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bama_kay 06-07-2021 12:30 PM

Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/polit...ase/index.html

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Washington (CNN)The Supreme Court held on Monday that the government can block non-citizens who are in the US under a program that temporarily protects them from deportation in certain situations from applying for a green card if they entered the country unlawfully.

Justice Elena Kagan wrote for a unanimous court.
"Today's decision is not just a setback for those immigrants currently in Temporary Protected Status who did not enter the United States lawfully; it also reinforces the barriers that Dreamers would face until and unless Congress provides a statutory path to some kind of permanent lawful status," said Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law.

"The Executive Branch may have some authority to confer forms of temporary legal status on those who crossed the border without permission, but the Supreme Court today reinforced, however indirectly, that only Congress can provide a permanent answer," he added.
The case concerns Jose Sanchez and Sonia Gonzales, a New Jersey couple who came to the US illegally in 1997 and 1998 and now have four children. Their youngest was born in the US and is a citizen.
Following a series of earthquakes in El Salvador in 2001, they applied for and received Temporary Protected Status, which shields foreign nationals present in the US from removal if they have been subject to armed conflicts or environmental disasters in their homeland. In 2014, the couple sought to apply to "adjust" their status to become lawful permanent residents and apply for a green card.

The US Citizenship and Immigration Services denied their application, noting that they were ineligible to apply because they had not entered the country legally and never been formally admitted to the US.
The case confronted two sections of immigration law: one that says that those in TPS should be considered as "maintaining lawful status," and another that says in order to adjust status, an individual in TPS must have been admitted lawfully.
Kagan said that the conferral of TPS status does not make an unlawful entrant like Sanchez eligible for a green card.

Kagan said that there was "no dispute" that Sanchez entered the US "unlawfully, without inspection." She said that a "straightforward" application of immigration law supports the government's decision to deny him status as a lawful permanent resident because he was not lawfully admitted.
"He therefore cannot become a permanent resident of this country," Kagan concluded.
Currently, there are about 400,000 people with TPS status in the country and 85,000 have managed to adjust status.

Although a district court ruled in favor of the couple, an appeals court reversed. It held that TPS does not "constitute an admission."
In court, Amy M. Saharia, a lawyer for Jose and Sonia Gonzales, argued that having been admitted is "inherent" in the TPS status. But Michael R. Huston, assistant to the US solicitor general, drew a line between status and admission, arguing against the couple.
The government said that while Congress had made some individuals eligible to adjust their status if they met certain criteria and had a sponsor, it was not available to those who had not made a lawful entry. Huston said the government had "reasonably determined" that Congress did not "establish TPS as a special pathway to permanent residents for non-citizens who are already barred from that privilege because of pre-TPS conduct."

He urged the court to defer to the position taken by the agency in the case and he noted that there are "tens of thousands" of TPS holders who have adjusted their status, but they had been lawfully admitted as a student or an au pair or a temporary worker. He said that TPS holders know that it is a temporary form of relief from removal and that it "will not last forever." At an early point in the case, the Trump administration had argued that those in the TPS program could never try to get green cards. The Biden administration's position leaves open the opportunity for the government to change its mind.

lachupacabra 06-07-2021 01:07 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
so, just do AP?

beingoflight 06-07-2021 01:08 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
Wouldn't AP clear the EWI for us??

Besides that, LMFAOOOOOOOOO good job NPCs, this is what uncle Joe is getting u, but hey, orange man bad?

Got_Daca 06-07-2021 01:59 PM

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Nothing new here really

Outsider626 06-07-2021 02:32 PM

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DACA next.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1538...itemid=8724717

thedelight21 06-07-2021 02:33 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 760665)
Wouldn't AP clear the EWI for us??

Besides that, LMFAOOOOOOOOO good job NPCs, this is what uncle Joe is getting u, but hey, orange man bad?

I thought before Trump left office that AP didn’t clear EWI anymore, or did that change under Biden?

trac3rt 06-07-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
I thought that had always been the case, that you had to be "inspected" into the US to be able to AOS.

Swim19 06-07-2021 06:04 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 760665)
Wouldn't AP clear the EWI for us??

Besides that, LMFAOOOOOOOOO good job NPCs, this is what uncle Joe is getting u, but hey, orange man bad?

This was a Supreme Court ruling, so Biden had nothing to do with it. Trump making the court more conservative did not help matters.

Swim19 06-07-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thedelight21 (Post 760670)
I thought before Trump left office that AP didn’t clear EWI anymore, or did that change under Biden?

According to the article, a couple was trying to AOS and argued that they should be considered 'inspected' with TPS. Supreme Court ruled against them.

vft1008 06-07-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 760676)
This was a Supreme Court ruling, so Biden had nothing to do with it. Trump making the court more conservative did not help matters.

Anything to bring up Trump first and then make him out to be the hero for Dreamers.

BoL spotted in FL:

https://i.imgur.com/4LNs7hA.jpg?1

JayR9 06-07-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 760676)
This was a Supreme Court ruling, so Biden had nothing to do with it. Trump making the court more conservative did not help matters.

Your a better person than me, Swim. I saw that comment and I couldn't think of anything but trolling.

JayR9 06-07-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 760665)
Wouldn't AP clear the EWI for us??

Besides that, LMFAOOOOOOOOO good job NPCs, this is what uncle Joe is getting u, but hey, orange man bad?

Tell me you never pass US Government in high school without telling me you never pass US Gov in HS.

vft1008 06-07-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 760681)
Tell me you never pass US Government in high school without telling me you never pass US Gov in HS.

He doesn't care about being educated, remember? He only cares about power over people he views as inferior and money... just like a true republican.

justjohnjustice1988 06-07-2021 10:16 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
This case was a big duh.

Of course TPS is not meant to be a permanent status not does it change how you entered originally. Only Congress can pass a law to make TPS holders eligible for adjustment of status to permanent resident.

Total waste of attorneys fees.

Unanimous decision. Watch the fake news blame it on Trump.

Strike down DACA already and force Congress to act!

Outsider626 06-07-2021 11:55 PM

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WTF Hanen is waiting for?

vft1008 06-08-2021 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 760690)
WTF Hanen is waiting for?

He's waiting for the Dreamer kids to reach 45 or 50 years old.

Imthexman 06-08-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 760690)
WTF Hanen is waiting for?

He is not going to rule until after the next congress takes
over, he knows that if he kills daca now Schumer will hold a vote on the DA, Hanen will say that the current bill that the house passed paused his ruling.

frbc13 06-08-2021 10:12 AM

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Fulfill your sick pleasure Judge Hanen, destroy our lives! Make us suffer! Drink our tears!!!

beingoflight 06-08-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 760683)
He doesn't care about being educated, remember? He only cares about power over people he views as inferior and money... just like a true republican.

Spoken like a true NPC immediately assuming party affiliation just for not liking or being a blind fanboy of ur favorite character.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-08-2021 07:27 PM

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Talks shit about Democrats
Is pro trump

- bingo is definitely a Republican. Or are you a RepubliCANT lol

Smooth 06-09-2021 11:01 PM

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Kamala to Guatemalans: “don’t come.”

Some morons on here: Democrats are great people. They love immigrants. How dare you criticize them!!!!

Lmfaoooo

2Face 06-14-2021 09:44 AM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760721)
Kamala to Guatemalans: “don’t come.”

Some morons on here: Democrats are great people. They love immigrants. How dare you criticize them!!!!

Lmfaoooo

The same mofos here in the year 2050...."ItS aLl TrUmP's FaUlT!" lmfaooo...

Outsider626 06-14-2021 12:53 PM

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Those who truly want to help will always find a way.

2MoreYears 06-14-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 760800)
Those who truly want to help will always find a way.

Where there's a will there's a way!

JavierHTx 06-14-2021 02:34 PM

Re: Supreme Court rules against immigrants in temporary status seeking green cards
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760721)
Kamala to Guatemalans: “don’t come.”

Some morons on here: Democrats are great people. They love immigrants. How dare you criticize them!!!!

Lmfaoooo

What is she supposed to say??

“Come and bring all your relatives! We’re open”

Smooth 06-14-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 760803)
What is she supposed to say??

“Come and bring all your relatives! We’re open”

People have legal right to show up at border and seek asylum. She said the US would send them back upon reaching the border.

Also, simply saying “don’t come” is callous. She could have framed it completely different. Such as, “ help us help you. continual illegal immigration hurts the chances of us realizing immigration reform, which would make legal immigration more accessible to all of you.” Idk something like that.

vft1008 06-14-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760804)
People have legal right to show up at border and seek asylum. She said the US would send them back upon reaching the border.

Also, simply saying “don’t come” is callous. She could have framed it completely different. Such as, “ help us help you. continual illegal immigration hurts the chances of us realizing immigration reform, which would make legal immigration more accessible to all of you.” Idk something like that.

Who cares!? Anything she said or how she said it would not change the big picture or our predicament. Words (AKA hot gas) do nothing when it comes to immigration.

Smooth 06-14-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 760806)
Who cares!? Anything she said or how she said it would not change the big picture or our predicament. Words (AKA hot gas) do nothing when it comes to immigration.

White guy says it. Holy shit what a racist piece of crap.

Woman of color says it. Who cares.

Trump essentially used very similar words, and that only made people come. Her rhetoric won’t help either.

Outsider626 06-14-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 760802)
Where there's a will there's a way!

https://media.tenor.com/images/a0d65...31ac/tenor.gif

Smooth 06-14-2021 05:11 PM

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Kamaga

vft1008 06-14-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760808)
White guy says it. Holy shit what a racist piece of crap.

Woman of color says it. Who cares.

Trump essentially used very similar words, and that only made people come. Her rhetoric won’t help either.

Except Trump used words AND took actions that affected immigration negatively. Giving power to Miller, having Sessions end DACA, etc. etc. etc. It's not the words, it's the actions, Smoothie.

Smooth 06-14-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 760811)
Except Trump used words AND took actions that affected immigration negatively. Giving power to Miller, having Sessions end DACA, etc. etc. etc. It's not the words, it's the actions, Smoothie.

Kamaga lover.

Smooth 06-14-2021 06:06 PM

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Actions and words matter.

vft1008 06-14-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760812)
Kamaga lover.

Deflect. Couldn't reply with anything of substance.

You're so creative coming up with that. Teach me your ways. I'm so jealous of you. You have a lot of traits I wish I could have.

vft1008 06-14-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760813)
Actions and words matter.

Together, sure.
Words alone... not really. Words are hot gas. Ask Durbin how much progress has been made after... what... 20 years' worth of him giving speeches about Dreamers and providing Dreamer bios using enlarged portraits of said Dreamers. LOL, his words and speeches matter alright! Can't wait for the next round! He's changing lives with those speeches!

Hey, maybe he can put your photo up there next!

hDreamer1988 06-14-2021 08:05 PM

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The US is not in a good position right now and adding more border crossings will not help. I don't see anything wrong with what she said.

Biden's admin should have been sending this messaging earlier before lifting the borders covid restriction. The border situation should have been foreseen from the get go and a better method should have put in place from the start.

All momentum for an immigration deal is dead and Dems will most likely lose the house.


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