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CDP 05-20-2021 05:23 PM

Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Link to article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...isis-dreamers/
The Washington Post
Opinion by
Greg Sargent
Columnist
May 20, 2021 at 3:29 p.m. CDT

Republicans have crafted a talking point that they just adore: They won’t work with Democrats on immigration until President Biden gets the border under control. Crucial to this line is the claim that voters won’t tolerate legislative action on the issue if they believe the border is out of control.
I don’t think the public is going to tolerate us ignoring this crisis,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) recently argued, insisting this must be resolved before Congress can “do anything meaningful on immigration.”
A new poll from NPR provides a useful corrective to this argument. It suggests majorities do not see the border “crisis” as an impediment to acting on other fronts regarding immigration.
But unfortunately, Democrats are concluding that the Republican devotion to that talking point is rendering action increasingly unlikely on a very pressing immigration issue: the fate of “dreamers” brought here illegally as children.


In a world in which both parties acted in good faith, the NPR poll would reassure Republicans. It finds that 55 percent of Americans think current numbers of migrants encountered at the border is a “major problem," but it also finds that 66 percent of Americans favor giving the dreamers a legal way to earn citizenship.
That suggests a large majority doesn’t see the migrant influx as an impediment to acting on the dreamers, even if many Americans see that influx as a serious problem. This badly complicates the GOP argument. Yet that argument is holding up action on the dreamers.
In the Senate, a group of Republicans and Democrats have been searching for a bipartisan compromise to provide a path to legalization for around 2 million dreamers. The thinking of Democrats is that if Republicans can support anything on immigration, it’s this.


After all, some GOP senators have already come out for doing something to legalize the dreamers. It’s a no-brainer, since dreamers were brought here through no fault of their own. They’re thoroughly American, having spent much of their lives here. This shouldn’t be hard for the GOP base to accept.
But Democrats and advocates involved in the talks are growing increasingly pessimistic that anything is going to happen.
The first reason for this is that Republicans appear to be demanding a wholesale gutting of our asylum system in exchange for any action on the dreamers. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a key player in the talks, has been pushing a bill that would require asylum seekers to apply from processing centers abroad, essentially barring them from applying at our border.

This would in effect end an important humanitarian commitment, the one dictating that desperate people seeking refuge here have a right to a fair hearing.


Right now the Biden administration is badly violating this commitment by indefensibly using a coronavirus-related health ban to expel most asylum-seekers without due process. But his administration has pledged to eventually end this, though officials won’t say when.
People familiar with the Senate talks tell me Republicans are increasingly fixating on this core demand as a precondition for any action on the dreamers.
“Everyone believes the dreamers should have a chance at citizenship, and we should just get that done,” Kerri Talbot, deputy director of the Immigration Hub, told me. “Republicans are focused on politicizing the border and making unreasonable demands on asylum.”
“Their lack of seriousness makes getting a bipartisan deal difficult,” added Talbot, who’s lobbying for the dreamers.
The second reason Democrats fear a deal is slipping away is GOP devotion to the talking point that nothing can happen until there’s an end to what Republicans keep calling a “border crisis.”



The problem is obvious: Republicans have already telegraphed that they hope to use the border to win back the House in 2022, which requires ... Republicans to keep saying the border is out of control. Democrats fear Republicans will never abandon this position.
“They’re setting up a straw man that they can’t knock down,” one senior Senate Democratic aide told me. “We’ve seen this Republican campaign ad before, and we know how it ends.”
What’s particularly galling is that there will never come any point at which Republicans will ever allow that the border is not in “crisis.”
To be clear, the challenges at the border are still severe, and the humanitarian situation involving migrant kids and teens is still terrible. But there are some signs the situation might be on track to getting managed.
Yet Republicans have constructed their political argument in a way that doesn’t permit for that outcome to ever be acknowledged, even if it is achieved. And so, given how much they’ve staked on that argument, it’s hard to see them getting to yes on the dreamers anytime soon.

dreamer12345 05-20-2021 05:26 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
lol, this same old song.

with racist Repugnicunts, there's always "a crisis at the border".
with spineless Demorats, there's always the "optics of not right now unless concessions".

isk84life 05-20-2021 05:55 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Democrats better try everything in their power to solve this or don't come knocking on the door for hispanic support during elections. I got 8 people to come out and vote for them.... not moving a finger next time if they don't at least try the reconciliation process.

made4u 05-20-2021 07:09 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Hes not wrong...

Outsider626 05-20-2021 07:32 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 760397)
Democrats better try everything in their power to solve this or don't come knocking on the door for hispanic support during elections. I got 8 people to come out and vote for them.... not moving a finger next time if they don't at least try the reconciliation process.

Lol same. Forced my Mom, Sister, Cousin and a few other people to vote for Joe when they didn't want to vote at all(didn't like neither of the candidates). Now they telling it will be the last time they voted for a Dem presidents if nothing get's done for us DACA kids. Not surprising that many Hispanics already switched side during this election and it will continue to get worse for Democrats if they don't do anything.

Got_Daca 05-20-2021 10:29 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Gop takes the house in 2022

FLDreamerrr 05-20-2021 11:14 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 760400)
Gop takes the house in 2022

And senate , and White House very possible in 2024

hDreamer1988 05-20-2021 11:14 PM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
The fight over the issue is more important than the solution.

For Dem, this draws in the lobbyist and the $$$ campaign donation. The money says legalize all or nothing and the Dems obey. The article says the GOP will use this issue to win back the house in 2022, yet why is nothing being done to blunt this issue and to try and preserve their House majority. Once they lose the house.... any hope is gone.

The GOP wants to continue their scare and anger tactics to fire up their base... Illegals are coming here to steal your jobs and murder your children... same bs as always. Fear and victimhood at its best. Worst of all, its working

Copper 05-21-2021 02:02 AM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
The Democratic Party needs to grow a pair and go all out on immigration just like the Trump administration did. Let’s cut the bullshit and pass something permanent while you can, because once the midterm years closes by, we can kiss any relief good bye.

Outsider626 05-21-2021 02:26 AM

Re: Opinion: Why Democrats fear Republicans will never agree to protect ‘dreamers’
 
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