Federal appeals court hears arguments on future of DACA
 

A federal appeals court in New Orleans heard arguments Wednesday on the legality of the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, setting up another high-stakes legal clash over immigration that could impact hundreds of thousands of people.

DACA, created in 2012, was intended to provide temporary reprieve to undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, a group often described as "Dreamers." Many of those are now adults.

There are more than 611,000 immigrants enrolled in the program, according to US Citizenship and Immigration Services. The case before the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals Wednesday could impact hundreds of thousands of immigrants who rely on the program as well as those who might benefit.



The three-judge panel, two of whom are appointees of former President Donald Trump, occasionally chimed in during the hearing, largely focusing on the states' standing. Texas -- in its lawsuit originally brought along with Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, South Carolina and West Virginia -- argues that the program placed an undue burden on the states and amounted to executive overreach.

Judd Stone, who argued on behalf of Texas, suggested that at least some DACA recipients would leave the country without the program.

A decade since the program was established, DACA is still one of the only signs of potential relief for undocumented immigrants looking to remain and work in the US -- and it remains in legal limbo.

Justice Department attorney Brian Boynton stressed the deep ties DACA beneficiaries have in the United States. "The prospect that they'd voluntarily leave the country is quite speculative," Boynton argued.

The Center for American Progress estimated last year that more than 1.3 million people in the United States live with a DACA recipient.

"DACA recipients have maximized their opportunity in these last 10 years," Maria Gabriela "Gaby" Pacheco, TheDream.US director of advocacy, development and communications, told reporters last week, citing, for example, recipients getting college degrees and owning homes.

Last July, Judge Andrew Hanen, of the Southern District of Texas, ruled that DACA was unlawful and blocked the government from approving new applications for the program. Hanen's order, however, allowed the program to continue for current enrollees while the case is litigated.

Following Hanen's ruling, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the department would engage in a public rulemaking process "to preserve and fortify DACA." Since the ruling, a proposed DACA regulation has been submitted to the Office of Management and Budget and a final regulation is expected to be released in August.

The Justice Department later filed a notice to appeal Hanen's ruling, kicking off the appeals process in the 5th Circuit, a conservative-leaning appeals court. The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which is representing a group of DACA recipients who are defending the program, also appealed.

There were three issues at hand Wednesday, MALDEF President and General Counsel Thomas Saenz previously told reporters: standing, meaning whether Texas has proven injury from DACA and has the right to challenge the policy; that the Obama administration didn't follow proper procedures in implementing DACA; and the legality of the program.

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The Justice Department also cited a recent Supreme Court decision in filings leading up to Wednesday's arguments.

The Supreme Court restricted the authority that lower courts have to block the implementation of certain immigration policies alleged to be unlawful. In Garland v. Gonzales, the 6-3 conservative majority said lower courts could not offer class wide relief in such cases -- which concern policies having to with arrest, detention and removal of immigrants.


The holding suggested that from now on, in cases concerning those types of policies, lower courts can grant relief that affects individual challengers but won't be allowed to issue orders that broadly bar immigration officials from carrying out certain practices. The Justice Department argued that holding is in its favor here.

While it is unclear whether this case will end up before the Supreme Court, three justices signaled in a previous dissent their belief that the program is unlawful. The full court has not yet weighed in on DACA's legality

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Green Cards for Christmas!

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"Judd Stone, who argued on behalf of Texas, suggested that at least some DACA recipients would leave the country without the program."

not only the country, the fking universe. its basically a death sentence for many.


"DACA recipients have maximized their opportunity in these last 10 years," Maria Gabriela "Gaby" Pacheco, TheDream.US director of advocacy, development and communications, told reporters last week, citing, for example, recipients getting college degrees and owning homes.

what a complete idi0t, poor choice of argument smfh. yea we are fked.

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beingoflight is basically if glass half empty is a person. jesus christ this mfer is so negative despite everything DACA gave him and what he achieved with it the last 10 yrs.

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Y’all mofos are the ones who are negative…how long it been since Joey and Demys took office..not even a single word about Dreamers let alone GC..Trumpy at least said he would strike a deal lol..We don’t want DACA we want Dream Act (which UWD and Dems will never let you have..they need suckers like you to keep their business going)..

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lol there's is going to be neither daca nor dream act if the scenario you propose comes to pass...

Better to hold on to what we have (DACA) rather than some pipe dream that may never come (Dream Act)

We need to buy time so some of us can find Americans to marry or reasonable way to GTFO of this racist 2nd world country.

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I read somewhere that the loser will appeal to the full circuit bench?
Does anyone know a rough timeline?!

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This is it. The only way to legalization is marriage. Too bad they got this messed up rule that if you marry a GC holder you gotta go through consular processing or wait until he/she becomes US citizen and then apply. Dream Act is not passing any time soon

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Are we sure that this is it for us? Do we know for sure we can’t renew anymore?

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I think Beingoflight is Polska1/DanielPL

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ive called for Biden not giving us sht for literal years, these people get so upset because its the truth, we DEFINITELY had better chances at a bill with Trump forcing these mfs to act on urgency. but hey orange man bad.

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we’ll be okay, bro.

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I feel like this was a mistake of them to give them the option of separating deportation protection from work authorization.

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I'm more interested in if they will allow the renewals to continue while it's considered in SCOTUS. While it's still not looking good, SCOTUS has a precedent ruling for ACA because the states don't have the standing for the case. Texas and other states didn't show the factual standing that DACA hurts them. Also, it'll take more than a year for SCOTUS to make ruling. It'll be devastating to wait for the ruling without DACA.

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I dont understand the argument that texas is losing money supporting daca recepients considering daca recepients have to pay in and pay taxes just like a regular citizen but cant use those programs they pay into. How are they winning this? Seems like something that would be easy to argue.

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Has anyone considered that the court issue can be resolved if all Daca recipients leave the state of Texas? Simply move out of Texas and the legal cases go away.

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they all cant just leave like that though, bro. they have ties to that state.

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I guess it is just a choice, keep daca or "ties" to the state.. No ties if we get deported

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1] Still supporting Trump.
2] Thinking Trump would ever push for something that would benefit us.
3] Thinking Congress would act.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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This sums of the state of things - as in no one really knows. Best thing is keep an eye on your renewal date; and if you can afford it, renew early:

@leedsgarcia
Regarding the confusing nature of the 5th Circuit threat, the NY District Court opportunity, the angry Texas District Court judge, and the upcoming Biden Reg on #DACA - there is no 1 known scenario/path. But in all of them, Congress needs to act ASAP & pass permanent protections.

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I’m contemplating sending my renewal in early even though I don’t expire until 2024. Hopefully it doesn’t get rejected

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we all know congress is unable to pass anything and even if they try again it WILL fail.

Brace for impact we are about to lose it all.

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its about time we lose it all… we dont deserve it.

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I highly recommend you guys to watch this (at least starting at the 11:00 mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGqpnE7onVI

This guy gave a very nuanced analysis on the possible future of DACA.

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it is a good pragmatic take.

pretty sure whoever is IN the DACA program will be safe for the foreseeable future.

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He said the same thing I was thinking toward the end! This might be a situation where the can gets kicked down the road again until we are in danger again

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GOP will try to address immigration after the next presidential election. the assumption will be that they have all branches of gov. Whether we like it, will be up to debate. I expect a bill like the Grassley one, 3-5 year renewable work permit, and no citizenship. If GOP has the 60 senate seats, that will be something that most likely passes.

No bill will pass while Biden is in office.

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The Dream Act passed the house not too long ago, right?

Why aren't dems putting it through the process and eventually, putting it up for vote in the Senate? I know two stupid clowns will not support it, but how about the other Dems band together and send a message and add pressure... even if it's just symbolic and won't pass or will get fillibutered? (I already know the answer, but they should do something!)

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This is the only way lads:

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I can imagine one or two gals like that in this place, finding a guy to fix you in that condition is pretty much an impossible mission.

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Stop talking about fldreamerrr and VFT like that...they are coveted members of this dreamer community...

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