst just in case congress fails AGAIN with a bill, odds dont look good for us if the idiots at univision and United W Dream keep asking for stupid sht.

Thinking that the program should exist won't change the reality of it. That it is unconstitutional.

Activist courts brought the "illegally" rescinded argument just to buy us more time. We got to be realistic. This affects all of us and we got to put our feet on the ground.

Pianoswithoutfaith 09-11-2019 09:44 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 740834)
Did you just quoted Univision? Please dont do that EVER again, thanks to their bullshit we are still in fkin limbo. Jorge Ramos is the definition of poor journalism.

The president CANNOT do that kind of immigration move. CONGRESS does that with LEGISLATION.

Go look at the press release when DACA was released, it was. a " TEMPORARY fix" until stricken down so congress could do their JOB to pass LEGISLATION in the meantime

Christ almighty the brainwash is getting worse.


Got any actual proof that daca is unconstitutional? Last I checked it wasn’t even an EO but a memo by USCIS so how could it be unconstitutional?

ECW 09-11-2019 10:10 AM

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I would hate to do this, but if DACA ends with nothing legislatively in place I will be force to cash out $20,000 in cash advance I have on my capital one credit card.

JavierHTx 09-11-2019 10:29 AM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ECW (Post 740837)
I would hate to do this, but if DACA ends with nothing legislatively in place I will be force to cash out $20,000 in cash advance I have on my capital one credit card.

And do what?

frbc13 09-11-2019 12:30 PM

Re: Supreme Court scheduled to hear DACA arguments in November.
 
Supreme Court June 2020: "Yes DACA beneficiaries deserve to die and we hope they burn in hell"

JavierHTx 09-11-2019 01:38 PM

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And I oop

dtrt09 09-15-2019 03:18 PM

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@sahilkapur:

The Senate confirmed six new judges this week, bringing Donald Trump’s total to 150. These are young—nearly all in their 30s, 40s or 50s—conservatives who will shape the law for generations.

• 105 district court judges

• 43 circuit court judges

• 2 Supreme Court justices

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...79825321762816

Thank Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and the Dem establishment for not having the guts to appoint in recess Judge Garland, even though it was within his authority to do so.

jwxie518 09-15-2019 04:16 PM

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Y;all bitches are so negative here. There is a compromise. If we all just celebrate our success together. We will fund the wall. Fuck you nay sayers.

dreamer12345 09-16-2019 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 741011)
@sahilkapur:

The Senate confirmed six new judges this week, bringing Donald Trump’s total to 150. These are young—nearly all in their 30s, 40s or 50s—conservatives who will shape the law for generations.

• 105 district court judges

• 43 circuit court judges

• 2 Supreme Court justices

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...79825321762816

Thank Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and the Dem establishment for not having the guts to appoint in recess Judge Garland, even though it was within his authority to do so.

Fucking A. Pussies. You see the stunt the Repugs pulled on 911 in NC?


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