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ECW 10-20-2022 06:14 AM

NBC News: Dreamers to lose protection early next year.
 
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But both Republican and Democratic Senate aides say the effort has a slim chance of working and predict that Dreamers will most likely begin to lose their work authorization and security from deportation sometime early next year. Republicans, who are expected to increase their numbers in Congress in November’s midterm elections, largely oppose protecting Dreamers unless Democrats make significant concessions to beef up border security and turn away asylum-seekers, which they are unlikely to do.
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DACA legislation would need at least 10 Republicans to sign on to pass the Senate, which is unlikely, say Senate aides from both Republican and Democratic offices.
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Another Republican aide said there is “zero” chance to pass immigration legislation while Joe Biden is president.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...drea-rcna52123

PapiChulo 10-20-2022 07:28 AM

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why did you change the title of the article?

Imthexman 10-20-2022 08:09 AM

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"Dreamers will most likely begin to lose their work authorization and security from deportation sometime early next year."

Lol, why do they think that? And what's early next year February, March? Unless Hanen kills daca I don't see thus happening until 1-2 years from now.

Marco956 10-20-2022 09:49 AM

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Yea I wish they would clarify why they think we’ll start losing protections early next year.

Either way, DACA is a zombie program and with Republicans nearly guaranteed to take the house, theres very little chance they would even pass the bridge act, let alone a Dream act. Better start preparing for the worst.

applebees121 10-20-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco956 (Post 768392)
Yea I wish they would clarify why they think we’ll start losing protections early next year.

Either way, DACA is a zombie program and with Republicans nearly guaranteed to take the house, theres very little chance they would even pass the bridge act, let alone a Dream act. Better start preparing for the worst.

If you read the article, they think Judge Hanen is going to ultimately end protection and EAD for current recipients because he already declared DACA illegal.

I sent my renewal 2 weeks ago, and it should be renewed around Mid January when its 150 days from my current ead expiration date. Fingers crossed that they pass the dream act during lame duck session (its gonna be tough).

Copper 10-20-2022 11:45 AM

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Don’t worry guys, Biden and the Democrats will fix this in 2024, this time they mean it…….

2MoreYears 10-20-2022 12:10 PM

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Not as scary as when Trump took office. I clearly remember the night he won.

PapiChulo 10-20-2022 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 768395)
Not as scary as when Trump took office. I clearly remember the night he won.

yeah especially on Sept 2017 when Atty Gen. Sessions went on the podium to announce DACAs recession. idk, bro. kinda the same feeling to me tbh. its just not as bad cause our “friends and allies” Democrats are in power.

i just feel like the Democrats bailed on us and left us out to die. feels bad, man.

bigdreamer2010 10-20-2022 12:40 PM

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Fake news. Looks like it’s the same reporter that said the White House was preparing an EO for Hanen’s ruling.

DACA-IR-DA 10-20-2022 01:54 PM

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This means is that CIR/DA is likely to pass.

beingoflight 10-20-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 768396)
yeah especially on Sept 2017 when Atty Gen. Sessions went on the podium to announce DACAs recession. idk, bro. kinda the same feeling to me tbh. its just not as bad cause our “friends and allies” Democrats are in power.

i just feel like the Democrats bailed on us and left us out to die. feels bad, man.

insane people think this way, its unreal.

this is the WORST outcome it could happen for DACA, Democrats are useless for immigration, at least with Trump, he could of forced negotiation out of this and force congress, now we are beyond fked. Democrats with their legalization for all or nothing bullsht will get us nothing.

but hey we dont got the mean tweets from orange man telling us not to worry under him anymore.

all we can do i renew as close as possible to the elimination, wait and hope for Trump to come back to compromise and give him the wall.

just heard Pence want to run for president, if DeSantis or Pence wins we are beyond done.

PapiChulo 10-20-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768399)
insane people think this way, its unreal.

this is the WORST outcome it could happen for DACA, Democrats are useless for immigration, at least with Trump, he could of forced negotiation out of this and force congress, now we are beyond fked. Democrats with their legalization for all or nothing bullsht will get us nothing.

but hey we dont got the mean tweets from orange man telling us not to worry under him anymore.

all we can do i renew as close as possible for to the elimination and wait and hope for Trump to come back to compromise and give him the wall.

your mom is beyond fked.

cooltalker 10-20-2022 03:32 PM

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Stop with the false titles and fear mongering. No court has ruled to rescind issued work permits. If anything, Hanen wants to stop new applicants but continue allowing renewals given the circumstance...

beingoflight 10-20-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltalker (Post 768401)
Stop with the false titles and fear mongering. No court has ruled to rescind issued work permits. If anything, Hanen wants to stop new applicants but continue allowing renewals given the circumstance...

so telling something that WILL happen is fear mongering? many will be caught by surprise when DACA end, least that people can do is prepare.

vft1008 10-20-2022 06:51 PM

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Does anyone think that even if the Dems tried right now, they would convince Manchin and Sinema to vote for our cause? They are are not trying becuase the votes aren't there when you have those Rs in Ds clothes. Let's be real.

applebees121 10-20-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 768403)
Does anyone think that even if the Dems tried right now, they would convince Manchin and Sinema to vote for our cause? They are are not trying becuase the votes aren't there when you have those Rs in Ds clothes. Let's be real.

Lame Duck session is our best bet. They’re going to need 10 R’s, and Manchin & Sinema. According to Durbin, he can probably get 4-5 R’s on board for Dream Act.

Only way Dream Act gets passed is if Democrats compromised and offer republicans something. But as we know in politics, compromise isn’t something they (both parties) generally do.

ECW 10-20-2022 07:27 PM

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Anything happening in the lame duck will definitely be contingent upon what happen after the election.

If democrats some how manage to hold the House and the Senate, we all know nothing will get done in the lame duck. The can will just get kicked down the road.

If republicans take the house and the senate, absolutely nothing is going to happen in the lane duck. They are going to feel as if they have a mandate from the American people to be tough on immigration.

Our best bet is republicans taking the house (by a small margin) and democrats holding on to the senate, at least some leverage for the next 2 years if nothing happens in the lame duck.

applebees121 10-20-2022 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 768405)
Anything happening in the lame duck will definitely be contingent upon what happen after the election.

If democrats some how manage to hold the House and the Senate, we all know nothing will get done in the lame duck. The can will just get kicked down the road.

If republicans take the house and the senate, absolutely nothing is going to happen in the lane duck. They are going to feel as if they have a mandate from the American people to be tough on immigration.

Our best bet is republicans taking the house (by a small margin) and democrats holding on to the senate, at least some leverage for the next 2 years if nothing happens in the lame duck.

I agree with this.

As it stands with polling, looks like Democrats will have slightly majority in the senate while Republicans will control the house.

Demise 10-20-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768399)
insane people think this way, its unreal.

this is the WORST outcome it could happen for DACA, Democrats are useless for immigration, at least with Trump, he could of forced negotiation out of this and force congress, now we are beyond fked. Democrats with their legalization for all or nothing bullsht will get us nothing.

but hey we dont got the mean tweets from orange man telling us not to worry under him anymore.

all we can do i renew as close as possible to the elimination, wait and hope for Trump to come back to compromise and give him the wall.

just heard Pence want to run for president, if DeSantis or Pence wins we are beyond done.

Schumer offered 25 billion for the wall for the Dream Act. Trump said no. This moron thought he can get his 4 pillars for Bridge Act. Anyways, that was in 2017, even if it were to pass 2017+3 = 2020. So it'd expire 2 years ago and if we'd get lucky maybe we'd get DED under Biden.

beingoflight 10-20-2022 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 768407)
Schumer offered 25 billion for the wall for the Dream Act. Trump said no. This moron thought he can get his 4 pillars for Bridge Act. Anyways, that was in 2017, even if it were to pass 2017+3 = 2020. So it'd expire 2 years ago and if we'd get lucky maybe we'd get DED under Biden.

thats what CNN/MSNPC said, never go full rtrd and follow the MSM.

Trump pulled back because the demonrats and United We Dream began with the legalization for all or nothing bullsht.

Nexus 10-20-2022 09:51 PM

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When the Democrat's #1 priority is abortion, I doubt we see anything with immigration unless we get knocked down by the supreme court.

https://i.ibb.co/zXw3TzM/abort.jpg

PapiChulo 10-20-2022 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768408)
thats what CNN/MSNPC said, never go full rtrd and follow the MSM.

Trump pulled back because the demonrats and United We Dream began with the legalization for all or nothing bullsht.

you’re so edgy, bro. love “DEMONRATS” what about the “CUCKSERVATIVES?”

damn, brother.. you want to be plugged in into the matrix so bad huh?

im with you. hell yeah, brother!

applebees121 10-20-2022 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768408)
thats what CNN/MSNPC said, never go full rtrd and follow the MSM.

Trump pulled back because the demonrats and United We Dream began with the legalization for all or nothing bullsht.

Not doubting that Those channels aren’t liberal bias, but conservative platforms like Fox are the same if not worse.

I wasn’t planning on responding to you because you’re clearly a bit childish, but if you really thought Trump was going to save us DACA kids, you’re kind of gullible. It wasn’t going to happen as long as Stephen Miller was in his ears.

2Face 10-21-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 768395)
Not as scary as when Trump took office. I clearly remember the night he won.

Scary but that was I am afraid to say the highest chances of being legalized....right now...zilch...nada...zero...huevo...not even close...literally marriage is the only way...forget about any sort of immigraiton reform...if you want your parents to legalize you should find love and marry U.S. citizen hopefully and then wait 3 years and become citizen yourself and then apply for them...theyll get GC in 1 year...

Copper 10-21-2022 10:48 PM

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Who would have thought that Roe v. Wade and DACA would have ended under Biden’s watch.

What we all thought it would happen under a Trump presidency is happening under a Biden presidency.

Without a shadow of a a doubt Biden will go down as the worse President in history. We are losing more human rights under his administration and the Democratic Party doesn’t have a back bone.

With a Republican majority in 2023 things are likely to get worse. Republicans have done amazingly great with their overall message to their voters and have made so many gains in voter registration.

Democrats on the other hand are just nowhere to be found.

vft1008 10-21-2022 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 768420)
Who would have thought that Roe v. Wade and DACA would have ended under Biden’s watch.

What we all thought it would happen under a Trump presidency is happening under a Biden presidency.

Without a shadow of a a doubt Biden will go down as the worse President in history. We are losing more human rights under his administration and the Democratic Party doesn’t have a back bone.

With a Republican majority in 2023 things are likely to get worse. Republicans have done amazingly great with their overall message to their voters and have made so many gains in voter registration.

Democrats on the other hand are just nowhere to be found.

Do you fucking have a clue how things work? Do you realize how stupid and uneducated you sound right now?

Do you happen to remember how Trump appointed let's say... a few supreme court judges when he was president which resulted in RvW being overturned recently? And here you are saying "gee guys, how could Biden have let Roe V Wade be overturned? Under his watch? Who wooda thought?" *derp face*

You think Biden can just go in and replace supreme court judges like that? How stupid can you be? Maybe you also forgot how many judges Trump appointed to higher circuit courts?

And then of course you forget to mention that the Biden Admin is actually doing something WOTHOUT USELESS CONGRESS by using executive orders to protect abortion access. Completley counter to your point, which suggests 1) he could have just magically prevented the SCOTUS to overturn RvW "under his watch" and 2) that he is just sitting on his ass on the issue.

But yeah, who would have thought, right?:rolleyes:

beingoflight 10-21-2022 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 768421)
Do you fucking have a clue how things work? Do you realize how stupid and uneducated you sound right now?

Do you happen to remember how Trump appointed let's say... a few supreme court judges when he was president which resulted in RvW being overturned recently? And here you are saying "gee guys, how could Biden have let Roe V Wade be overturned? Under his watch? Who wooda thought?" *derp face*

You think Biden can just go in and replace supreme court judges like that? How stupid can you be? Maybe you also forgot how many judges Trump appointed to higher circuit courts?

And then of course you forget to mention that the Biden Admin is actually doing something WOTHOUT USELESS CONGRESS by using executive orders to protect abortion access. Completley counter to your point, which suggests 1) he could have just magically prevented the SCOTUS to overturn RvW "under his watch" and 2) that he is just sitting on his ass on the issue.

But yeah, who would have thought, right?:rolleyes:

you seem triggered by the truth that person said. its ok for Brandon to use executive orders but not for the orange man? i shall declare you just another NPC.

keep seething hard and coping as much as you can, its a reality and a fact that with everything as fked up as it is right now just as it was before Trump took office it all WILL bring him back again hopefully.

im eager for him to come back, he helped mexico a lot with the trade agreement and Mexico has been recovering despite the pandemic and our parents can rest easy when they go back to retire over there.

beingoflight 10-21-2022 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper (Post 768420)
Who would have thought that Roe v. Wade and DACA would have ended under Biden’s watch.

What we all thought it would happen under a Trump presidency is happening under a Biden presidency.

Without a shadow of a a doubt Biden will go down as the worse President in history. We are losing more human rights under his administration and the Democratic Party doesn’t have a back bone.

With a Republican majority in 2023 things are likely to get worse. Republicans have done amazingly great with their overall message to their voters and have made so many gains in voter registration.

Democrats on the other hand are just nowhere to be found.

i said it countless times and got hit by the NPCs pandering to the demonrats a lot.

but just let things evolve as they will regardless of their feelings, all we can do is brace for impact by renewing as close as possible to the end of DACA to wait for 2024 so Trump can fix all this bullsht. keep in mind that most NPCs are either hourly employees or wagies that have never been in charge of large quantities of people in their life and dont understand how governing and policy actually works.

I'll say it right now, SCOTUS is going to kill DACA and in order to not create that much of a crisis they are going to allow EADs to expire, 2024 comes, Trump comes back goes thermonuclear on the economy and attaches an immigration reform to an economy bill with compromise, and given the situation, demonrats will bend and it will pass. people with many years here will only get an EAD without a chance to citizenship (as it should happen) the wall will be built, and us dreamers will get a pathway to citizenship.

demonrats will seethe cope and cry oceans as always. while i and everyone i know go vote republican or libertarian for the rest of our lifes, economy booms like crazy again as it was before the pandemic, war ends, zelensky gets fked and gets no more handouts, Trump tells NATO to get fked if they dont contribute in defense spending as they should, Putin gets half of Ukraine, the US becomes stronger than ever.

PapiChulo 10-22-2022 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768423)
demonrats will seethe cope and cry oceans as always. while i and everyone i know go vote republican or libertarian for the rest of our lifes, economy booms like crazy again as it was before the pandemic, war ends, zelensky gets fked and gets no more handouts, Trump tells NATO to get fked if they dont contribute in defense spending as they should, Putin gets half of Ukraine, the US becomes stronger than ever.

you’re making me so hard right now, bro. you’re so edgy when use terms such as DEMONRATS (who would’ve thought of that term?!). you sir, are a stable genius.

peak sigma grindset right here, folks. you know what we drink for breakfast? liberal tears.

plug me into the matrix with you. hell yeah, brother.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-22-2022 01:31 AM

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wait what


"Under Bidens Presidency, Women lost such an important right!! *speaks quietly....yes... Trump appointed those judges in the supreme court...* Biden isnt doing anything for this country!"

then comes Bingo

"YOU GUYS JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH!! BIDEN ISNT DOING ANYTHING FOR US!!"


lmao these two abysmal trolls are actually stuck in 2017

beingoflight 10-22-2022 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 768424)
you’re making me so hard right now, bro. you’re so edgy when use terms such as DEMONRATS (who would’ve thought of that term?!). you sir, are a stable genius.

peak sigma grindset right here, folks. you know what we drink for breakfast? liberal tears.

plug me into the matrix with you. hell yeah, brother.

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 768425)
wait what


"Under Bidens Presidency, Women lost such an important right!! *speaks quietly....yes... Trump appointed those judges in the supreme court...* Biden isnt doing anything for this country!"

then comes Bingo

"YOU GUYS JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH!! BIDEN ISNT DOING ANYTHING FOR US!!"


lmao these two abysmal trolls are actually stuck in 2017

thus the coping and dilation begin.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-22-2022 03:22 AM

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Are you seriously denying Trump appointed those judges into the supreme court?

yes or no

PapiChulo 10-22-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768426)
thus the coping and dilation begin.

whats your 4chan username, bro?

Sorrybrah 10-22-2022 10:29 AM

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In my opinion and observation, Biden wasn't really in it to help dreamers like Obama was.

Might be best to focus on the next election instead. I really hope someone with enough charisma like Beto runs and wins the primary.

PapiChulo 10-22-2022 11:07 AM

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the administration should just put us on Deferred Enforced Departure after DACA winds down..

ECW 10-22-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 768430)
the administration should just put us on Deferred Enforced Departure after DACA winds down..

Does that come with work permits?

PapiChulo 10-22-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 768431)
Does that come with work permits?

DED is in the president’s discretion to authorize as part of his constitutional power to conduct foreign relations. Although DED is not a specific immigration status, individuals covered by DED are not subject to removal from the United States for a designated period of time

DED Eligibility
Eligibility requirements for Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) are based on the terms the president specifies in each DED directive. Each presidential directive includes the criteria for an individual to be covered by DED and certain exceptions for individuals who are not covered.

Working in the United States
If DHS provides work authorization as a benefit of DED for your country, then you may request an employment authorization document by filing Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization.

Automatic Employment Authorization Document (EAD) Extension

Sometimes DHS must issue a blanket automatic extension of the expiring EADs for DED beneficiaries of a specific country to allow time to issue EADs with new validity dates. USCIS will usually publish a notice in the Federal Register announcing automatic extensions. The notice will tell you if your EAD has been automatically extended and until what date.

beingoflight 10-24-2022 02:56 PM

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if Obama didn't do it what makes you think the senile old man would when mf wont even talk about immigration anymore? jesus christ smfh.

PapiChulo 10-24-2022 03:17 PM

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uhhhhh… Obama did? it was called DACA and DAPA.

Demise 10-24-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 768436)
if Obama didn't do it what makes you think the senile old man would when mf wont even talk about immigration anymore? jesus christ smfh.

I mean the senile old man who has that nuclear uncle and paints himself orange every day sure didn't.


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