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hDreamer1988 01-28-2021 03:12 PM

Durbin, Graham teaming up on immigration bill
 
What many people predicted on this site is happening and it's good news for us. If they keep it simple and stay away from complex poison pills (looking at house libs and right wings), then this has a good shot.




https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...tion-bill?rl=1

2MoreYears 01-28-2021 03:43 PM

Re: Durbin, Graham teaming up on immigration bill
 
MAGAs in da house are rolling in their puddle of BS right now. Namely 2Face and comapany (beingofdark and justjhonBS )

tyler129 01-28-2021 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 756602)
MAGAs in da house are rolling in their puddle of BS right now. Namely 2Face and comapany (beingofdark and justjhonBS )

2Face switched over

eva02 01-28-2021 03:55 PM

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Republicans only want to compromise because the threat of getting rid of the filibuster exists. Democrats should say fuck it and get rid of it and push all the shit they want. They would all win re-election and provide 11 million voters for the party.

2Face 01-28-2021 03:59 PM

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There they are the dynamic duo Graham and Durbin! This was only a matter of time. This is the right approach. A magnificent deal is on the cards. With strong intention of getting something passed these guys can get it done and Joey Biden can provide the leadership to bring together the Senate and House together! The Great Patrick Leahy from Vermont will lead this in the committee and get this to the Senate Floor and everything else will be history from there.

Immediate legalization of Dreamers is on the horizon!

Got_Daca 01-28-2021 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 756604)
Republicans only want to compromise because the threat of getting rid of the filibuster exists. Democrats should say fuck it and get rid of it and push all the shit they want. They would all win re-election and provide 11 million voters for the party.

Manchin and Sinema buckled

vft1008 01-28-2021 04:19 PM

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Going through the motions yet again.

Bi-partisan team up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Draft legislation gets written up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Negotiations to modify the legislation goes south. Poison pills are introduced. Compromising doesn't happen as it should. Not enough support/votes are gained.
Dreamers get mad.
Nothing ends up happening.

Rinse and repeat.

Smooth 01-28-2021 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 756608)
Going through the motions yet again.

Bi-partisan team up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Draft legislation gets written up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Negotiations to modify the legislation goes south. Poison pills are introduced. Compromising doesn't happen as it should. Not enough support/votes are gained.
Dreamers get mad.
Nothing ends up happening.

Rinse and repeat.

Add one more: if proven wrong, kicked in the groin until you sound like bitch ass pikachu.

FLDreamerrr 01-28-2021 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 756608)
Going through the motions yet again.

Bi-partisan team up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Draft legislation gets written up.
Dreamers get hyped.
Negotiations to modify the legislation goes south. Poison pills are introduced. Compromising doesn't happen as it should. Not enough support/votes are gained.
Dreamers get mad.
Nothing ends up happening.

Rinse and repeat.

Hate to say this but this is what it looks like to me

justjohnjustice1988 01-28-2021 04:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 756602)
MAGAs in da house are rolling in their puddle of BS right now. Namely 2Face and comapany (beingofdark and justjhonBS )

The love...I feel it

Triggering Leftists since 2020

vft1008 01-28-2021 04:36 PM

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∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞

https://webstockreview.net/images/ro...part-ups-4.jpg

JayR9 01-28-2021 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 756604)
Republicans only want to compromise because the threat of getting rid of the filibuster exists. Democrats should say fuck it and get rid of it and push all the shit they want. They would all win re-election and provide 11 million voters for the party.

yeah, if democrats grew some balls it they would lock down reelection easy.

frbc13 01-28-2021 05:12 PM

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Big D & Lady G....2 men on 1 quest....for Justice.

bigdreamer2010 01-28-2021 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 756615)
yeah, if democrats grew some balls it they would lock down reelection easy.

Yeah. It’s amazing that democrats don’t push popular legislation because they want to appease the Republicans that won’t vote for it anyway. The dream act is popular, the $15 minimum wage is popular and the stimulus checks are popular. Why let the Republicans prevent you from delivering popular legislation?

The fillibuster should be eliminated. If Republicans want to pass their unpopular legislation like 20 week abortion ban, then pass it and let them pay for it at the ballot box.

2Face 01-28-2021 05:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 756618)
Yeah. It’s amazing that democrats don’t push popular legislation because they want to appease the Republicans that won’t vote for it anyway. The dream act is popular, the $15 minimum wage is popular and the stimulus checks are popular. Why let the Republicans prevent you from delivering popular legislation?

The fillibuster should be eliminated. If Republicans want to pass their unpopular legislation like 20 week abortion ban, then pass it and let them pay for it at the ballot box.

Maybe because they like to preserve those issues....for future rallying? Fortunately...I think this issue has been pushed down as far as possible and time is now to get Dream Act passed.

frbc13 01-28-2021 05:35 PM

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127th time is the charm

vft1008 01-28-2021 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 756618)
Yeah. It’s amazing that democrats don’t push popular legislation because they want to appease the Republicans that won’t vote for it anyway. The dream act is popular, the $15 minimum wage is popular and the stimulus checks are popular. Why let the Republicans prevent you from delivering popular legislation?

The fillibuster should be eliminated. If Republicans want to pass their unpopular legislation like 20 week abortion ban, then pass it and let them pay for it at the ballot box.

Agree 100%. People worked their assess off to get at least a 50/50 senate. All for nothing.

We have seen enough of Republican bullshit the last 10 or so years. Fuck the Republicans. Let's make some progress. Oh, wait... that would require Dems to grow a backbone and some balls.

As always. Same old. Same old.

2MoreYears 01-28-2021 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 756611)
The love...I feel it

Triggering Leftists since 2020

More like making me LMAO!


"....you illegals have no idea... TRUMP is gonna kick ass in the elections...blab blah bla bla"

LOHOOOO ZHE HEEEEER hahahajahahhjahaha

"..our parents should be deported... blah blahhh"

Self deport already boi, make your master tRump happy.

skysla 01-28-2021 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Graham on Thursday added that he wouldn’t support passing the forthcoming bill as a stand-alone, if they can’t get a larger deal, and doesn't think 10 Republicans would give it the support needed for it to overcome a filibuster.
So, he will not support the DREAM Act if the negotiation fails and the Democrats try to pass the DREAM Act alone.

Swim19 01-28-2021 08:02 PM

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@MHackman
Here we go again: Durbin tells hill pool he and Graham are working on a possible Dreamers deal. "we will have the base bill reintroduced," he said. "And then that'll be our starting point to build support, as well as consider any additions to it. It is tricky territory."

hDreamer1988 01-28-2021 08:02 PM

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So, he will not support the DREAM Act if the negotiation fails and the Democrats try to pass the DREAM Act alone.
I interpret that more as if liberals, liberal it up.. No border security, 11M citizenships, and all the other things on the wishlist. The Billl needs to stay center and cannot shift too far left or right. Narrow and Focuses, free of poison pills. That is why the house has me worried.

Any GOP who votes for this bill needs the cover to say that it's a good bill for the nation and security... if not they won't get re-elected. They are not going to end their careers on this.

Got_Daca 01-28-2021 08:26 PM

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What did I tell you

Predicted it before Biden took office

http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=84726

bigdreamer2010 01-28-2021 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 756629)
I interpret that more as if liberals, liberal it up.. No border security, 11M citizenships, and all the other things on the wishlist. The Billl needs to stay center and cannot shift too far left or right. Narrow and Focuses, free of poison pills. That is why the house has me worried.

Any GOP who votes for this bill needs the cover to say that it's a good bill for the nation and security... if not they won't get re-elected. They are not going to end their careers on this.

Lol. We’ve seen this game for the last 12 years. The border is more militarized then ever, Obama deported the most people, 238G, real id, expanded mandatory detention, arrests by border patrol away from the border etc etc

Republicans have gotten nearly everything they wanted and with the exception of DACA, immigrants have gotten no relief. So please stop with the “appEAse the RePubLicans” nonsense

dtrt09 01-28-2021 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 756604)
Republicans only want to compromise because the threat of getting rid of the filibuster exists. Democrats should say fuck it and get rid of it and push all the shit they want. They would all win re-election and provide 11 million voters for the party.

It's gaslighting.
Get rid of the filibuster.

PapiChulo 01-28-2021 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 756611)
The love...I feel it

Triggering Leftists since 2020

whats your username on Parler, bro? imma look you up.
my username is MagaDreamer2021.

im assuming youre on the gay conservative members group. imma find you, dawg. add me.

vft1008 01-28-2021 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papichulo (Post 756637)
whats your username on parler, bro? Imma look you up.
My username is magadreamer2021.

Im assuming youre on the gay conservative members group. Imma find you, dawg. Add me.

looool

Imthexman 01-28-2021 10:33 PM

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Waing for this new DA bill text like..

hDreamer1988 01-28-2021 10:38 PM

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Even fox news reported it and has not bashed it as amnesty. We are living in a parallel world/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...isan-bill-hill

lalaland45 01-29-2021 12:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 756642)
Even fox news reported it and has not bashed it as amnesty. We are living in a parallel world/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...isan-bill-hill

you just have to read the comments to know how the republican base actually feels.

JayR9 01-29-2021 12:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 756637)
whats your username on Parler, bro? imma look you up.
my username is MagaDreamer2021.

im assuming youre on the gay conservative members group. imma find you, dawg. add me.

lmaooo

hDreamer1988 01-29-2021 12:48 AM

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Quote:

you just have to read the comments to know how the republican base actually feels.
lol i read a few, those are the more extreme part of their base......

bigdreamer2010 01-29-2021 09:55 AM

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The same party that convinced Americans that wealth trickles down and universal healthcare is bad for them has convinced immigrants that they have to toss all other immigrants under the bus in order for them to have a pathway to citizenship.

hDreamer1988 01-29-2021 10:20 AM

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The same party that convinced Americans that wealth trickles down and universal healthcare is bad for them has convinced immigrants that they have to toss all other immigrants under the bus in order for them to have a pathway to citizenship.
Which kind of immigrants are you referring to and how are other immigrants tossing other immigrants under the bus?

bigdreamer2010 01-29-2021 10:42 AM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...l-conservative

In the house bill last session: revoking DV lottery, revoking family based sponsorship, defund sanctuary cities, mandatory e-verify, bullshit merit based immigration system where only 30% on DACA would even qualify and so on and so forth.

From the senate (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/2649371002) they wanted to get rid of asylum, increase detention space, hire more ICE agents etc etc.

We’ve been told that these things are necessary in order for DACA folks to get a pathway to citizenship (and their bills didn’t even give us citizenship) It’s 100% bullshit.

The bill can pass as a stand-alone. Reublicans just don’t want to vote for it and empower the communities they’ve been terrorizing for decades.

I think Graham and Durban should hang it up. We’ve seen their show before and it hasn’t been effective. I think Joaquin Castro and house democrats will deliver.

tyler129 01-29-2021 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 756652)
Which kind of immigrants are you referring to and how are other immigrants tossing other immigrants under the bus?

there exist many legal immigrants w/ work visas who applied for PR & they r against DA bc they believe that we will slow down their process of getting PR.

u heard it rite.

they r literally against us bc they think that we would slow down the USCIS processes of obtaining their PR.

bigdreamer2010 01-29-2021 11:22 AM

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Dick Durbin has been an advocate and great ally for us over the last 20 years. But he needs to come out and tell the truth that regardless of what’s in the Dream Act bill, we will not get 10 Republicans to vote for it if it really has a chance of becoming Law.

lalaland45 01-29-2021 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler129 (Post 756655)
there exist many legal immigrants w/ work visas who applied for PR & they r against DA bc they believe that we will slow down their process of getting PR.

u heard it rite.

they r literally against us bc they think that we would slow down the USCIS processes of obtaining their PR.

well that is human nature in general, especially seen in this country. It's easier to pit two minorities against each other than to have them accept that the real source of their problems may be the government or corporations or the wealthy.

hDreamer1988 01-29-2021 11:51 AM

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Dick Durbin has been an advocate and great ally for us over the last 20 years. But he needs to come out and tell the truth that regardless of what’s in the Dream Act bill, we will not get 10 Republicans to vote for it if it really has a chance of becoming Law.
It's in the initial stages and they are trying to build the coalition in order to get 10 senate republican votes, and if they can, the bill will be sponsored by more than just graham on the republican side. All of those add ons were what was required to get those senators to vote yes; ice, lottery, and so on.

No bill will pass without those kinds of provisions and getting 10 GOP senators is an uphill battle. . The concept of a clean DA is a pipe dream.

eva02 01-29-2021 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 756658)
It's in the initial stages and they are trying to build the coalition in order to get 10 senate republican votes, and if they can, the bill will be sponsored by more than just graham on the republican side. All of those add ons were what was required to get those senators to vote yes; ice, lottery, and so on.

No bill will pass without those kinds of provisions and getting 10 GOP senators is an uphill battle. . The concept of a clean DA is a pipe dream.

Not if we abolish the filibuster

hDreamer1988 01-29-2021 02:31 PM

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Not if we abolish the filibuster
How long will democrats stay in power if they abolish the filibuster? Are we assuming that if the more hardcore members of the GOP regain the government that they won't undo everything that was done with a simple majority vote? That they wont go after our GC and revoke our citizenship. They would be able to pass a bill to do just that; we could sue but then the courts are in the GOP's favor. Imagine if the GOP killed the filibuster as Trump was demanding they do.. what would have happened to us then. I am frustrated by the Senate and their inability to pass anything but there needs to be some kind of check on the party in power.

The party that kills the filibuster will undoubtedly lose control of the senate in the following midterms.

I think the only way forward is through bipartisan support. I could be wrong but I don't see it happening with just the support of a single party. Even if the Dems did kill the filibuster, you are assuming that all dem senators will vote for the bill... including the ones in deep-red states.


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