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ECW 11-12-2019 12:59 PM

Conservative Supreme Court justices lean toward Trump on ending immigrant program
 
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Conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices on Tuesday appeared sympathetic to President Donald Trump’s effort to rescind a program that protects from deportation hundreds of thousands of immigrants who entered the United States illegally as children - dubbed “Dreamers” - part of his tough immigration policies.
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Several of the five conservative justices appeared skeptical that courts can even review the Republican president’s 2017 plan to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which had been implemented in 2012 by his Democratic predecessor Barack Obama. Even if the court finds that it can be reviewed, conservative justices indicated they think Trump’s administration gave a reasonable explanation for its decision.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1XM0KA

Red neck 11-12-2019 01:04 PM

Re: Conservative Supreme Court justices lean toward Trump on ending immigrant program
 
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 742618)


From Daily Caller



The Supreme Court Looks Ready To Uphold Trump’s Bid To End DACA



Chief Justice John Roberts noted that the high court in 2016 affirmed a decision of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that blocked an Obama-era amnesty program called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA). The 5th Circuit’s ruling and the Supreme Court’s subsequent affirmance provide a sufficient rationale for ending DACA, which is largely similar to DAPA, Roberts suggested.









https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/12/d...urt-arguments/

Afridi786 11-12-2019 01:08 PM

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They appeared sympathetic to Trump, seriously?!?! It's not like his life is basically going to be over with this. He doesn't need or deserve sympathy in any way.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-12-2019 01:09 PM

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Where are all the trump dacers? No where to be found

isk84life 11-12-2019 01:10 PM

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We are officially Stephen Miller pawns guys. Get ready for the negotiations if they even happen mid next year.

dreamer__13 11-12-2019 01:15 PM

Re: Conservative Supreme Court justices lean toward Trump on ending immigrant program
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 742623)
Where are all the trump dacers? No where to be found

They’re busy spreading the cheeks for Papa Trump.

Lambo Mercy 11-12-2019 01:20 PM

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We overstayed our welcome and are clearly a headache to the great ppl of this country. Do away with us ASAP. Excited for our future

made4u 11-12-2019 01:32 PM

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It was a good ride.....everything good must come to an end i guess.

Afridi786 11-12-2019 01:35 PM

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I wish they'd just line us up and shoot us. Basically same thing.

VeryNicePerson1 11-12-2019 01:42 PM

Re: Conservative Supreme Court justices lean toward Trump on ending immigrant program
 
I sent my packet out last weekend...only because now is my 150 days before my expiration date.

Maybe I should've sent it out earlier...lol...

Hopefully I can squeak out one last renewal before the possible thumbs down from SCOTUS

cmeow 11-12-2019 01:49 PM

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My guess is that it'll be:
- 5-4 decision
- worst case scenario, SC will provide 3-6 months then rescind DACA in order for a possibility of Congress doing something.

VeryNicePerson1 11-12-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 742640)
My guess is that it'll be:
- 5-4 decision
- worst case scenario, SC will provide 3-6 months then rescind DACA in order for a possibility of Congress doing something.

What I'm wondering, would Congress even do anything?

Nothing has ever been done.

Next year is Election 2020, and not to mention Trump may end up in Senate trials for the entire year, if he is impeached.

How would anything get done.

vft1008 11-12-2019 01:52 PM

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Anyone who believes a sensible solution is guaranteed after SCOTUS sides with Trump and DACA is rescinded is a damned fool. Congress does not give a shit about us and has never functioned. They have had many, many chances and nothing has ever happened. All these "solutions" will have to go through Miller. In the end the right will want some nationalist agenda-pushing plan like the Goodshit Bill. Same shit, different toilet.

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Originally Posted by Lambo Mercy (Post 742627)
We overstayed our welcome and are clearly a headache to the great ppl of this country. Do away with us ASAP. Excited for our future

You still wanna go on Fox News, bend over, and support the Trump admin so you can get yours one more time? Why don't you just leave? Fool.



https://i.imgur.com/seL6ny1.jpg?1

Got_Daca 11-12-2019 02:03 PM

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Trump is desperate for his wall

He is ready to legalize DACA for that

vft1008 11-12-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 742647)
Trump is desperate for his wall

He is ready to legalize DACA for that

Do you realize how stupid and mindless your posts are?

cmeow 11-12-2019 02:07 PM

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I do not believe there will be a sensible solution in Congress (I hope I'm wrong), hence why I prefer DACA to stay. Unfortunately, if an EO is made by one president and the next president can't remove that EO, it doesn't make any sense.

However, if you have deportation of dreamers on an election year with 60%+ public opinion (some as high as 80%+), then it's going to be a bad time for republicans. A deadline to deal with DACA in an election year does not favor republicans if they want to get a lot of concessions from democrats. Maybe SC will push the deadline to solve the issue past 2021, who knows.

Red neck 11-12-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 742647)
Trump is desperate for his wall

He is ready to legalize DACA for that

At this point I do not think he cares about his wall he is more concerned on impeachment.

NotADreamerPerSe 11-12-2019 02:09 PM

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Sympathetic to Trump's effort to destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. Wow.

vft1008 11-12-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Conservative Supreme Court justices lean toward Trump on ending immigrant program
 
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Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 742651)
I do not believe there will be a sensible solution in Congress (I hope I'm wrong), hence why I prefer DACA to stay. Unfortunately, if an EO is made by one president and the next president can't remove that EO, it doesn't make any sense.

However, if you have deportation of dreamers on an election year with 60%+ public opinion (some as high as 80%+), then it's going to be a bad time for republicans. A deadline to deal with DACA in an election year does not favor republicans if they want to get a lot of concessions from democrats. Maybe SC will push the deadline to solve the issue past 2021, who knows.

I agree and hope this becomes the reality if this turns for the worst. A bridge act or stop gap measure of sorts would be the best.

VeryNicePerson1 11-12-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 742651)
I do not believe there will be a sensible solution in Congress (I hope I'm wrong), hence why I prefer DACA to stay. Unfortunately, if an EO is made by one president and the next president can't remove that EO, it doesn't make any sense.

However, if you have deportation of dreamers on an election year with 60%+ public opinion (some as high as 80%+), then it's going to be a bad time for republicans. A deadline to deal with DACA in an election year does not favor republicans if they want to get a lot of concessions from democrats. Maybe SC will push the deadline to solve the issue past 2021, who knows.

If it is left up to the Trump administration, they can just avoid deporting any DACA peeps. Just basically let them live in the shadow and then come after them when they see fit.

Basically SCOTUS rules for Trump, and then Trump leaves us alone for now until he sees a convenient window to start deporting little by little.

VeryNicePerson1 11-12-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 742654)
I agree and hope this becomes the reality if this turns for the worst. A bridge act or stop gap measure of sorts would be the best.

Problem is, I'm getting a real "meh, are we done here?" vibe from Justice Roberts.

Maybe I'm thinking too much into it, but we shall see.

Lambo Mercy 11-12-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 742642)
Anyone who believes a sensible solution is guaranteed after SCOTUS sides with Trump and DACA is rescinded is a damned fool. Congress does not give a shit about us and has never functioned. They have had many, many chances and nothing has ever happened. All these "solutions" will have to go through Miller. In the end the right will want some nationalist agenda-pushing plan like the Goodshit Bill. Same shit, different toilet.


You still wanna go on Fox News, bend over, and support the Trump admin so you can get yours one more time? Why don't you just leave? Fool.



https://i.imgur.com/seL6ny1.jpg?1

Why don’t you lick on my balls? Can you do that for me?

cmeow 11-12-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 742655)
If it is left up to the Trump administration, they can just avoid deporting any DACA peeps. Just basically let them live in the shadow and then come after them when they see fit.

Basically SCOTUS rules for Trump, and then Trump leaves us alone for now until he sees a convenient window to start deporting little by little.

That would be one of the worst case scenarios and in my opinion unlikely. You have dreamers unable to work / unable to contribute. At that point, you're no different than any other illegal immigrant. The government basically increased the number of non-tax paying illegal immigrants by 700k. Policy wise, it doesn't make sense. I don't think republicans will support it.

Got_Daca 11-12-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 742652)
At this point I do not think he cares about his wall he is more concerned on impeachment.

He won't get impeached in senate ever

He doesn't worry a bit in actuality

vft1008 11-12-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambo Mercy (Post 742657)
Why don’t you lick on my balls? Can you do that for me?

Never forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCJToJ4hkI0

Lambo Mercy 11-12-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 742660)

You know how much I’ve heard about you?

Nothing

vft1008 11-12-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambo Mercy (Post 742661)
You know how much I’ve heard about you?

Nothing

Cuz it's a popularity contest...

tabi 11-12-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 742640)
My guess is that it'll be:
- 5-4 decision
- worst case scenario, SC will provide 3-6 months then rescind DACA in order for a possibility of Congress doing something.

Its going to be a punt of some sort. Then punt again if they don't figure anything out.

cmeow 11-12-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 742659)
He won't get impeached in senate ever

He doesn't worry a bit in actuality

Impeachment is something the house does, trial/removal is what the senate does. He can get impeached by the house but the senate will most likely not remove him.

At the end of the day it all plays in the polls for 2020. Impeachment is bad for him in 2020 election. Removing DACA is bad for him in an election year for 2020 election, just not as bad. This administration is not very predictable though so they could do something that's bad for them.

cmeow 11-12-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tabi (Post 742663)
Its going to be a punt of some sort. Then punt again if they don't figure anything out.

Judicial wise, this is the end of the road for DACA. SC won't punt this issue to another judicial process. They'll punt to the legislative & executive branch that's riddled with hyper-partisanship.

Marco956 11-12-2019 02:28 PM

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They wont rule until June though?

cmeow 11-12-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco956 (Post 742666)
They wont rule until June though?

That's the latest, no one knows the earliest. People are guessing Spring / Summer 2021.

Lambo Mercy 11-12-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 742662)
Cuz it's a popularity contest...

I’m out here tryna make a difference. What the hell you do?

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-12-2019 02:33 PM

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Can you two not derail this topic with your petty insignificant differences?

isk84life 11-12-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 742641)
What I'm wondering, would Congress even do anything?

Nothing has ever been done.

Next year is Election 2020, and not to mention Trump may end up in Senate trials for the entire year, if he is impeached.

How would anything get done.

We will get some sort of extension until after the elections. Just look at the precedent set by TPS. They can't have people being deported on an election year, but they can't also go all the way and fix the issue for good.... you need to keep the old white folks scared of immigrants.

beingoflight 11-12-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 742624)
We are officially Stephen Miller pawns guys. Get ready for the negotiations if they even happen mid next year.

Not even him my guy, FUCKING UNITED WE DREAM!!!!

Their fucking legalization for all bullshit can fuck it all up us.

Afridi786 11-12-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 742673)
Not even him my guy, FUCKING UNITED WE DREAM!!!!

Their fucking legalization for all bullshit can fuck it all up us.

Stfu, they have no influence over anything.

PapiChulo 11-12-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 742673)
Not even him my guy, FUCKING UNITED WE DREAM!!!!

Their fucking legalization for all bullshit can fuck it all up us.

LOL. this guy.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-12-2019 03:01 PM

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He really thinks UWD are in Congress in the SC making political choices. They’re not the NRA

Red neck 11-12-2019 03:02 PM

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Dreamers make America more American.

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