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Copper 10-05-2021 02:33 PM
Schumer Criticizes Immigrant Activists
 
This is the same guy that said “Dreamers can’t occupy the entire stage” . I can’t believe we actually trust this con.

Quote:
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said he objects to protesters who followed Sen. Kyrsten Sinema into an Arizona State University ladies' room to excoriate her for refusing to pass a $3.5 trillion social welfare spending package.

Schumer told ABC News in the Capitol on Monday he “gets protested all the time” and “started his career” protesting the Vietnam War.

But he criticized the protesters, who not only berated Sinema as she entered a stall and used the facilities but also recorded the incident to post on the internet.

“I understand and so feel for the immigrant community and what they are going through,” Schumer said. “But following someone into a bathroom and recording them, that’s over the line.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-line...203200311.html

Sorrybrah 10-05-2021 02:37 PM
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We're only the focus when it's re-election time. This man is sickening, how about he focus on rallying his caucus on the agenda that people voted them for.

VJB2 10-05-2021 02:45 PM
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I get we're all pissed and trust me, I hate that alcoholic Simena as much as the next person. But reality is, generally people will see it as a violation of privacy in the bathroom issue before they consider why the activists were there. They should have skipped on following her into the bathroom and waited for her outside.

On a plane, airport, thrift shop, lesbian bar, Wigs R Us shop, sure... but the bathroom was a bit much.

Also, fuck off Schumer.

chopstix 10-05-2021 03:34 PM
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Dems are useless idiots .

PapiChulo 10-05-2021 03:38 PM
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what tf do they expect? Sinema hasn’t done any town halls or any interviews since she was elected 3 years ago!!! she doesnt meet her constituents but she shows up for corporate donations. she dont give af about her constituents.

hDreamer1988 10-05-2021 03:47 PM
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I feel these action actually turn public sentiment against us and we lose support. I am not sure how this kind of behavior helps? Is Sinema more likely to vote for immigration after this?

Chn 10-05-2021 03:52 PM
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Completely unacceptable. Whose support did they think they got from pulling those antics?

And you all really don’t realize AZ isn’t as blue as you think it is.

VJB2 10-05-2021 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 764805)
I feel these action actually turn public sentiment against us and we lose support. I am not sure how this kind of behavior helps? Is Sinema more likely to vote for immigration after this?
I'm not even sure she's said something about immigration in reconciliation. It's that real life troll Manchin who's now voiced against it.

Let's not forget who the actual villains are FIRST: the Parliamentarian, Schumer for not firing her, and then the rest of the "Ok, we tried" brigade.

If somehow immigration/DACA is successfully added by some miracle and Simena comes out against including it then I understand going after her.

Focus on the roadblocks as they come, not try to figure out the way over another possible one down the road.

Trust me, I am in no way defending Simena and stupid outfits, but I think we're losing focus and losing sympathy along the way.

ralsingh 10-05-2021 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chn (Post 764807)
Completely unacceptable. Whose support did they think they got from pulling those antics?

And you all really don’t realize AZ isn’t as blue as you think it is.
Exactly. Plus, more than Sinema / Manchin, the focus should be to overrule the Parliamentarian's OPINION.

At least there's still some pressure on for VP to overrule the parliamentarian and include immigration reform. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...ate-to-include

If Manchin (and Sinema) thinks that immigration is "too big" for reconciliation, then cut it and add a smaller provision (you know just the one that gives permanent residency to DACA lol).

tyler129 10-05-2021 04:33 PM
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I think it's official that Schumer doesn't stand with us

Smooth 10-05-2021 04:41 PM
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Fuck you Schumer.

Smooth 10-05-2021 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chn (Post 764807)
Completely unacceptable. Whose support did they think they got from pulling those antics?

And you all really don’t realize AZ isn’t as blue as you think it is.
There is something you fail to understand: we have all waited for years, and we keep getting played with or ignored. The activists behaved the way they did because of desperation and being played with. You just can’t sit back and have these fuckers bullshit you into thinking that there is nothing they can do and that Sinema cares when she obviously doesn’t. This is what fighting for socioeconomic justice is about, but Schumer doesn’t get it because he is a pussy.

VJB2 10-05-2021 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 764813)
There is something you fail to understand: we have all waited for years, and we keep getting played with or ignored. The activists behaved the way they did because of desperation and being played with. You just can’t sit back and have these fuckers bullshit you into thinking that there is nothing they can do and that Sinema cares when she obviously doesn’t. This is what fighting for socioeconomic justice is about, but Schumer doesn’t get it because he is a pussy.
We're all desperate. There is no excuse for following anyone into the bathroom on camera, I don't give a fuck who it is. None.

I'm glad the activist isn't "sitting back," but people have to understand how Republicans frame this: LOOK! AN ILLEGAL HARASSING A LAWMAKER FOR CITIZENSHIP IN THE BATHROOM! REEEEE.

It did not benefit us, no matter how anyone spins it.

Swim19 10-05-2021 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764814)
We're all desperate. There is no excuse for following anyone into the bathroom on camera, I don't give a fuck who it is. None.

I'm glad the activist isn't "sitting back," but people have to understand how Republicans frame this: LOOK! AN ILLEGAL HARASSING A LAWMAKER FOR CITIZENSHIP IN THE BATHROOM! REEEEE.

It did not benefit us, no matter how anyone spins it.
Eh...people who care were always anti-immigrant and if you are using this small one time action by a small group of people as an excuse to suddenly go against DACA/Immigration legislation then you were never really for it. I think the damage, if any, is minimal.

VJB2 10-05-2021 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 764815)
Eh...people who care were always anti-immigrant and if you are using this small one time action by a small group of people as an excuse to suddenly go against DACA/Immigration legislation then you were never really for it. I think the damage, if any, is minimal.
That's the point, we don't have room for damage. We're trying to pressure them into supporting us in the bill and the bill itself, not into further being bitter/angry/spiteful about what happened and voting with that in their minds.

Regardless, it's stupid to attack her in a bathroom. It's also moot to go after Drunkmena in regards to DACA when the Parliamentarian is sitting somewhere eating Jell-O.

For the record, fuck Sinema too.

Copper 10-05-2021 05:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764814)
We're all desperate. There is no excuse for following anyone into the bathroom on camera, I don't give a fuck who it is. None.

I'm glad the activist isn't "sitting back," but people have to understand how Republicans frame this: LOOK! AN ILLEGAL HARASSING A LAWMAKER FOR CITIZENSHIP IN THE BATHROOM! REEEEE.

It did not benefit us, no matter how anyone spins it.
This type of mentality has gotten us nowhere. We are not going to sit here and be sympathetic to these DO NOTHING politicians who have used us as political pawns. The time for action is NOW.

With that being said, no matter how outstanding we are. We are NEVER going to get the validation people are looking for from the Republican Party, so why even try? They are still going to make us look bad no matter what we do.

Smooth 10-05-2021 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 764817)
This type of mentality has gotten us nowhere. We are not going to sit here and be sympathetic to these DO NOTHING politicians who have used us as political pawns. The time for action is NOW.

With that being said, no matter how outstanding we are. We are NEVER going to get the validation people are looking for from the Republican Party, so why even try? They are still going to make us look bad no matter what we do.
^this.

Who fucking cares what others think. We always get bashed. Fuck validation. Stop being bonafide bitches and fight for yours.

Smooth 10-05-2021 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764814)
We're all desperate. There is no excuse for following anyone into the bathroom on camera, I don't give a fuck who it is. None.

I'm glad the activist isn't "sitting back," but people have to understand how Republicans frame this: LOOK! AN ILLEGAL HARASSING A LAWMAKER FOR CITIZENSHIP IN THE BATHROOM! REEEEE.

It did not benefit us, no matter how anyone spins it.
Hold on, currently harassing a few at the store.

VJB2 10-05-2021 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Copper (Post 764817)
This type of mentality has gotten us nowhere. We are not going to sit here and be sympathetic to these DO NOTHING politicians who have used us as political pawns. The time for action is NOW.

With that being said, no matter how outstanding we are. We are NEVER going to get the validation people are looking for from the Republican Party, so why even try? They are still going to make us look bad no matter what we do.
You must have glossed over this:

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On a plane, airport, thrift shop, lesbian bar, Wigs R Us shop, sure... but the bathroom was a bit much.
No one said they shouldn't approach her to demand some answers or sit around idle. I'm saying don't follow her to change her tampon and expect her to walk out holding a DREAMERS 4 LYFE sign.

And while I agree with the "who gives a fuck what Republicans think of us" mentality, the truth is: Democrats in charge do.. hence the tip-toeing around everything.

Where's THEIR action NOW?

Smooth 10-05-2021 05:57 PM
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Those were women in a bathroom yelling their positions. They weren’t jumping inside her bathroom stahl.

I actually love that they did that. She lied to people about fighting for progressive agenda. This is what she gets. She had it coming

Smooth 10-05-2021 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764820)
You must have glossed over this:



No one said they shouldn't approach her to demand some answers or sit around idle. I'm saying don't follow her to change her tampon and expect her to walk out holding a DREAMERS 4 LYFE sign.

And while I agree with the "who gives a fuck what Republicans think of us" mentality, the truth is: Democrats in charge do.. hence the tip-toeing around everything.

Where's THEIR action NOW?
Being docile isn’t going to help. Keep fucking shit up. Shauuuu!

Copper 10-05-2021 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764814)
We're all desperate. There is no excuse for following anyone into the bathroom on camera, I don't give a fuck who it is. None.

I'm glad the activist isn't "sitting back," but people have to understand how Republicans frame this: LOOK! AN ILLEGAL HARASSING A LAWMAKER FOR CITIZENSHIP IN THE BATHROOM! REEEEE.

It did not benefit us, no matter how anyone spins it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764820)
You must have glossed over this:



No one said they shouldn't approach her to demand some answers or sit around idle. I'm saying don't follow her to change her tampon and expect her to walk out holding a DREAMERS 4 LYFE sign.

And while I agree with the "who gives a fuck what Republicans think of us" mentality, the truth is: Democrats in charge do.. hence the tip-toeing around everything.

Where's THEIR action NOW?
Listen I get what your saying regarding the bathroom situation, but you also have to understand that emotions are running at an all time high because this was the closest we have ever gotten to legalization and the Democrats are screwing us over BIG TIME. And it's not just a Sinema thing. Maybe she became the easier target considering how destructive she's acting when it comes to passing legislation without Republican support.

But if there is no fix now when it comes to DACA, there surely won't be any fixes in 2022 when not one politician will want to even discuss our issues due to the fact that it will be an election year. In addition to the Democrats likely losing the House and the Senate that same year, we can kiss any chances of getting a fix until after 2024.

So if you consider what's a stake here, than your most likely to resonate on why she was followed all the way to the restroom. People are tired of waiting and games, and they want to know what their future will look like, and we cant blame them for that.

VJB2 10-05-2021 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 764823)
Listen I get what your saying regarding the bathroom situation, but you also have to understand that emotions are running at an all time high because this was the closest we have ever gotten to legalization and the Democrats are screwing us over BIG TIME. And it's not just a Sinema thing. Maybe she became the easier target considering how destructive she's acting when it comes to passing legislation without Republican support.

But if there is no fix now when it comes to DACA, there surely won't be any fixes in 2022 when not one politician will want to even discuss our issues due to the fact that it will be an election year. In addition to the Democrats likely losing the House and the Senate that same year, we can kiss any chances of getting a fix until after 2024.

So if you consider what's a stake here, than your most likely to resonate on why she was followed all the way to the restroom. People are tired of waiting and games, and they want to know what their future will look like, and we cant blame them for that.
I hear you loud and clear, and I'm in the same boat. I just think we're losing sight of our first obstacle (the Parliamentarian) and letting Schumer walk away from this by focusing efforts on this idiot. She comes next.

Anyway, fire the Parliamentarian first, Schumer. Didn't you hear the people? Start taking action NOW.

Copper 10-05-2021 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764824)
I hear you loud and clear, and I'm in the same boat. I just think we're losing sight of our first obstacle (the Parliamentarian) and letting Schumer walk away from this by focusing efforts on this idiot. She comes next.

Anyway, fire the Parliamentarian first, Schumer. Didn't you hear the people? Start taking action NOW.
You are definitely right when it comes to Schumer and bearing responsibility for what’s going on with this situation. Quite frankly I never trusted the guy ever since he sold us out and clearly saying that dreamers can’t occupy the entire stage.

Unfortunately Schumer and the Democratic Party for that matter have no interest in ever legalizing us. It’s chose your poison with both parties. One party completely hates us, and the other party won’t deport us but also don’t care enough about us to give us legalization.

vft1008 10-05-2021 06:59 PM
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Too bad this "follow her to the bathroom and confront and protest" energy:
1) is not more widespread and
2) was not proactive rather than retroactive.

Now that we know nothing is going to happen, we protest and take action? Where was this energy and action in January after Biden was sworn in and GA senate seats were settled? Oh, that's right, most of us we silently praying to LOLGod ("it's in his hands") wishing something good would happen and being keyboard warriors on FB, Twitter, Reddit, here, etc. making up bullshit analysis on how something could pass.

Only good vibes and morale during critical times, and then outrage after the fact. Pathetic. Too little too late. And as always... same shit, different toilet.


We should be just as upset at ourselves, the Dreamer community, as we are with the crummy ass politicians for our own inaction and letting UWD speak and deal for us. Imagine if we had leader Dreamers mobilize our Dreamer population and allies and confront and pressure the executive and legislative branches starting in January taking advantage of the fact that most of the stars had aligned for us. Things would certainly be different for us right now.
But by all means, continue to come back here and type away bitching and moaning about the crummy ass job UWD does representing you while your fingers get tired typing away.

Swim19 10-05-2021 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 764828)
Too bad this "follow her to the bathroom and confront and protest" energy:
1) is not more widespread and
2) was not proactive rather than retroactive.

Now that we know nothing is going to happen, we protest and take action? Where was this energy and action in January after Biden was sworn in and GA senate seats were settled? Oh, that's right, most of us we silently praying to LOLGod ("it's in his hands") wishing something good would happen and being keyboard warriors on FB, Twitter, Reddit, here, etc. making up bullshit analysis on how something could pass.

Only good vibes and morale during critical times, and then outrage after the fact. Pathetic. Too little too late. And as always... same shit, different toilet.



We should be just as upset at ourselves, the Dreamer community, as we are with the crummy ass politicians for our own inaction and letting UWD speak and deal for us. Imagine if we had leader Dreamers mobilize our Dreamer population and allies and confront and pressure the executive and legislative branches starting in January taking advantage of the fact that most of the stars had aligned for us. Things would certainly be different for us right now.
But by all means, continue to come back here and type away bitching and moaning about the crummy ass job UWD does representing you while your fingers get tired typing away.
If the stars had truly aligned we would have had a larger democrat majority in the Senate. No amount of action is going to magic away the Filibuster. Senators like Manchin can't be swayed by public sentiment and public pressure. It's all about money with them. The Dems bill would be awesome for his state, but does he care? Nope.

Smooth 10-05-2021 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764824)
I hear you loud and clear, and I'm in the same boat. I just think we're losing sight of our first obstacle (the Parliamentarian) and letting Schumer walk away from this by focusing efforts on this idiot. She comes next.

Anyway, fire the Parliamentarian first, Schumer. Didn't you hear the people? Start taking action NOW.
So are you saying we should start trolling Schumer in the restroom?

Who can tolerate seeing wrinkled culito?

dreamer12345 10-05-2021 07:12 PM
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public bathroom, #DealWithIt.

Also, not like you'll be acknowledged as human if you try civility:

Smooth 10-05-2021 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 764832)
public bathroom, #DealWithIt.

Also, not like you'll be acknowledged as human if you try civility:
This.

PapiChulo 10-05-2021 07:25 PM
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you can always humiliate elected officials in public.

it’s always morally correct.

PapiChulo 10-05-2021 07:28 PM
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Sinema had this coming. she turned her back on the constituents that got her elected in the first place.

hell, she doesn’t even had a town hall or done interviews since her election 3 years ago, so how do you expect her constituents to reach out to her? she’s a fraud, bro.

Smooth 10-05-2021 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 764835)
Sinema had this coming. she turned her back on the constituents that got her elected in the first place.

hell, she doesn’t even had a town hall or done interviews since her election 3 years ago, so how do you expect her constituents to reach out to her? she’s a fraud, bro.
Dude, the way she ignores the dreamer on the airplane. You just want to slap the shit out of her. What a piece if shit.

lurkingpro 10-08-2021 02:49 PM
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that fucker went to the hide in the bathroom so she could escape the confrontation, how awful for her to face a minor inconvenience of a few minutes, not like we have live in turmoil thanks to people like her for decades...hope she can heal from this.

Demise 10-09-2021 07:07 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/F2rwYd0.png

JayR9 10-09-2021 12:40 PM
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So we fucked or what?

frbc13 10-09-2021 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 764932)
So we fucked or what?
Hell yeah

leo86 10-09-2021 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 764797)
This is the same guy that said “Dreamers can’t occupy the entire stage” . I can’t believe we actually trust this con.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-line...203200311.html


Google "Sister Soljah moment" - that's what they're doing to us

JayR9 10-09-2021 03:37 PM
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Forever Fucked


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