Schumer Readies Plan B to Push Immigration Changes Unilaterally
 

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Should bipartisan talks stall, the Senate majority leader is exploring trying to use budget reconciliation to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants.

Should bipartisan talks stall, the Senate majority leader is exploring trying to use budget reconciliation to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants.

Mr. Biden’s immigration plan would provide a pathway to citizenship for an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, and increase diversity visas and border-security funding. But, conceding the long odds of achieving such extensive changes, lawmakers are focusing on cobbling together a package of smaller bills that would legalize about eight million or fewer undocumented immigrants.

They include House-passed legislation to grant legal status to people brought to the United States as children, known as Dreamers; immigrants who were granted Temporary Protected Status for humanitarian reasons; and close to one million farmworkers.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi last month endorsed the idea of using reconciliation to push through an immigration measure, citing the “budget impacts of immigration in our country.” Senator Patty Murray of Washington, the No. 3 Democrat, came out in favor of the approach last week.

Still, the strategy carries risks and is far from guaranteed to succeed.

Republicans involved in the talks warn that before Congress can act to address undocumented immigrants, it must address the large influx of migrants across the southwestern border. In March, border agents encountered nearly 19,000 children at the border — the largest number recorded in a single month — most of them fleeing poverty and violence in Central America, though the numbers are dropping.

“Before we can do anything meaningful on immigration, we’re going to have to deal with the current crisis at the border,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, who has been involved in the bipartisan talks. “I don’t think the public is going to tolerate us ignoring this crisis, and it’s just going to get worse unless we deal with it.”

As for moving Mr. Biden’s immigration agenda through reconciliation, he said: “I think they’re dreaming; I don’t think the parliamentarian will allow that. That’s not really the purpose of reconciliation.”

To pull it off, Democrats would have to grapple with strict budget rules that limit what can be done under reconciliation. They require that any policy change included must have a budgetary impact that is more than merely incidental. Other measures favored by liberal activists, such a federal minimum-wage increase to $15 per hour, have been nixed from a reconciliation package by the Senate parliamentarian, the ultimate arbiter of the rules, for failing to meet that bar.

The parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough, recently said that the reconciliation process could be used at least once more during this fiscal year. That ruling was widely seen as paving the way for Democrats to advance Mr. Biden’s infrastructure bill using the fast-track process. It also set progressive activists to thinking about what else they could push through, including measures to address climate change, expand Medicare and revamp the immigration system.

A team of immigration activists and researchers as well as congressional aides is exploring the question, digging into the best way to present their case to Ms. MacDonough, who declined to comment for this article. They have found past precedents, including one from 2005, in which changes to immigration policy were allowed as part of a budget-reconciliation package, and they are tallying up the budgetary effects of the immigration proposals — which total in the tens of billions.

Researchers have dredged up supportive quotes from Republicans from 2005, when they won signoff for including a measure to recapture unused visas for high-skilled workers in a reconciliation package. Mr. Cornyn praised the move at the time as a way to “keep jobs here in America, rather than export them to places like India and China.”

The pro-immigration group FWD.us hired Kevin Kayes, a former assistant Senate parliamentarian, to help hone the procedural argument in favor of allowing the maneuver this year.

“Those provisions are the precedent for us,” said Kerri Talbot, the deputy director of the Immigration Hub. “A lot of things we’re trying to do now relate to what was approved in 2005.”

Ms. Talbot says she believes the total budget impact of the immigration bills under consideration is high enough to meet the reconciliation standard.

“We’re definitely in the tens of billions. We think we pass that test,” she said.

The estimated cost of the House-passed legalization measures is about $40 billion over 10 years.

Immigration advocates are also pushing for an expedited pathway to citizenship for the more than five million unauthorized immigrants who are essential workers, which is likely to carry an even higher budget impact on health care benefits, Medicaid spending and tax credits.

Twenty-two Democrats, including four senators, recently wrote a letter to Mr. Biden urging him to include an immigration overhaul in his infrastructure package. Many are worried that they will lose control of Congress in the 2022 midterm elections, and fearful that the Supreme Court will strike down former President Barack Obama’s protections for Dreamers.

“We ought to take this opportunity, this term, to finally do what the American people want us to do, which is to pass immigration reform,” Representative Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas and one of the letter’s authors, said in an interview. “I don’t think the Republicans should be able to run the clock out on this term before we pass meaningful immigration reform through the Senate.”

Yet not all Democrats are likely to support a unilateral approach. Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Democrat of Arizona, is co-sponsoring legislation with Mr. Cornyn to respond to the increase in migrants at the southern border by funding four regional processing centers in high-traffic Border Patrol sectors and improving the administration’s capacity to deal with such influxes.

For now, Senator Richard J. Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat who has for years pushed for a path to citizenship for the Dreamers, said that he was focused on passing a bipartisan immigration bill, and that Mr. Schumer had encouraged him to work to reach a deal with Republicans.

“We agree on a bipartisan basis we’ve got to reform the system,” Mr. Durbin said.

Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, another of the 15 senators involved in the immigration talks, said he believed that trying to use the reconciliation process for immigration reform would be a “disaster.”

But Mr. Tillis said he thought a bipartisan deal that couples a path to citizenship for the Dreamers with a greater investment in border security was still possible and perhaps getting closer.

“The crisis at the border is undisputable — even the president admits that now — so if we can work on that, and then work on some of the path options that I’ve supported in the past, I’m guardedly optimistic,” he said.

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Yeah not happening. No way they attach us to BR.

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WASHINGTON — Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the majority leader, is quietly considering trying to use a fast-track budget maneuver to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants should bipartisan talks on providing a pathway to citizenship fall apart.

Mr. Schumer has privately told members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus in recent weeks that he is “actively exploring” whether it would be possible to attach a broad revision of immigration laws to President Biden’s infrastructure plan and pass it through a process known as budget reconciliation, according to two people briefed on his comments.

The move would allow the measures to pass the evenly divided Senate with a simple majority of 51 votes, shielding them from a filibuster and the 60-vote threshold for moving past one, which would otherwise require at least 10 Republican votes.

The strategy is part of a backup plan Mr. Schumer has lined up in the event that talks among 15 senators in both parties fail to yield a compromise. As the negotiations drag on with little agreement in sight, proponents are growing increasingly worried that Democrats may squander a rare opportunity to legalize broad swaths of the undocumented population while their party controls both chambers of Congress and the White House.

“Democrats must act,” says Sergio Gonzales, the director of the Immigration Hub, which pushes for a pro-immigrant agenda in Congress. “Now is the time. This year is the time. We must have citizenship this year.”

Mr. Biden’s immigration plan would provide a pathway to citizenship for an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, and increase diversity visas and border-security funding. But, conceding the long odds of achieving such extensive changes, lawmakers are focusing on cobbling together a package of smaller bills that would legalize about eight million or fewer undocumented immigrants.

They include House-passed legislation to grant legal status to people brought to the United States as children, known as Dreamers; immigrants who were granted Temporary Protected Status for humanitarian reasons; and close to one million farmworkers.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi last month endorsed the idea of using reconciliation to push through an immigration measure, citing the “budget impacts of immigration in our country.” Senator Patty Murray of Washington, the No. 3 Democrat, came out in favor of the approach last week.

Still, the strategy carries risks and is far from guaranteed to succeed.

Republicans involved in the talks warn that before Congress can act to address undocumented immigrants, it must address the large influx of migrants across the southwestern border. In March, border agents encountered nearly 19,000 children at the border — the largest number recorded in a single month — most of them fleeing poverty and violence in Central America, though the numbers are dropping.

“Before we can do anything meaningful on immigration, we’re going to have to deal with the current crisis at the border,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, who has been involved in the bipartisan talks. “I don’t think the public is going to tolerate us ignoring this crisis, and it’s just going to get worse unless we deal with it.”

As for moving Mr. Biden’s immigration agenda through reconciliation, he said: “I think they’re dreaming; I don’t think the parliamentarian will allow that. That’s not really the purpose of reconciliation.”

To pull it off, Democrats would have to grapple with strict budget rules that limit what can be done under reconciliation. They require that any policy change included must have a budgetary impact that is more than merely incidental. Other measures favored by liberal activists, such a federal minimum-wage increase to $15 per hour, have been nixed from a reconciliation package by the Senate parliamentarian, the ultimate arbiter of the rules, for failing to meet that bar.

The parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough, recently said that the reconciliation process could be used at least once more during this fiscal year. That ruling was widely seen as paving the way for Democrats to advance Mr. Biden’s infrastructure bill using the fast-track process. It also set progressive activists to thinking about what else they could push through, including measures to address climate change, expand Medicare and revamp the immigration system.

A team of immigration activists and researchers as well as congressional aides is exploring the question, digging into the best way to present their case to Ms. MacDonough, who declined to comment for this article. They have found past precedents, including one from 2005, in which changes to immigration policy were allowed as part of a budget-reconciliation package, and they are tallying up the budgetary effects of the immigration proposals — which total in the tens of billions.

Researchers have dredged up supportive quotes from Republicans from 2005, when they won signoff for including a measure to recapture unused visas for high-skilled workers in a reconciliation package. Mr. Cornyn praised the move at the time as a way to “keep jobs here in America, rather than export them to places like India and China.”

The pro-immigration group FWD.us hired Kevin Kayes, a former assistant Senate parliamentarian, to help hone the procedural argument in favor of allowing the maneuver this year.

“Those provisions are the precedent for us,” said Kerri Talbot, the deputy director of the Immigration Hub. “A lot of things we’re trying to do now relate to what was approved in 2005.”

Ms. Talbot says she believes the total budget impact of the immigration bills under consideration is high enough to meet the reconciliation standard.

“We’re definitely in the tens of billions. We think we pass that test,” she said.

The estimated cost of the House-passed legalization measures is about $40 billion over 10 years.

Immigration advocates are also pushing for an expedited pathway to citizenship for the more than five million unauthorized immigrants who are essential workers, which is likely to carry an even higher budget impact on health care benefits, Medicaid spending and tax credits.

Twenty-two Democrats, including four senators, recently wrote a letter to Mr. Biden urging him to include an immigration overhaul in his infrastructure package. Many are worried that they will lose control of Congress in the 2022 midterm elections, and fearful that the Supreme Court will strike down former President Barack Obama’s protections for Dreamers.

“We ought to take this opportunity, this term, to finally do what the American people want us to do, which is to pass immigration reform,” Representative Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas and one of the letter’s authors, said in an interview. “I don’t think the Republicans should be able to run the clock out on this term before we pass meaningful immigration reform through the Senate.”

Yet not all Democrats are likely to support a unilateral approach. Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Democrat of Arizona, is co-sponsoring legislation with Mr. Cornyn to respond to the increase in migrants at the southern border by funding four regional processing centers in high-traffic Border Patrol sectors and improving the administration’s capacity to deal with such influxes.

For now, Senator Richard J. Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat who has for years pushed for a path to citizenship for the Dreamers, said that he was focused on passing a bipartisan immigration bill, and that Mr. Schumer had encouraged him to work to reach a deal with Republicans.

“We agree on a bipartisan basis we’ve got to reform the system,” Mr. Durbin said.

Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, another of the 15 senators involved in the immigration talks, said he believed that trying to use the reconciliation process for immigration reform would be a “disaster.”

But Mr. Tillis said he thought a bipartisan deal that couples a path to citizenship for the Dreamers with a greater investment in border security was still possible and perhaps getting closer.

“The crisis at the border is undisputable — even the president admits that now — so if we can work on that, and then work on some of the path options that I’ve supported in the past, I’m guardedly optimistic,” he said.

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for Dreamers or at least "Essential Workers" its plausible.

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Schumer and make immigration changes “unilaterally”? LMFAO stop dreaming. He can’t unilaterally wipe his a**...

The only way DA passes is by 60 votes....no other way.

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Schumer kind of weak...hate that bitch McConnell but at least he got balls to pass shit that R's wanted and he kept his side in line.

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Shh!! You're gonna make him angry! :razz:

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If they were serious about this, they would have already asked the parliamentarian if they could do it. They want to keep that question open so they can get $$$ from immigration orgs.

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We’ll see

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The only good thing about this article is the quotes from the GOP Senators expressing their support for DACA fix +border security.

There's a reason why most of them have been very tight lip.

They want to release any deal and vote on it asap so the Right wing can't attack and sink it.

10 GOP Senators!

And no, the Parliamentarian will not allow such twisted use of the reconciliation process.

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The reconciliation process is not a way around the 60 vote requirements on non budgetary matters.

Immigration is a complex issue and requires bipartisanship.

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Chucky and Nancy using any shortcuts like the reconciliation method to provide much needed relief for Dreamers and farmworkers....???

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Chucky doesnt have the balls to even try going through reconciliation. If it was McConnell the shit be done and passed. Say what you want about the turtle but he gets shit done. I have no idea how and why such a inept piece of shit like Schumer is still there. Nancy’s balls are way bigger than stupid Chucky Schumer.

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Dreamer issue is way too big for Demys to let go.....It is the vote getter. They will try their best not to get anything done as long as they can...

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Than they will continue to lose votes (Mostly Hispanic).

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No doubt Republicans don't give a crap about DACA.

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they can on Dreamers that are “Essential Workers” through another Covid-19 budget bill.

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Somebody hand this guy a medal for announcing the surprise of the century....

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anybody knows what's taking Judge Hanen so long to announce his decision? He's had like a couple years to figure it out.

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No one should put faith in politicians fixing your situation. Come up with a Plan B and go through with it if you are tired of waiting. Have no faith in congress, especially the R's!


He's being a pussy because he knows there will be huge backlash if he goes through with it.

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...n-111359557561


Well said Rachel

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She makes a lot of sense! (MSNBC). There's no point in reaching out across the aisle. Republicans have no good faith intentions to make bipartisan negotiations and deals happen. They're deadbeat obstructionists.

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So, what’s the hold up with passing something? Didn’t they say something would be passed in April? I thought Durban and Graham were on it again.

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Outside of a select few, I really don't see either side making good-faith deals in recent years. They try to push what going to get the most donations and not what actually has a chance to become law. I believe this issue is too profitable for most to actually try to resolve.

We give a lot of shit to the GOP but honestly, it's also the Dems. Both sides view the fight as more profitable than getting a solution.

With that said I think Durbin is legit in his desire to help dreamers, he has been at it for 20 years. I still hold more hope in his efforts than BR.

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My thinking exactly. These dudes take their sweet ass time.

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Rachel is a total partisan hack.

Had peddled conspiracy theories on MS"DNC"

Leftist fake news fake outrage machine

MSNBCs propaganda narrative: everything is racist and race is all we look at when reporting news. On and also Trump was a Russian spy :)

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Yeah remember it's always negotiations to start negotiations.

Then more negotiations. Stumbles along the way.

I think the most tight lipped they are about their progress the better.

No leaks. Biden will sign anything.

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You guys are gonna be saying the exact same thing when you are 55 year old Dreamer kids still without a GC.

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If I want you as my life coach, I’ll tell you.

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Donnie was literally handing off polling data to Russian intelligence and coordinating the DNC hack handoff to wikileaks thru Stone

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What's ur proof? Which investigation confirmed all those?

The DNC got hacked independently of Trump.

The Democrats just got mad cause all their dirt was out in the open for Americans to see how corrupt they are even with their own primaries.

Trump wasn't impeached on collusion. I wonder why?

Cause CNN and MSNBC were peddling the conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian spy.

2016 president elections were secure. Did the Democrats accept them? No. For 4 years they kept saying Trump was illegitimate when he had been elected duly and legally by 50 states.

For Democrats to say that elections can't be rigged or there be fraud (mail in ballots) in 2016 but 2020 you get banned for saying 2020 election wasn't fair or legitimate in some states.

MS"DNC only cares about race baiting and Trump hate. They aren't a real news.

Next!!!

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Wtf? It sounds like you only watch Fox News and read your daddy donalds blog. Did you not read any of the mueller report? It really sounds like you did not. Also, democrats ran on donald being an illegitimate because of his cooperation with the Russians and how dirty it was that he won, NOT because of any voter fraud.

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You don't say it when it really needs to be said....lmfao...

This is definitely Dead on Arrival...Schumy ain't gon do shit "unilaterally" believe me.

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Agreed. No doubt whatsoever DONNY is the WORST president is US history. Definitely an incompetent the likes no one has ever seen before GUARANTEED.

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He’s not going to do anything regardless

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The median household income rose under his administration.

Three historic Supreme Court appointments giving pro life cause an ally.

Other countries were told to stop using the USA to find NGOs that are virulently against the USA (UN is mainly funded by us dollars and still the UN is anti Israel and USA while literal dictatorships are part of UN Human "Rights" council thingy)

Trump was the first President in a long time that kept his promises. May not have worked to build a bigger coalition to win though.

Most people voted for Trump because he was the only alternative to Democrats and their big spender agenda.

Inflation is up.

You can't ignore basic economic principles

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Leader Schumer is actually undermining bipartisan talks by sending these signals.

I hope it's just his way of paying lip service to AOC and the socialist squad, and not really his end game cause the Parliamentarian will absolutely use her power to swat it down. No question about it.

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A man who never knelt like Joe Biden did.

Weak old Joe. Hanging with Left wingers and turning a blind eye to the violence of BLM.

Portland is still under constant attacks. The media still won't report.

I'd take Trump over weak ass Biden and his anti cop Left. Cops saved me from domestic abuse.

Aside from immigration, I think Republicans are much better at creative pro economic growth which lifts all groups of people.

I just can't believe most of you still fall for CNN and MSNBC news. They lied and lied about Trump, the whole Russian stuff, then made up stories about him knowing about bounties on soldiers by Russia.

Turns out it was all not verified and the CIA came out saying it was not a true story.

Lies lies lies. I read all points of view. That's why I can see the lies the media tells us every day, including Fox News.

There's no such thing as news anymore. It's all biased, mostly for Dems/Liberals

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Read the Mueller report
read the Stone indictments
read the Senate report on Mueller's findings
read the federal judge's findings this week on Barr's corrupt reinterpretation of Mueller's findings