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PapiChulo 11-18-2024 02:15 PM

Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
In his first 100 days, President-elect Donald Trump plans to begin the process of deporting hundreds of thousands of people. He is expected to end parole for people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela. And he is likely to undo a policy that significantly constrained deportations for people who weren’t deemed threats to public safety or national security.

Trump’s team is already thinking about how to craft executive actions that could survive legal challenges from immigrants’ rights groups. And this time, his fights will be refereed by a federal judiciary that he transformed (he appointed 200+ federal judges himself) and a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court.

Catch up with the 5 immigration initiatives Trump’s expected to roll out quickly – and the hurdles they could face:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/1...wFCSUHxCIcR3-A

PapiChulo 11-18-2024 02:18 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Still nothing on DACA, man.. He never mentioned it ever during the campaign and now. Wtf is he on?!

PapiChulo 11-18-2024 02:26 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

If TPS is the highest-profile statutory humanitarian relief program for foreign nationals, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is its executive action counterpart.

DACA was the Obama administration’s most visible immigrant relief effort, an origin story that attracts Democrats and repels Republicans.

But through its lifetime, DACA has gained bipartisan clout because it protects a publicly sympathetic group of people known as “Dreamers.”

Dreamers are undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as minors — DACA beneficiaries are a subset of Dreamers who fulfilled the program’s requirements, including being born on or after 1981, arriving before 2007 and passing the relevant background checks.

Because DACA started in 2012 with age-specific rules, the DACA-eligible population has shrunk significantly since its inception. At its peak, the program had more than 800,000 beneficiaries, a number that as of June shrunk to 535,030, according to United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

Throughout its lifetime, DACA has faced multiple challenges on its legality, primarily through lawsuits led by red states, and a case is currently under review by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals. During litigation, DHS has been barred from processing any new DACA applications, increasing the rate of membership attrition.

DACA was first declared illegal in 2021 by a federal judge in Texas, who argued the Obama administration circumvented Congress in its creation by not issuing it as a rule subject to a comments period. In 2023, that same judge ruled President Biden’s reissuing of the program as a rule subject to comments was also illegal.

“DACA is already being litigated, right? We’re waiting for that final decision. So in some ways, like the question of how sound DACA is, is already in the hands of the judiciary,” said Gupta.

That could make a Trump rescission of the program moot, though he did order its termination in 2017, despite faint hopes from immigrant advocates that he would spare Dreamers.


https://thehill.com/latino/4993723-t...ortation-plan/

Copper 11-18-2024 02:29 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
The ongoing silence from Biden and Harris regarding DACA for the past 4 years continues to weigh heavily on my heart. The disappointment and betrayal I feel is overwhelming.

It is disheartening to realize that they even lack the courage to grant us a pardon before they depart from office. It seems that our plight is not a priority for them, and they find it more advantageous to continue to keep us in a state of uncertainty and fear.

Yes, we are aware of the Republicans' feelings towards us, but it is worth noting that they have not made any empty promises. At least they haven’t been upfront about their feelings.

Copper 11-18-2024 02:33 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 772758)
Still nothing on DACA, man.. He never mentioned it ever during the campaign and now. Wtf is he on?!

I have found some solace in the fact that President-elect Trump has not spoken negatively about us in his 2024 campaign, which is a positive thing.

However, I am worried that he may direct his Justice Department to not defend DACA and let it be decided in the courts, potentially leading to its end. I truly hope that my fears are unfounded.

PapiChulo 11-18-2024 02:34 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 772761)
I have found some solace in the fact that President-elect Trump has not spoken negatively about us in his 2024 campaign, which is a positive thing.

However, I am worried that he may direct his Justice Department to not defend DACA and let it be decided in the courts, potentially leading to its end. I truly hope that my fears are unfounded.

It was going to end regardless of who won the election.

Copper 11-18-2024 02:35 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 772758)
Still nothing on DACA, man.. He never mentioned it ever during the campaign and now. Wtf is he on?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 772762)
It was going to end regardless of who won the election.

While there may be some truth to that, he has the option to expedite the process if he chooses to do so.

DACA-IR-DA 11-18-2024 03:56 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
It’s just fear. You need congress approval for it. They are going after undocumented with criminal record.

Got_Daca 11-18-2024 04:52 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Pianoswithoutfaith's mom is getting deported

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-18-2024 09:54 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
They’re going to dig her grave and send her decomposing body back home? Got daca do you ever get tired of being one of the stupidest people on this site

hDreamer1988 11-18-2024 10:52 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
DACA and Dreamers will be used as a bargaining chip to get the Senate Democrats to agree to stricter immigration laws and major changes.

Trumps 4 Pillars bill from 2018 included the following:
1. Path to Citizenship for DREAMers
2. Border Security
3. An End to the Diversity Visa Lottery
4. Restrictions on Family-Based Immigration

He will most likely try to add Asylum reform and end birthright citizenship in his next immigration bill. Based on the Democrat's immigration enforcement-only bill from 2023, I think they are getting ready to make a deal on stricter immigration laws.. Most acknowledge the border as a major issue and we will see them change their stance on it by the next election. We will first see Republicans try to do it alone and get blocked by the senate parliamentarian.

PapiChulo 11-18-2024 11:07 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 772773)
DACA and Dreamers will be used as a bargaining chip to get the Senate Democrats to agree to stricter immigration laws and major changes.

Trumps 4 Pillars bill from 2018 included the following:
1. Path to Citizenship for DREAMers
2. Border Security
3. An End to the Diversity Visa Lottery
4. Restrictions on Family-Based Immigration

He will most likely try to add Asylum reform and end birthright citizenship in his next immigration bill. Based on the Democrat's immigration enforcement-only bill from 2023, I think they are getting ready to make a deal on stricter immigration laws.. Most acknowledge the border as a major issue and we will see them change their stance on it by the next election. We will first see Republicans try to do it alone and get blocked by the senate parliamentarian.

Democrats wont sign up for Asylum reform and End birthright citizenship from the go. Best we can get is a codified DACA with just Republicans going at it alone.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-18-2024 11:14 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Trump’s team is going after citizenship by birth and ending citizenship by naturalization


And they have all 3 branches of the government. They do no need daca for anything

PapiChulo 11-18-2024 11:58 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 772776)
Trump’s team is going after citizenship by birth and ending citizenship by naturalization


And they have all 3 branches of the government. They do no need daca for anything

They got 8 months to do it then, then its mid-term election season again. I doubt they can do all that.

JayR9 11-19-2024 12:08 AM

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lol Maga thinks they going to deport 15 M people in 4 years. Economy would collapse.

hDreamer1988 11-19-2024 01:58 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

And they have all 3 branches of the government. They do no need daca for anything
They need 60 votes in the Senate, they only have 53 so it is not a supermajority. Much of what Trump is saying is political theatre, reality is different. There is still a legal process to go through and that takes time.

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Democrats wont sign up for Asylum reform and End birthright citizenship from the go. Best we can get is a codified DACA with just Republicans going at it alone.
I agree with birthright citizenship but Dem already tried Asylum reform in their failed 2023 bill so I think they would be open to certain changes. I would be happy with a codified DACA, it would mean safety and security we do not have.

PapiChulo 11-19-2024 02:40 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 772779)

I agree with birthright citizenship but Dem already tried Asylum reform in their failed 2023 bill so I think they would be open to certain changes. I would be happy with a codified DACA, it would mean safety and security we do not have.

I agree. That's fair.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-19-2024 04:57 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
There’s absolutely no way in hell they’re gonna deport even a million people from inland USA. But to think daca is a bargaining chip is dumb as hell. This isn’t 2017 where Trump had to leverage with the democrats. And for legal proceedings


What part of Trump controls the judicial system don’t you people get. He packed the courts with judges loyalists to him

Got_Daca 11-19-2024 10:32 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 772784)
There’s absolutely no way in hell they’re gonna deport even a million people from inland USA. But to think daca is a bargaining chip is dumb as hell. This isn’t 2017 where Trump had to leverage with the democrats. And for legal proceedings


What part of Trump controls the judicial system don’t you people get. He packed the courts with judges loyalists to him

Trump is not powerful enough to do what he wants

Trump is too powerful

Derp.

Copper 11-19-2024 11:54 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 772784)
There’s absolutely no way in hell they’re gonna deport even a million people from inland USA. But to think daca is a bargaining chip is dumb as hell. This isn’t 2017 where Trump had to leverage with the democrats. And for legal proceedings


What part of Trump controls the judicial system don’t you people get. He packed the courts with judges loyalists to him

In order to pass major legislation on immigration reform, it is necessary for him to have the support of Democratic Senators to reach the 60-vote threshold. It is unlikely that Thune will eliminate the filibuster for this purpose. If they were to attempt to push it through a budget reconciliation bill, it would still face significant obstacles.

The ability to achieve this goal will depend on whether the Senate parliamentarian determines that it aligns with the chamber's Byrd Rule. However, GOP senators could potentially override the parliamentarian to advance Trump's key legislative priorities.

I do acknowledge that DACA may not serve as the bargaining tool we anticipate, not only with Republicans but also with Democrats. Democrats did not mention us in their stringent border bill, even with a Democratic president, what makes us believe that they will support any other bill moving forward with a Republican president?

Got_Daca 11-19-2024 01:17 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 772789)
In order to pass major legislation on immigration reform, it is necessary for him to have the support of Democratic Senators to reach the 60-vote threshold. It is unlikely that Thune will eliminate the filibuster for this purpose. If they were to attempt to push it through a budget reconciliation bill, it would still face significant obstacles.

The ability to achieve this goal will depend on whether the Senate parliamentarian determines that it aligns with the chamber's Byrd Rule. However, GOP senators could potentially override the parliamentarian to advance Trump's key legislative priorities.

I do acknowledge that DACA may not serve as the bargaining tool we anticipate, not only with Republicans but also with Democrats. Democrats did not mention us in their stringent border bill, even with a Democratic president, what makes us believe that they will support any other bill moving forward with a Republican president?

Because that Border Bill was basically back-door amnesty

So Trump ordered it to be killed.

Copper 11-19-2024 01:31 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 772791)
Because that Border Bill was basically back-door amnesty

So Trump ordered it to be killed.

It was a stand alone Border Bill? How was it “amnesty”? The first one had provisions, but Schumer revised it and reintroduced it without anything accompanying it.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-20-2024 01:54 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
I very clearly remember Trump saying he asked for too much as why those 4 pillar bills failed

Got_Daca 11-20-2024 10:48 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 772805)
I very clearly remember Trump saying he asked for too much as why those 4 pillar bills failed

Memories fail, Oregon DACA Dreamer

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-20-2024 08:05 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Remember how you were making off of people who use hangouts then immediately bragged about using immigration help groups to pay for your daca

Got_Daca 11-21-2024 11:57 AM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 772818)
Remember how you were making off of people who use hangouts then immediately bragged about using immigration help groups to pay for your daca

I applied and I was approved.

Just like your DACA, Oregon DACA Dreamer.

Pianoswithoutfaith 11-21-2024 10:25 PM

Re: Trump’s immigration crackdown is expected to start on Day 1.
 
Like the parasite that you are


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