Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) issued a statement on Wednesday saying he has "serious concerns" about the size of Democrats' $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation package, calling it "simply irresponsible" to continue spending at such high levels.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer responded to Manchin's concerns at a press conference on Tuesday, saying: "Look, there are some in my caucus who might believe it’s too much, there are some in my caucus who believe it’s too little."

"I can tell you this on reconciliation: One, we are going to all come together to get something done. And two, we’ll have every part of the Biden plan in a big, bold, robust way."

Why it matters: Senate Democrats cannot lose a single vote in order to pass President Biden's sweeping economic plan via reconciliation, a process that only requires 50 votes rather than the usual 60 to overcome a filibuster.

Manchin and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), another Democratic moderate, both voted to open debate on the budget resolution early Wednesday morning. But both have signaled doubts about the size of the package.

Moderates in the House, where Democrats have a majority of just three votes, have also expressed serious concerns — setting up a high-stakes clash with progressives who have no interest in paring down the size of the bill.

What to watch: Schumer said that Senate committee chairs will work intensely over the next few weeks with the goal of having a reconciliation bill — presumably one that satisfies the concerns of both moderates and progressives — completed by Sept. 15.

https://www.axios.com/manchin-budget...31aae8dd4.html

Re: Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

These two idiots probably thrive on seeing their stupid names plastered everywhere. It probably gives them some sort of sick satisfaction, to hell with whoever they're fucking over.

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And there it is...

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cut $500B or $1T and pass it.

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Told y'all.

Re: Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

He didn't say he wasn't voting for it, just that he's 'concerned'. And if he really wanted to stop the bill, he could have voted no yesterday. Let's see how it plays out.

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I agree with Swim. Sinema and Manchin could have stopped any progress in yesterday's vote.

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Pelosi said she is not bringing infrastructure without reconciliation for a vote.

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Obviously because she knows that without bundling them up reconciliation bill will not pass.

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Re: Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

It is not like WV pays significant fed taxes

He is just tripping

Re: Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

damn, bro. you hella turnt up.

im optimistic but atleast be grounded. lol

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meanwhile:

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...utiful-tax-cut
Secret IRS Files Reveal How Much the Ultrawealthy Gained by Shaping Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Tax Cut”

Re: Manchin says he has "serious concerns" with $3.5 trillion spending bill
 

just give extra shit to WV and AZ behind closed doors and those 2 will be on board

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WV is net taker when it comes to fed taxes

Grounded enough?

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This is political theatre. At the end of the day the party needs to get Biden some legislative wins they can campaign on in 2022. This is a way for them to appear like they will buck their party and appeal to independent and republican voters. I think Manchin has it the worst being form a Trump state, but he’s an outlier as he is always voted back in. He has to keep playing that role and Sinema is drawing from his playbook.

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I mean they aren't wrong $3.5 T is A LOT! As a someone who pays a teacher's salary in taxes, this is concerning

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3.5 is NOT enough!!!!!

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The point is to tax the rich not someone on a teacher's salary.

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hes going to fuck us. I know it

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No you don't

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Honestly he can do the Susan Collins routine all he wants, he can whine and complain about the bill all he wants but if he holds his nose and votes yea in the end he's good enough for me.

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in all honesty, what do you think will happen? for us atleast..

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They'll negotiate a bunch about the number, maybe knock it down a bit, but if parliamentarian okays the immigration provision then the two problem children will hold their noses and vote for it. Neither of them came out against the immigration provision, only about the overall cost of the bill.

They know that they need legislative victories or the midterms will be a huge bloodbath. They can actually hold through the midterms just because the senate map doesn't look all that awful - Democrats are defending shaky seats in AZ and GA, meanwhile Republicans are defending WI, PA, OH, FL, and NC. Come midterms they need a list of "Here's all the shit we managed to do", you can only run on promises if you're the minority.

Also Breyer needs to fucking retire and get replaced because the turtle won't let Biden appoint a replacement.