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bigdreamer2010 06-17-2021 07:39 AM

Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ration-changes

Senate Democrats are weighing plans to speed some components of a stalled immigration overhaul through the Senate later this year as part of a broad Democrat-only measure with much of President Joe Biden’s economic agenda.

The idea was discussed Wednesday at a meeting between Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and all 11 Democrats on the Senate Budget Committee, said one of the participants, Tim Kaine of Virginia. The lawmakers met to craft strategy for a 2022 fiscal blueprint that could enable other legislation to clear the Senate with just 50 votes -- short-circuiting a likely Republican filibuster of a series of costly Biden agenda items.

Kaine said that providing a pathway to citizenship for some undocumented immigrants might be used to help offset the costs of other Biden proposals, which include a vast expansion of spending for child care, elder care and climate change improvements. He said that during President George W. Bush’s administration the Congressional Budget Office found providing legal status to some undocumented immigrants would bring in more government revenue.

“Any time there’s been a CBO examination of what immigration reform would do, it produces a significant increase in the GDP without really costing much money,” Kaine said.

Using a fast-track, partisan process to bypass GOP opposition and enact a path to citizenship for millions of unauthorized immigrants has been pushed by some immigration advocates who say they have no faith that Republicans would back long-sought immigration law changes.

It would have two advantages for Democrats -- they’d potentially be able to accomplish a longstanding and long-elusive priority while using the revenue immigration would bring to offset spending on other priorities. Yet it would require all 50 Democrats to be on board and require clearing a parliamentary thicket of rules intended to prevent the inclusion of items not related to the budget.

2Face 06-17-2021 09:40 AM

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Keep United We Dream and the radical lefties who want to "Abolish ICE" out and anything is possible.

_iliketodream 06-17-2021 10:12 AM

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Anyone interested in forming our own group to push for common sense, realistic, daca first legislation so UWD isn’t the only voice Congress hears?

Smooth 06-17-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 760930)
Keep United We Dream and the radical lefties who want to "Abolish ICE" out and anything is possible.

Actually UWD would favor this because it would legalize us without any border security provisions.

I am on board. However, will corporate Democrats be bold enough to do this? Letís hope so. Other issue is Joe Manchin would be needed.

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:36 AM

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Manchin would veto. I believe in a previous interview, he said that he would support dreamer if dems add border security. He has also never support CIR

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Anyone interested in forming our own group to push for common sense, realistic, daca first legislation so UWD isn’t the only voice Congress hears?
That would be amazing but we would go broke in the first week. Every pro immigration group knows that

Open border =$$$$$$$$

2Face 06-17-2021 11:39 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 760934)
That would be amazing but we would go broke in the first week. Every pro immigration group knows that

Open border =$$$$$$$$

Exactly....Open Border + Continued Fear is what brings in the money. Both of those things need to be maintained. The biggest risk to that is immigration reform/Dreamer legalization. The latter is NOT in the best interest of these groups as that would be the beginning of the end of their core existence. This is not in their interest. Hence they will make all sorts of radical demands to show they are fighting but deep inside their ultimate goal will be nothing to pass. Its a big conspiracy. And then come along Presidents like Trump...they are good for business for these organizations. They need individuals like that to use to promote fear as much as they can.

The biggest obstacle of Dreamers getting green cards is UWD and similar organizations. That is where the we should focus on countering.

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:45 AM

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The biggest obstacle of Dreamers getting green cards is UWD and similar organizations. That is where the we should focus on countering.
The biggest obstacle is the current toxic and divisive nature of politics.

Got_Daca 06-17-2021 01:08 PM

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Dems found their balls

Smooth 06-17-2021 01:30 PM

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Pretty sure UWD will be ok with this.

2MoreYears 06-17-2021 01:49 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
A deal is IMMINENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahajahahajahajahajhajah

vft1008 06-17-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 760941)
A deal is IMMINENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahajahahajahajahajhajah

Biden will leverage his Senate experience, amirite?

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 02:58 PM

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This is lip service Didnt they say the same thing when trying to pass the coivd bill. Its all click bait

2MoreYears 06-17-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 760943)
Biden will leverage his Senate experience, amirite?

I'm hoping that's the case ma gurl!

2Face 06-17-2021 03:18 PM

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Joey needs to ditch the Europe summit and fly back home immediately....This is a once in a life time opportunity to cut an incredible deal to finally legalize Dreamers....Get to work with your old Senate colleagues and leverage your past relationships to forge a compromise!

2MoreYears 06-17-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 760947)
Joey needs to ditch the Europe summit and fly back home IMMEDIATELY ....This is a ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY to cut an INCREDIBLE deal to finally legalize Dreamers....Get to work with your old Senate colleagues and leverage your past relationships to forge a compromise!

There! I fixed it for ya!

Smooth 06-17-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 760946)
I'm hoping that's the case ma gurl!

Gay ass

Smooth 06-17-2021 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 760947)
Joey needs to ditch the Europe summit and fly back home immediately....This is a once in a life time opportunity to cut an incredible deal to finally legalize Dreamers....Get to work with your old Senate colleagues and leverage your past relationships to forge a compromise!

Kamaga will legalize everyone except Guatemalans whom vft hates (itís on dap record).

FLDreamerrr 06-17-2021 06:16 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Dead on arrival

FLDreamerrr 06-17-2021 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 760941)
A deal is IMMINENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahajahahajahajahajhajah

I heard this before

Smooth 06-17-2021 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 760954)
Dead on arrival

2moreyears harassing men on arrival

jwxie518 06-17-2021 06:24 PM

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yeah good luck with this passage and no court challenge!

justjohnjustice1988 06-17-2021 06:36 PM

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It will fail in the Senate.

The Parliamentarian will turn it down, Dems will say "we tried" and then come 2022 elections they will promise a DACA legalization...

Maybe Pelosi will give up her own USA citizenship for one of us in Woketopia haha

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-17-2021 06:47 PM

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Immensely!!

dreamer12345 06-17-2021 07:18 PM

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I am proud of the dream Act cynicism on this board, it sustains me.

beingoflight 06-17-2021 07:24 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Nah fam, immigration reform wont happen, no chance in hell right now specially, dems are weak when it comes to this, UWD wants all or nothing and now that nobody wants to work illegals are urgently needed to keep america running with their cheap labor.

vft1008 06-17-2021 07:57 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/fGCW4e3.jpg?1

PapiChulo 06-17-2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 760961)
Nah fam, immigration reform wont happen, no chance in hell right now specially, dems are weak when it comes to this, UWD wants all or nothing and now that nobody wants to work illegals are urgently needed to keep america running with their cheap labor.

stfu, pussy.

Outsider626 06-17-2021 08:25 PM

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Not going to happen.

Smooth 06-17-2021 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 760963)
stfu, pussy.

Lmfaoooo

JayR9 06-17-2021 11:25 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 760963)
stfu, pussy.

^legend

vft1008 06-17-2021 11:27 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 760963)
stfu, pussy.

Missed you. Hope you've been well.

justjohnjustice1988 06-18-2021 09:26 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 760962)

Hahahaha

Whatever happens we should all have a DACA convention.

Then we can finally yell at each other in person

Smooth 06-18-2021 09:32 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
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Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 760978)
Hahahaha

Whatever happens we should all have a DACA convention.

Then we can finally yell at each other in person

Letís not do that. Iíll go to prison.

2Face 06-18-2021 10:02 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Here's a live look at VFT and FLDreamerrr and their love child 2More first in line to get their Green Cards after Joey forges a massive deal to legalize Dreamers....

https://media.giphy.com/media/QVgGpy...05n5/giphy.gif

Smooth 06-18-2021 10:54 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 760981)
Here's a live look at VFT and FLDreamerrr and their love child 2More first in line to get their Green Cards after Joey forges a massive deal to legalize Dreamers....

https://media.giphy.com/media/QVgGpy...05n5/giphy.gif

Lmfaoooo

justjohnjustice1988 06-18-2021 05:18 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 760979)
Letís not do that. Iíll go to prison.

Settle down homie! We know you're out on probation hahaha jk jk

Smooth 06-19-2021 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 760992)
Settle down homie! We know you're out on probation hahaha jk jk

Lmao all good


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