Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell's inability to quickly strike a deal on a power-sharing agreement in the new 50-50 Congress is slowing down everything from the confirmation of President Biden's nominees to Donald Trump's impeachment trial.

Why it matters: Whatever final stance Schumer takes on the stalemate, which largely comes down to Democrats wanting to use the legislative filibuster as leverage over Republicans, will be a signal of the level of hardball we should expect Democrats to play with Republicans in the new Senate.

The holdups: Everything being done in the Senate right now is operating on unanimous consent agreements, which can only work for so long and won't fly when Democrats try to pass serious legislation, like a forthcoming pandemic relief bill.

The committee ratios are currently in favor of Republicans, and Democrats need the power sharing accord to sort out the new committee make-ups and chairmen.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she is waiting to send the article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate until the organizing resolution is completed (a similar posture she insisted on in Trump's first impeachment trial).

State of play: McConnell and the GOP conference want an upfront commitment from Democrats that they will not try to eliminate the 60-vote legislative threshold and hold it over their heads during negotiations over the next two-plus years.

Many Senate Republicans have begun circulating a bipartisan letter from 2017 signed by 61 senators, including then-Senator Kamala Harris, who supported upholding the filibuster when Republicans ruled both chambers of Congress and the White House.

What they're saying: “I think at the moment, it’s a little bit stalled out, but I hope they can get back on track," Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) said of the status of the sharing agreement. "Obviously the big issue was the legislative filibuster."

Centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.): “Chuck has the right to do what he’s doing. He has the right to use [the filibuster] to leverage in whatever he wants to do. .... They’re not going to grind this place to a halt."

Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.): “There was a letter that Sens. Collins and Coons generated [in] 2017 when, at the time, President Trump was calling for an elimination of the filibuster pretty forcefully ... senators said ‘no, we should not change that, we should continue with the legislative filibuster.’"

https://www.axios.com/schumer-mcconn...ff3cb006c.html

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

Dems should really play hardball

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Can someone plz explain why? I thought the majority party holds chairmanship? How does the ratio make up get deteremined and when do committees re-elect membership?

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McConnell is over-playing his hand here.

If he keeps this up, the filibuster will be gone for sure and gives Schumer and Democrats a lot of political capital.

Schumer is the Majority Leader and he needs to act like one, can't take threats from McConnell like McConnell is still somehow leader.

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How cute. The Republicans want fairness and decency from the Dems:
Too bad the Dems don't have the balls to play dirty now that they have a chance.

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Ultimately is up to Schumer and the other 49 dems if they want to kill the filibuster, and if they do, bitch McConnell, McCarthy and even Biden can't do anything about it.

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Fking kill it

Give us 3 year path to citizenship

We will move to TX and turn it blue by 2024

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

This!

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lol, Texas ag is already trying to get rid of Biden's 100 day deportation halt. I see more daca lawsuits coming soon.


https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-poli...-QEOFfrc6hDOjI

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Joe Manchin gonna turn on us watch he’s going to be the most important one with the most power now

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I hope he kills daca. Dead daca would help the dream act go through more quickly for a permanent solution.

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

I am willing to roll the dice now, dont wait until republicans take back one branch of the government. Now or never....

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There aren't 50 votes to kill the filibuster.

Get real

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

Hey loser, mad Trump lost?

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Lmfaooo

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

Fuck off back to /pol/

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your point of view dont mean shit here after you spent the first 6 months of 2020 bootlickin' Biden then calling Trump would win the last 6 months, clown.

loser gay maga tucker carlson boot lickin' mfer. go sign up for Parler.

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I think DACA fix needs a chance in the Senate.

Bring back Collins-Round!

That will pass. Maybe 60/61? Barely

But it's up to Senate Dems to find middle ground and not give in to Pelosi.

Whatever Marco Rubio will support passes.

I think we got

- Mitt Romney (UT)
-Lindsay Graham (SC)
-Liss Murkowksi (AK)
-John Corny (TX)
-Susan Collins (ME)
-Tom Tillis (NC)
-Mike Rounds (SD)
-Marco Rubio (FL)
-James Lankford

So technically we are shy 2-3 votes IF all Dems vote yay (Manchin and Sinema could defect 🤷🏻*♂️)

So yeah Dems need to let Durbin talk to Graham and get the temperature of the GOP for any proposal.

Its a deal that Manchin should be able to support we well as someone like Lankford or a Mike Rounds

Its always the details of the legislative text that determines the outcome

Of course the Senate should have amendments to any bill so all sides gets to see which version is the most bipartisan.

This could be the one and only thing Biden could get passed IF he uses his knowledge of the Senate.

The house would most like just rubber-stamp it and boom.

But we got DACA for another 4 years so I think we are not in danger even if that fails...unless Texas sues....🤷🏻*♂️🤣

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

You deserve nothing. Self deport already.

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

I just logged in to say that you’re stupid.

Have a great rest of your Friday, asshole.

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Kill the darn filibuster, McTurtle needs to get in his cave
Dems pu***es ace beaches

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They should just say if you don't agree with the rules, then we'll kill the filibuster. Fuck off. Give them that ultimatum and pass CIR, Mininum wage, Covid relief, and everything. GOP has nothing in terms of policy. They will do what? Eliminate ACA and abortion? Good luck ever winning an election ever again.

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If they kill filibuster and pass cir they got millions more voters so they should do the investment

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They need voters in red states not voters in general.

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If Dems can pass DA in some form without killing the filibuster, then absolutely no, they shouldn't kill it.

This is where Schumer needs to make a deal. No killing of filibuster but DA and some other measures gets to pass.

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The problem is that if the republicans get involved then they'll add all kinds of poison pills and we'll end up with a Goodlatte bill which only covers 50% of the daca population.

The dems should just kill the filibuster, not only for immigration but for everything else they want. It's only a matter of time before the filibuster gets killed anyway, imagine if trump or someone like him wins again with the control on the senate/house, they would kill the filibuster, deports us all, and order general lee statues to be raised everywhere lol

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If the tables were turned, the Republicans would want to kill the fillibuster.

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Texas would flip and FL would most likely turn blue... pretty much all you need

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Texas

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GOP rushed the Supreme Court justice which was dirty so they need to play hard ball too

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don't give a fuck what your boy lil marco think can pass or not.

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

lmaoooo, what you mean WE?!?

you ain’t one of us after all the bullshit you were spreading here last year.

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Majority always has a majority on all committees and subcommitties. The ratio tends to depend on how big of a majority it is and that's only because you don't want to split your senators too thin.

The only reason why you're stuck with an anomaly like Ted Cruz heading the judiciary right now is because Schumer hasn't reshuffled the assignments yet after democrats took the senate.

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Ok good luck passing anything without GOP votes

Dems will never nuke the filibuster over us.

Get real.

And I love you back guys.

You Leftist sheep

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i agree with you on this but still... you are a looooooooser.

loser gay boy.

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

You mad bro?

Trump lost! all you predicted was shit.

LOHOOO ZHE HEEERRRR!!

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Fuck the GOP.

I'm not leftist you dumb right wing POS.

JustJohn's people:
https://youtu.be/7OeeHz0uNdM

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McConnell can fuck right off. It's good that Manchin is using this as an excuse and hinting at flip-flopping on killing the filibuster.


kill filibuster
pack the court
kill citizens united
election reform
PR statehood
DC statehood
CIR

goodbye GOP

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

the filibuster isn't legislation

Re: Stalemate over filibuster freezes Congress
 

he doesn't know the difference. He's still trying to figure out Q theories