Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

A small, bipartisan group of senators have been quietly sketching out a possible new border deal for early 2025, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: Border and immigration reform is the white whale of Congress. It's also President-elect Trump's No. 1 priority.

Top Senate Republicans plan to move quickly on a border package, using the budget reconciliation process to get it done.
But the idea of a bipartisan border deal that could get 60 votes has popped up as GOP infighting drags on over the best path forward in Trump's first 100 days.

Zoom in: At least two Trump-state Democrats have been involved in the conversations, which Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) described as "very" serious and the details "very secret."

"If we can do border separately — without reconciliation — then [Trump's] okay with" one reconciliation package, Mullin, who's been a key link between Trump, the Senate and the House, told Axios.
Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) is one of those Democrats.: "If there's willingness to work in a bipartisan way to do some stuff, not only on border security, but on immigration reform, I think it would be great."
Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), who is up for reelection next cycle, told Axios of the bipartisan border talks: "We're gonna be certainly engaged in efforts to make that happen."
"There are all kinds of conversations — and I hope to be a part of them as they continue — aiming at comprehensive immigration reform," Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) said.

Between the lines: Politics have shifted on the border, with many Democrats — especially in states Trump won — moving to the right and embracing stricter enforcement measures to stem illegal border crossings and drug smuggling.

Trump may have further made an opening by suggesting he would be willing to provide protections for DACA recipients —people who illegally entered the country as children.
"We have to do something about the Dreamers because these are people that have been brought here at a very young age," Trump said in an interview earlier this month.
That has long been the top immigration priority for Democrats.

A small, bipartisan group of senators have been quietly sketching out a possible new border deal for early 2025, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: Border and immigration reform is the white whale of Congress. It's also President-elect Trump's No. 1 priority.

Top Senate Republicans plan to move quickly on a border package, using the budget reconciliation process to get it done.
But the idea of a bipartisan border deal that could get 60 votes has popped up as GOP infighting drags on over the best path forward in Trump's first 100 days.

Zoom in: At least two Trump-state Democrats have been involved in the conversations, which Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) described as "very" serious and the details "very secret."

"If we can do border separately — without reconciliation — then [Trump's] okay with" one reconciliation package, Mullin, who's been a key link between Trump, the Senate and the House, told Axios.
Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) is one of those Democrats.: "If there's willingness to work in a bipartisan way to do some stuff, not only on border security, but on immigration reform, I think it would be great."
Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), who is up for reelection next cycle, told Axios of the bipartisan border talks: "We're gonna be certainly engaged in efforts to make that happen."
"There are all kinds of conversations — and I hope to be a part of them as they continue — aiming at comprehensive immigration reform," Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) said.

Between the lines: Politics have shifted on the border, with many Democrats — especially in states Trump won — moving to the right and embracing stricter enforcement measures to stem illegal border crossings and drug smuggling.

Trump may have further made an opening by suggesting he would be willing to provide protections for DACA recipients —people who illegally entered the country as children.
"We have to do something about the Dreamers because these are people that have been brought here at a very young age," Trump said in an interview earlier this month.
That has long been the top immigration priority for Democrats.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/19/sen...der-deal-trump

Senate Republicans give border crackdown top priority in 2025

Incoming Senate GOP leader John Thune (R-S.D.) is actively seeking ways to make next year's border and defense package deficit-neutral, if not deficit-negative.

Why it matters: Despite pushback from House Republicans, Thune is full steam ahead on his two-part reconciliation plan for next year, sources tell Axios.

Top staffers in leadership and committee offices met Friday to start sketching out the logistics of the process.
Trump adviser Stephen Miller said on Sunday that the border package would be passed by "early February," indicating President-elect Trump's team is on board with the two-part plan.

The border portion of the first reconciliation package — which also includes energy and defense — could be as much as $120 billion, a source familiar told Axios.

It would go toward wall and border agents but also build out infrastructure at Immigration and Customs Enforcement for Trump's deportation efforts.

Zoom in: After pressure from some Senate Republicans, Thune is gathering ideas for ways to pay for the package likely to include hundreds of billions of dollars for defense and the border — though the exact total is not clear.

One idea: Overturning President Biden's student loan program, which could free up to $200 billion, sources familiar with the conversations told Axios.
Some of the package could also be paid for by increased revenue through some of the energy proposals.

What they're saying: "While I support spending restrictions and tax cuts, my top priority — and the first order of business in the Senate Budget Committee — is to secure a broken border," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who will chair that committee come January, posted on X on Monday.

"The bill will be transformational, it will be paid for, and it will go first," he added.

What to watch: The second proposed package will deal with extending the Trump-era tax cuts and is expected to be far more complicated to work out.

It's not clear whether Republicans will be as serious about trying to offset the total cost of extending those tax breaks in the same way.

Zoom out: There's still disagreement over Thune's approach within the party.

Rep. Jason Smith (R-Mo.), who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, has criticized the plan and said he expects just one big reconciliation package next year.
But senators seem to be backing the idea.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/10/joh...-deficit-trump

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Cautiously optimistic. I feel 3/10 in optimism.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

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inb4 United We Dream begins with the "Legalization for all or nothing" bullsht

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

you all give them more credit and fame than they deserve. They are just a lobbying organization. At best they can ask for things aka help influence but they aren't the official DACA voice. They get attention from the media because they relate to the topic and its an easy filler article to drive clicks. Or just padding in an article.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

2025 was to be our year

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Has the House agreed to bring an immigration bill up to a vote? I think they can get 60 votes in the senate but we need the house to bring it up to a vote.. or else we get another dream act.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

I'm so sick of the word ''bipartisan". Whenever I hear it, it is a telltale sign that nothing will come of it. If something is bipartisan , usually whoever gets credit for whatever it is that is being proposed is the incumbent administration. When things go bad, the other side gets the blame because the bill was "bipartisan". In other words, to conclude my thoughts, there is no real incentive by any party that is on the opposition to genuinely support any bipartisan effort except as a token demonstration that they are part of the solution.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

¡doa!

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Exactly.
Same fate befalls all these secret "bipartisan" groups.
They want to look like they are doing something to their respective political bases.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

You can only receive what you see yourself receiving. This is what the "oracle" said to me.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Trump as a business person and now as an elected president with previous experience knows that immigration is good for the country - reason why without frontline workers in various fields, the economy would collapse. We need a legalization program. Only way to register, screen, and conditionally legalize those who want to become American citizens. Not everyone does. Some just want to work and be able to leave and return as needed. Others, like those who have lived here since childhood, many left out of DACA, are American in everything but name.

Honestly, a legalization program is the best thing for the economy and the security of the country.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

I was reading an article on daca myths and noticed that they intentionally screwed with stats. For example, saying that most dacas are from advanced wealthy nations because there "seems" to be a high number of Europeans in the list. But proportionally they are a rounding error. Complaints that we are no longer kids. Damn I wonder if congress had anything to do with that and it's notorious ineffectiveness. Or doing a pathetic attemot to link daca with crime and terror. Somehow in over 40+ years no terrorist has come through the wide open border. Because it's easier for them to come in with a visa.

So much statistical misrepresentation that it quickly became a comedy. And the cherry on top was that they cited themselves. 🤣. Cmon guy. That's a grade school level error. You can't cite yourself. That is as degenerate as dating a gender swapped version of yourself. So much for all that schooling. Ask your uni for a refund. I might deconstruct it later so we can point and laugh.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

You wont lose anything by having some hope

But you will lose everything if you don't have hope

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Lol complaining we are no longer kids. Yes, so sketchy that we weren't able to stop ourselves from growing older! Deportable offense even!

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Kinda like what happened to the aged out dreamers that got f**ked by obama when DACA was initially started. Never understood the upper age limit.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Don't get me started about aging out of parents' green card petition (turning 21) because of how long the wait times are. And they make you start over! You don't even get to retain your priority date.

Re: Scoop: Senate starts "secret" talks about bipartisan border deal
 

Its always such a tragedy that American politics has devolved into the lowest form of entertainment in the country next to worldStar but with actual consequences for everyone. If you look at the debates of Obama and Romney and compare them to the ones today its mind boggling how much everything has changed for the worse.



I miss the halcyon days of 2012.

It was supposed to be for the kids and 30s is when you stop being so youthful. Not that we can control it. But hey, time moves forward. The problem has continued unabated and now we are no longer kids. How about reference how we all have extensive ties to this country, jobs, spouses, children, and have resided here without committing crimes for long periods of time 20 years, 30, 40...years in some cases. Where is the fairness for those of us who tried our best to behave and integrate into this country? Is 40 years enough of "back of the line"?

and before someone starts up with the BUT BeInG HeRe wItHoUt pApErS Is a cRiMe. Wrong. Its a civil infraction, stop getting your news from right wing media that makes stuff up 80% of the time and is against your best interests.