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Got_Daca 06-04-2020 07:00 PM

Trump quietly done building his wall
 
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beingoflight 06-04-2020 09:47 PM

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Pianoswithoutfaith 06-05-2020 02:04 AM

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“Hi I am bingoflight!! Orange man and I shared the same values and morals!! We believe in fucking the people who support us by weaking their health care, strict gun regulations, a history of racism and fucking over the people who worked for us! In fact!! We don’t understand covid19 and believe chlorine can cure it! And because orange man and I share all these things he couldn’t be possibly be bad!”

justjohnjustice1988 06-05-2020 03:40 AM

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Are you freaking kidding me?

Since when is it bad for a President, Rep or Dem, to protect themselves from possible murder?

This is how far the Left has come to.

Glorified hate and advocating violence.

The wall idea is dumb yes but if it was Obama doing the same thing (protecting the office of President) against fascists protestors, the media would be all up in arms saying that they were home grown terrorists.

The hypocrisy is insane.

And also, this isn't a news article. It's an opinion piece.

Just like most news these days: all opinions, no facts

Demise 06-05-2020 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 747814)

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PapiChulo 06-05-2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 747831)
Are you freaking kidding me?

Since when is it bad for a President, Rep or Dem, to protect themselves from possible murder?

This is how far the Left has come to.

Glorified hate and advocating violence.

The wall idea is dumb yes but if it was Obama doing the same thing (protecting the office of President) against fascists protestors, the media would be all up in arms saying that they were home grown terrorists.

The hypocrisy is insane.

And also, this isn't a news article. It's an opinion piece.

Just like most news these days: all opinions, no facts

this user has a serious identity crisis... just go through his posts from 6months to a year ago.

my guy was stanning so hard for Joe Biden & Nancy Pelosi.

JavierHTx 06-05-2020 12:58 PM

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Some of y’all here would be at a Trump rally if you had been born with papers.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-05-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 747833)
this user has a serious identity crisis... just go through his posts from 6months to a year ago.

my guy was stanning so hard for Joe Biden & Nancy Pelosi.

A lot of these redhats do. 2Face was the biggest Hilary supporter here

DogJuiceMan 06-05-2020 02:07 PM

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Walls are necessary.
But what is also necessary is an effective system that preserves humanity's fundamental right to move across political borders.
This does not mean a flood of poor people, but rather a slow trickle that is allowed to assimilate.

This means helping out other nations instead of continuously warring. War wastes men, materiel, and the riches of a nation to enrich a small few.

Weak leaders have precipitated this world in turmoil. Strong individuals have to put the lid on the trashcan of anarchy, chaos, and communism.

vft1008 06-05-2020 03:41 PM

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So sad to see integrity-less dreamers lately that would vote for the party that stands for:

-Anti-immigrant (Hypocrisy to support the party that constantly wants to fuck you over and then burn and piss on your corpse, regardless if you immigrated here or if your parents brought you here.)
-Climate change denial
-Evolution denial
-Anti-stem cell research
-Anti-science in general
-Anti-educaiton and for keeping people uneducated and on their leash for votes
-Anti-LGBT
-Pro-extreme religion just for votes, including senseless evangelicals that are some of the stupidest people on the face of the planet
-Putting shitbags like the following in a position of power:
a) Stephen Miller
b) Steve Bannon
c) Betsy Devos
d) Mike King
e) Mitch Mcconnell
d) Roy Moore
e) Ted Cruz

All of you are pathetic.

jwxie518 06-05-2020 04:40 PM

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as long as i have a job....that pays 6 figures...

Nexus 06-05-2020 10:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 747849)
So sad to see integrity-less dreamers lately that would vote for the party that stands for:

-Anti-immigrant (Hypocrisy to support the party that constantly wants to fuck you over and then burn and piss on your corpse, regardless if you immigrated here or if your parents brought you here.)
-Climate change denial
-Evolution denial
-Anti-stem cell research
-Anti-science in general
-Anti-educaiton and for keeping people uneducated and on their leash for votes
-Anti-LGBT
-Pro-extreme religion just for votes, including senseless evangelicals that are some of the stupidest people on the face of the planet
-Putting shitbags like the following in a position of power:
a) Stephen Miller
b) Steve Bannon
c) Betsy Devos
d) Mike King
e) Mitch Mcconnell
d) Roy Moore
e) Ted Cruz

All of you are pathetic.

It's unfair to "bucket" everything into that and assume a person would vote for a party/person because of everything you just outlined. Everyone has their priority issue or issues of why they would vote for one party over another. If we remove our issue of DACA, my tendencies would lean me republican because for the most part they are more pro-business and the more capitalistic friendly party. For myself, I don't care as much about the other things, at the end of the day it is about the economy to me.

I am not tied to a party, if a democratic candidate proved to be more friendly for me when it comes to the economy and my wallet, then I would for him or her.

Not sure why you have to hurl insults if people who are immigrants would vote for a Republican. You do realize that the last immigration reform came under a Republican named Ronald Reagan. If you want to vote for a democratic candidate, that's your choice and I respect your decision but don't hurl insults at others for deciding to vote a different way.

Got_Daca 06-05-2020 11:17 PM

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2nd page and nobody said this is not news

Nexus 06-06-2020 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 747866)
2nd page and nobody said this is not news

Good point, haha.

justjohnjustice1988 06-06-2020 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexus (Post 747864)
It's unfair to "bucket" everything into that and assume a person would vote for a party/person because of everything you just outlined. Everyone has their priority issue or issues of why they would vote for one party over another. If we remove our issue of DACA, my tendencies would lean me republican because for the most part they are more pro-business and the more capitalistic friendly party. For myself, I don't care as much about the other things, at the end of the day it is about the economy to me.

I am not tied to a party, if a democratic candidate proved to be more friendly for me when it comes to the economy and my wallet, then I would for him or her.

Not sure why you have to hurl insults if people who are immigrants would vote for a Republican. You do realize that the last immigration reform came under a Republican named Ronald Reagan. If you want to vote for a democratic candidate, that's your choice and I respect your decision but don't hurl insults at others for deciding to vote a different way.

The Left likes to label entire groups of people as this and that.

That's why they will lose.

Middle America is tired of the race wars. I am.

DogJuiceMan 06-06-2020 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 747870)
The Left likes to label entire groups of people as this and that.

That's why they will lose.

Middle America is tired of the race wars. I am.

Identity politics are also very tiresome.


People don't want to be stereotyped according to one group.

Dream becomes Reality 06-06-2020 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus (Post 747864)
It's unfair to "bucket" everything into that and assume a person would vote for a party/person because of everything you just outlined. Everyone has their priority issue or issues of why they would vote for one party over another. If we remove our issue of DACA, my tendencies would lean me republican because for the most part they are more pro-business and the more capitalistic friendly party. For myself, I don't care as much about the other things, at the end of the day it is about the economy to me.

I am not tied to a party, if a democratic candidate proved to be more friendly for me when it comes to the economy and my wallet, then I would for him or her.

Not sure why you have to hurl insults if people who are immigrants would vote for a Republican. You do realize that the last immigration reform came under a Republican named Ronald Reagan. If you want to vote for a democratic candidate, that's your choice and I respect your decision but don't hurl insults at others for deciding to vote a different way.

Hmmm so if I am understanding you correctly if you weren't affected by DACA you wouldn't care about social issues and economic issues affecting fellow citizens as long as YOUR pockets are good? Okay got it!

DogJuiceMan 06-06-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 747873)
Hmmm so if I am understanding you correctly if you weren't affected by DACA you wouldn't care about social issues and economic issues affecting fellow citizens as long as YOUR pockets are good? Okay got it!

It's clear you care very deeply about social and economic issues, but you have to realize not everyone cares as much as you.

I only care about economic and foreign policy.

JayR9 06-06-2020 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 747875)
It's clear you care very deeply about social and economic issues, but you have to realize not everyone cares as much as you.

I only care about economic and foreign policy.

Guess you don't care about immigration?

DogJuiceMan 06-06-2020 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 747879)
Guess you don't care about immigration?

Seems like I do care about social issues, at least just 1.

Dream becomes Reality 06-06-2020 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 747879)
Guess you don't care about immigration?

Right?!
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 747875)
It's clear you care very deeply about social and economic issues, but you have to realize not everyone cares as much as you.

I only care about economic and foreign policy.

You sound like one of those immigrants that wants to shut the door behind them as soon as they get "theirs." That is a very poor view and it never gets anybody far. Hopefully you learn to change that view.

Nexus 06-06-2020 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 747873)
Hmmm so if I am understanding you correctly if you weren't affected by DACA you wouldn't care about social issues and economic issues affecting fellow citizens as long as YOUR pockets are good? Okay got it!

No, it doesn't mean that I don't care about social issues or economic issues. Off course I want equal rights for all, equal justice for all, and a basic playing field for all. I just fundamentally believe that as a whole we are all better off with capitalism than any other system. My parents came to America because of what America is, the land of opportunity and anyone can make it through hard work. Everyone goes through their own struggles in life but America is a great nation, it's sad that the main stream media is driving the narrative that America is not.

justjohnjustice1988 06-06-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus (Post 747882)
No, it doesn't mean that I don't care about social issues or economic issues. Off course I want equal rights for all, equal justice for all, and a basic playing field for all. I just fundamentally believe that as a whole we are all better off with capitalism than any other system. My parents came to America because of what America is, the land of opportunity and anyone can make it through hard work. Everyone goes through their own struggles in life but America is a great nation, it's sad that the main stream media is driving the narrative that America is not.

Yeah. I just don't get the complainants.

The USA is the best country in the world for anyone to start a business and move up.

Identify politics only keep people in power who don't care about you being successful.

DogJuiceMan 06-07-2020 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 747881)
You sound like one of those immigrants that wants to shut the door behind them as soon as they get "theirs." That is a very poor view and it never gets anybody far. Hopefully you learn to change that view.

I can actually make a list of which immigrants I care about
H1Bs: Some of them are pretty legit and deserve a fair chance at a GC.

DACAs: Self explanatory.

Others: I may have missed one or two others. Don't dreamactforum and cook.

Then the immigration policy of the united states should be reformed into being an uncapped system, BUT, it should be merit based like basically every other advanced nation.

Score X number of points, get extra points from family ties. Welcome. Got a good job that was posted to the internet, job boards with fair requirements that Americans could reasonably meet? Welcome.

Demise 06-07-2020 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 747893)
I can actually make a list of which immigrants I care about
H1Bs: Some of them are pretty legit and deserve a fair chance at a GC.

DACAs: Self explanatory.

Others: I may have missed one or two others. Don't dreamactforum and cook.

Then the immigration policy of the united states should be reformed into being an uncapped system, BUT, it should be merit based like basically every other advanced nation.

Score X number of points, get extra points from family ties. Welcome. Got a good job that was posted to the internet, job boards with fair requirements that Americans could reasonably meet? Welcome.

Honestly the entire system could be fixed by doing 3 things:
1. Reinstate 245(i)
2. Get rid of re-entry bars
3. Increase quotas and the per country limit percentage. Literally the only reason why I think that the per country limit should stay is because without it Mexicans would crash the family system and Indians and Chinese would crash the employment system, maybe weight it by country population, idk. Still, if your system produces 20 year backlogs then frankly, your system is shit.

Then we can start thinking about updating the labor process because that shit hasn't been updated since 1990s. When's the last time anyone of us bought a newspaper. I used to do labor petitions for a living and we'd ask the applicants to fax resumes just to make sure that nobody except someone outright trying to piss off companies trying to do EB-2/3 would ever apply.

Canadian-esque merit system could work but I think you should have a job lined up or some relative willing to sign I-864 for you before you get your immigrant visa.


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