Dreamers’ Tell Supreme Court Ending DACA During Pandemic Would Be ‘Catastrophic’
 

WASHINGTON — Aldo Martinez, a paramedic in Fort Myers, Fla., is one of about 27,000 young undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers who work in health care, many of them on the front lines in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic.

“It’s an all-hands-on-deck situation that we have going on,” he said on Friday, halfway through a 48-hour shift.

Mr. Martinez, 26, came to the United States from Mexico when he was 12, and he is able to work thanks to a program announced by President Barack Obama in 2012, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. The Trump administration wants to end the program, and at a Supreme Court argument in November, a majority of the justices seemed inclined to let it.

Mr. Martinez said it would be foolish to take an army of doctors, nurses, pharmacists, technicians, researchers and other health care workers off the battlefield in the middle of a pandemic.

“It’s imperative that the Supreme Court take account of conditions that did not exist back in November,” he said. “It seems nonsensical to invite even more chaos into an already chaotic time.”

The status of health case workers like Mr. Martinez was the subject of an unusual Supreme Court filing on Friday, one that urged the justices to take account of a new reality.

“Termination of DACA during this national emergency would be catastrophic,” the filing said.

Ramis Wadood, a student at Yale Law School who helped prepare the filing, said the contributions made by the program’s recipients are well known.

“It’s always been important, and it’s a point we’ve been driving home since the beginning,” he said. “But this pandemic just brings those interests front and center.”

A prescient supporting brief filed in the case in October by the Association of American Medical Colleges and other groups seemed to anticipate the current crisis. The nation, the brief said, was not prepared “to fill the loss that would result if DACA recipients were excluded from the health care work force.”

“The risk of a pandemic also continues to grow,” the brief said, “since infectious diseases can spread around the globe in a matter of days due to increased urbanization and international travel. These conditions pose a threat to America’s health security — its preparedness for and ability to withstand incidents with public-health consequences.”

“To ensure health security, the country needs a robust health work force,” the brief said. “Rescinding DACA, however, would deprive the public of domestically educated, well-trained, and otherwise qualified health.”

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in San Francisco, for instance, acknowledged that presidents have broad powers to alter the policies of earlier administrations but said the legal rationale offered by the Trump administration did not withstand scrutiny. The court also questioned “the cruelty and wastefulness of deporting productive young people to countries with which they have no ties.”

When the case was argued in November, Solicitor General Noel J. Francisco, representing the administration, said it was entitled to end the program.

“DACA was always meant to be a temporary stopgap measure that could be rescinded at any time, which is why it was only granted in two-year increments,” he said. “So I don’t think anybody could have reasonably assumed that DACA was going to remain in effect in perpetuity.”

Mr. Martinez, the paramedic, said he and his colleagues faced mounting challenges. “The Fort Myers population is very old,” he said. “They have pre-existing conditions that make them more at risk because of the virus. And we have had to put some of our paramedics and emergency medical technicians into quarantine, so that creates a lack of personnel.”

If the Supreme Court sustains the DACA program, Mr. Martinez said, he hopes to pursue a career as a trauma surgeon. He added that all sort of undocumented immigrants had been bearing a disproportionate share of the burdens of the current crisis.

“We are part of the work force,” he said. “A great amount of us are considered essential — janitors, workers in grocery stores, people like myself, nurses, doctors. All of us are working toward protecting the public. If we are unable to do that, we will have an even harder time trying to deal with this pandemic.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/u...ourt-daca.html

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Daca Nurses and Doctors

Now is your chance to shine!

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They deserve straight up US Citizenship!

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They are probably too busy to be here

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SCOTUS won’t care. They’re going to rule against us regardless.

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Someone in congress should introduce a bill that gives any foreign national health care professionals (DACA tucked in there) automatic citizenship for working through this crisis! call your congressman!

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Simplest thing to do is draft them into the medical corps of the army and have them be assigned to their respective areas meaning the hospitals of health installations they currently work in.

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It would be great if they took this into account, but I doubt they will.

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Will SC make decision in June or most likely push the date again towards fall because of CV?

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Taking your history on this forum, you should not be sharing your opinion.

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Health care staff here in one of the COVID-19 hot spots:
Aged out Dreamer. Email and call your representatives. They can and need to pass the DreamAct. This is the right time. We are in a national emergency. We are considered essential staff at the state and federal level and we need all hands on deck . This situation is worse than what's being reported and is in the national interest to keep all in the workforce.

Same with agricultural workers, food services, janitorial and environmental cleaning services who keep society running at this crucial time.

What a time we are living in. Please contact your congressperson.

Take care. Stay safe and wash your hands.

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This message is hidden because Hallowpoint1911 is on your ignore list.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

"Nah it's time for republican hate on Immigrants, even during a national crisis there is always room to hate on the illegal immigrant. Even when people are dying, at least DACAs didn't get theirs."

This is literally the current mainstream republican thought product.

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Radiologic Technologist at a big hospital in a major city here. Exposing myself daily because there are not enough gowns, masks, face shields,etc. ....when it's all over I expect Trump to say: "Thank you for your help, now go fuck yourself" ......actually, I don't expect him to thank us, I just expect him to tell us to go fuck ourselves.

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Nice. I wanted to become a Radiation therapist but at the last moment decided to become an accountant :p

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SC already voted. They vote within the week they hear the case. Now they are drafting the opinions. I am not sure you are allowed to change your vote after voting but either way. DACA is gonna stand for 1 more year or it will end. Most likely end after your EAD card expires, assuming SC strikes it down.

But I see the SC turning it back to the Appellate Courts.

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Supreme Court Ruling doesnt mean the program will end, it will give Trump all power to end it if he chooses to take action.

Remember, they were considering if trump can shut the program down, as if he has the power, authority and cause.

And looking at Trumps history


Trump Ends DACA, September 5, 2017

I am sure users Smooth, Liberterian, 2Face are jumping in joy right now

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Was suppose to end on First day of Presidency. He had promised that throughout his campaign and fooled all his supporters. Finally he ended it on that September date because AG Paxton and his gang threatened to sue. Who in their right mind would think Trump would defend DACA against Paxton lol....

Regardless...at this point...we have a much bigger issue at hand, this goddamn covid..i wish it would disappear and we will get back to arguing about daca/dream act.

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I agree that anyone active in healthcare should get their papers after this.

I can already hear UWD with their, its all or none approach.

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yeah good times, even I don't wish the virus on 2 Maga Face here

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This COVID bullshit is seriously hampering my dating life in finding a USC bae.

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UPS supervisor here, and shit is wild now. TX

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I'm in NY and our state is now the epicenter of COVID-19.

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Well I used to live in NYC and I had the absolutely worst cold when I moved down to Texas. Probably not corona though.

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We out here bro. Working 14hr shifts and sleeping in the car when i can.

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and theres some daca phone/tv/internet engineers/techs out theres helping doctors/hospital/911...etc to make sure they dont have issues with services. im just highlighting most important field :)

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Republitards are already calling this an "excuse for amnesty" and that soon we will all have excuses.

I hope that this pandemic will give them brains in their dumb ass-like heads. In Portugal they temporarily regularized the status of the illegals they have, refugees, visas, basically any foreigner found inside their borders.

Why? Because having illegals afraid of getting treatment for coronavirus means the virus will just come roaring back once you ease the lockdowns. It can't be contained if people are hiding. You need people safe, and cooperative. Unafraid. Idiots in the republican ranks need t put their partisan hatred aside for brown people, and think about the nation.

Pubic health trumps partisan hatred from the proto-nazi republican ranks.

But nope, here in the US ICE is still active in terrorizing illegals into hiding, and with them the virus will also continue to hide.

Dumb. Is this the end of the American empire? Is this how the romans felt watching the ship burn down?

Most insulting of all to all patrotic Americans, is how they get a paltry $1,200 meanwhile corporations get massive bailouts. Here you go peons. $1,200. We are socialist, but only in passing around the losses from corporations straight to the people. All the profits are capitalist.

I should be getting some stock from these worthless corporations that got bailouts, even if it ends up being fractional. I will demand the stock on the phone once I get a list pulled up.

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I was also reading all the strict H1B visa rules are making it harder for doctors and nurses in less hard-hit areas to be moved to hospitals that need the help.

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Not only daca docs nurses and medics will save America

They will save daca too

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I must say, even though you get a lot of heat from some people here, I like you’re optimism. :grin:

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You two kidding me? I don’t think I would step in a USA hospital unless I absolutely had to

https://medium.com/@CynicalXennial/u...l-b601012f81be

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We in fact do not allow anyone who is not a patient (and ONE visitor/family member, etc) on premises. If you are immunocompromised, you are not to bring anyone else. We all get a health screen upon arrival and must attest in writing we are symptom-free. No food delivery, volunteers, vendors, etc, allowed inside. You must meet them outside hospital.

C19 is 2.8x more infectious than regular flu. Our city's surge is expected mid-April with nearly 1000 admissions. Let that sink. If we successfully flatten the curve (for now), we can see a reduction in that estimate to about 750.

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I don't think Americans are flattening anything, we've got 15 days until all ICU beds run out and mortality spikes.


Couple that with them just ignoring stay at home orders. Should've had Medicare for all.

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This epidemic is the result of criminal negligence - CDC, NIH, DHS, and every person with integrity and an iota of responsibility in this country knows it.

The country has lost 54 doctors as of yesterday. People are extremely worried about their health and financial well-being. Those are connected and the country realizes that we cannot have one without the other. People lose their jobs and lose their health coverage which should not have anything to do with employment to begin with.
Medicare for all is the answer.

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https://vocal.media/theSwamp/covid-p...lthcare-system


Rage inducing read

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Use your voice to support healthcare for all.
In the middle of this situation, we have a silver lining to help everyone in this country. Support your communities, write, e-mail and tweet for change.
Healthcare for all!

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Our hospitals are failing

Our corporations lead are failing too


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/b...-shortage.html


Meanwhile daddy trump is bragging about ratings...?



Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Because the “Ratings” of my News Conferences etc. are so high, “Bachelor finale, Monday Night Football type numbers” according to the
@nytimes
, the Lamestream Media is going CRAZY. “Trump is reaching too many people, we must stop him.” said one lunatic. See you at 5:00 P.M.!



Wait what...?

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ratings?! What the fuck. Pence take the wheel. Trump fiddles as America burns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESj_3IQXgAA5Sm3.jpg

We have healthcare for all in mexico, but that didn't stop the government from making asses of themselves and burning all the advantages of time we had uselessly and pointlessly.

No preparations.
No stay at homes.

They just did nothing. We're jodido over here and over there.

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My facility does not allow any visitors, if somebody passes away they do so by themselves, all alone.

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Same. It's heartbreaking.
If a patient is receiving end of life care, no one outside the patient's health care team is allowed to come into near contact with them. Doctors not in ICU or ER shift are tasked with leading end of life discussions with family, providing comfort and food.

I think I am done with this thread. It's very upsetting. Italian doctors have died taking care of patients with their bare hands.

Stay safe and healthy, everyone! For yourselves , families and the country.

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I go out only twice a week for like an hour combined to buy the food.