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2Face 07-19-2020 09:02 PM

Scoop: Trump's license to skirt the law
 
Alright, calling on our DAP resident Attorneys and Attorneys in training. Please chime in on this. When Trump says "Congress has given him the ability to do things never imagined before..through the DACA ruling" does he have any sort of point in that? What is he referring to?

https://www.axios.com/trump-executiv...e670797b2.html


President Trump and top White House officials are privately considering a controversial strategy to act without legal authority to enact new federal policies — starting with immigration, administration officials tell Axios.

Between the lines: The White House thinking is being heavily influenced by John Yoo, the lawyer who wrote the Bush administration's justification for waterboarding after 9/11.

Yoo detailed the theory in a National Review article, spotted atop Trump’s desk in the Oval Office, which argues that the Supreme Court's 5-4 DACA ruling last month "makes it easy for presidents to violate the law."

The president has brought up the article with key advisers, two Trump administration officials tell Axios.
Yoo writes that the ruling, and actions by President Obama, pave the way for Trump to implement policies that Congress won't.

Some could remain in force for years even if he loses re-election.
Yoo — who next week will be out with a new book, "Defender in Chief," on Trump's use of presidential power — tells Axios that he has met virtually with White House officials about the implications of the ruling.
What's next: The first test could come imminently. Trump has said he is about to unveil a "very major" immigration policy via executive order, which he says the Supreme Court gave him the power to do.

The order could include some protections for immigrants who traveled to the U.S. illegally as children, something most Americans support.
That could be a political olive branch to Latino voters, though the Trump administration moved to end the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which led to the Supreme Court's involvement.
The order could also include significant new restrictions on immigration that couldn't get through Congress but are favored by the president, Jared Kushner and hardline adviser Stephen Miller.
Driving the news: Yoo told Axios that Chief Justice John Roberts' opinion "sets out a roadmap about how a president can use his prosecutorial discretion to under-enforce the law."

The recourse would be if the next president tries to reverse what's set in motion.
"Suppose President Donald Trump decided to create a nationwide right to carry guns openly," Yoo writes in his National Review op-ed. "He could declare that he would not enforce federal firearms laws, and that a new 'Trump permit' would free any holder of state and local gun-control restrictions."
"Even if Trump knew that his scheme lacked legal authority, he could get away with it for the length of his presidency. And, moreover, even if courts declared the permit illegal, his successor would have to keep enforcing the program for another year or two."
Reality check: This is a somewhat strained reading of both procedural history and the law, according to Axios’ Sam Baker. The Supreme Court has never ruled either way on DACA’s legality.

But the Supreme Court wouldn’t be able to decide the merits of anything Trump does before the election.
Two administration officials told Axios that although the president has shown an interest in Yoo's thinking, the White House wouldn't rely solely on that.
"You have to act in good faith, and think that what you’re doing is good and legal," one official said.
"It's very much in dispute as to whether or not the president has that much control over immigration through executive order," a second official said.
What we're watching: Trump told Chris Wallace in an interview for "Fox News Sunday" that in addition to replacing DACA with "something much better," he's also going to be unveiling a health care plan within two weeks "that the Supreme Court decision on DACA gave me the right to do."

The White House declined to comment for this story.

Charolastra 07-19-2020 09:35 PM

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Don’t get too excited.

1. Trump is a lying snake
2. Whatever this mythical EO gives us is probably a downgrade from what we have now. What could he possibly give us besides longer periods between renewals? He can’t give us legal permanent status, only Congress can do that.

fl_dreamer 07-19-2020 10:03 PM

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Can't hate the balls on this guy. He takes any and all situation and manipulates it to his advantage.

beingoflight 07-19-2020 10:16 PM

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Could it be some bullshit that ends if he is not elected? Some kind of we signing our voluntary deportation in order to get this "protection"?

Whatever it is it has to be better than DACA to fk over the democrats and make them look bad.

Chn 07-20-2020 02:25 AM

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It's probably the Goodlatte bill in executive action form, plus some money for the wall sprinkled on for good measure. These executive orders will probably be so blatantly unconstitutional that Trump is going to all but dare Democrats to sue.

Of course the DACA measures are going to be tied to the rest of the shitty executive orders so Trump can say Democrats hate DACA. Then 2Face and beingoflight will come in here to do their daily bitching about Democrats cause they love to miss the forest for the trees

The End

made4u 07-20-2020 06:28 AM

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I dont understand dreamer republicans....ya'll make no sense

jimmy777page 07-20-2020 07:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by made4u (Post 750441)
I dont understand dreamer republicans....ya'll make no sense

They like to fuck themselves.

Smooth 07-20-2020 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chn (Post 750440)
It's probably the Goodlatte bill in executive action form, plus some money for the wall sprinkled on for good measure. These executive orders will probably be so blatantly unconstitutional that Trump is going to all but dare Democrats to sue.

Of course the DACA measures are going to be tied to the rest of the shitty executive orders so Trump can say Democrats hate DACA. Then 2Face and beingoflight will come in here to do their daily bitching about Democrats cause they love to miss the forest for the trees

The End

Funny thing is Democrats will not need to sue. Most likely the Texas attorney general will sue. Lol

Such order will not last more than a week.

Demise 07-20-2020 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 750438)
Could it be some bullshit that ends if he is not elected? Some kind of we signing our voluntary deportation in order to get this "protection"?

Whatever it is it has to be better than DACA to fk over the democrats and make them look bad.

Did the antipsychotics finally kick in?

Hallowpoint1911 07-20-2020 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy777page (Post 750442)
They like to fuck themselves.

Most republicans like to vote against their interests so it only makes sense.

2Face 07-20-2020 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by made4u (Post 750441)
I dont understand dreamer republicans....ya'll make no sense

Umm ever heard of something called Freedom of Speech?

2MoreYears 07-20-2020 11:44 AM

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It is like being in a circus and the main act is about to start. Cannot miss this show.

2Face 07-20-2020 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 750448)
It is like being in a circus and the main act is about to start. Cannot miss this show.

Why don't you finish up with your lesser more boring act so we can get to the main act quick...:lol::lol:

FLDreamerrr 07-20-2020 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chn (Post 750440)
It's probably the Goodlatte bill in executive action form, plus some money for the wall sprinkled on for good measure. These executive orders will probably be so blatantly unconstitutional that Trump is going to all but dare Democrats to sue.

Of course the DACA measures are going to be tied to the rest of the shitty executive orders so Trump can say Democrats hate DACA. Then 2Face and beingoflight will come in here to do their daily bitching about Democrats cause they love to miss the forest for the trees

The End

Sounds about right no cap

beingoflight 07-20-2020 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 750446)
Umm ever heard of something called Freedom of Speech?

Not only that, some people dont follow the herd. Some people are smart enough to be neutral.

2MoreYears 07-20-2020 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 750462)
Not only that, some people dont follow the herd. Some people are smart enough to be neutral.

Joke of the day.

2MoreYears 07-20-2020 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 750450)
Why don't you finish up with your lesser more boring act so we can get to the main act quick...:lol::lol:

The main act is you are full of BS.

2Face 07-20-2020 04:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 750462)
Not only that, some people dont follow the herd. Some people are smart enough to be neutral.

I was thinking about the Goya CEO guy and the big controversy...I mean, we are free to say we support whoever the President is. You can't just call for a "boycott" of the whole Company. You'll never win, the corporations always win in the end. And I think that whole Goya CEO event, hispanic initiative, and the upcoming executive orders are all linked. Based on Hilario's posts on facebook, I think he is aware of something. I don't know what, but something.

Smooth 07-20-2020 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 750467)
I was thinking about the Goya CEO guy and the big controversy...I mean, we are free to say we support whoever the President is. You can't just call for a "boycott" of the whole Company. You'll never win, the corporations always win in the end. And I think that whole Goya CEO event, hispanic initiative, and the upcoming executive orders are all linked. Based on Hilario's posts on facebook, I think he is aware of something. I don't know what, but something.

Dudes, if there were a loophole in the law based on Trump wants to do, legal scholars would have already enlightened us on it like they beautifully did on DACA. Not some morons who just talk out their asses.

Goya's sponsorship of trump or the goya initiative will not get us citizenship via executive order, it won't bring back 2pac or biggie smalls. For fucks sake you guys....stop these conspiracy theories. Hilario or trump aren't part of an exclusive illuminati cult that have all the answers to our problems. The fuck is wrong with y'll man.

Smooth 07-20-2020 05:00 PM

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This is beyond wishful thinking. This is like you guys telling me a car is a kia when it's really a bloody mustang.

2Face 07-20-2020 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 750469)
This is beyond wishful thinking. This is like you guys telling me a car is a kia when it's really a bloody mustang.

No but the point is..SOMETHING will give, not saying what..not saying it will be great for Dreamers just saying..massive executive action is on the cards. Trumpster's going to go to any length to get votes.

Smooth 07-20-2020 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 750477)
No but the point is..SOMETHING will give, not saying what..not saying it will be great for Dreamers just saying..massive executive action is on the cards. Trumpster's going to go to any length to get votes.

Who cares if he pisses gold. We don't care. Fuck that guy.

Outsider626 07-20-2020 08:22 PM

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beingoflight 07-20-2020 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 750478)
Who cares if he pisses gold. We don't care. Fuck that guy.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/...cnn-5bd364.jpg

PapiChulo 07-20-2020 09:03 PM

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beingoflight,

you corny, dude. get some new material.

Smooth 07-20-2020 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 750480)

Beingoflight waiting for his daily dose of orange dick from Trump.

vft1008 07-20-2020 09:07 PM

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We ain't getting anything good from this admin. The end.

made4u 07-20-2020 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smooth (Post 750478)
who cares if he pisses gold. We don't care. Fuck that guy.

agreed!


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