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bigdreamer2010 06-17-2021 07:39 AM

Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ration-changes

Senate Democrats are weighing plans to speed some components of a stalled immigration overhaul through the Senate later this year as part of a broad Democrat-only measure with much of President Joe Biden’s economic agenda.

The idea was discussed Wednesday at a meeting between Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and all 11 Democrats on the Senate Budget Committee, said one of the participants, Tim Kaine of Virginia. The lawmakers met to craft strategy for a 2022 fiscal blueprint that could enable other legislation to clear the Senate with just 50 votes -- short-circuiting a likely Republican filibuster of a series of costly Biden agenda items.

Kaine said that providing a pathway to citizenship for some undocumented immigrants might be used to help offset the costs of other Biden proposals, which include a vast expansion of spending for child care, elder care and climate change improvements. He said that during President George W. Bush’s administration the Congressional Budget Office found providing legal status to some undocumented immigrants would bring in more government revenue.

“Any time there’s been a CBO examination of what immigration reform would do, it produces a significant increase in the GDP without really costing much money,” Kaine said.

Using a fast-track, partisan process to bypass GOP opposition and enact a path to citizenship for millions of unauthorized immigrants has been pushed by some immigration advocates who say they have no faith that Republicans would back long-sought immigration law changes.

It would have two advantages for Democrats -- they’d potentially be able to accomplish a longstanding and long-elusive priority while using the revenue immigration would bring to offset spending on other priorities. Yet it would require all 50 Democrats to be on board and require clearing a parliamentary thicket of rules intended to prevent the inclusion of items not related to the budget.

2Face 06-17-2021 09:40 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Keep United We Dream and the radical lefties who want to "Abolish ICE" out and anything is possible.

_iliketodream 06-17-2021 10:12 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Anyone interested in forming our own group to push for common sense, realistic, daca first legislation so UWD isn’t the only voice Congress hears?

Smooth 06-17-2021 11:02 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 760930)
Keep United We Dream and the radical lefties who want to "Abolish ICE" out and anything is possible.

Actually UWD would favor this because it would legalize us without any border security provisions.

I am on board. However, will corporate Democrats be bold enough to do this? Let’s hope so. Other issue is Joe Manchin would be needed.

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:36 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Manchin would veto. I believe in a previous interview, he said that he would support dreamer if dems add border security. He has also never support CIR

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:38 AM

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Anyone interested in forming our own group to push for common sense, realistic, daca first legislation so UWD isn’t the only voice Congress hears?
That would be amazing but we would go broke in the first week. Every pro immigration group knows that

Open border =$$$$$$$$

2Face 06-17-2021 11:39 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 760934)
That would be amazing but we would go broke in the first week. Every pro immigration group knows that

Open border =$$$$$$$$

Exactly....Open Border + Continued Fear is what brings in the money. Both of those things need to be maintained. The biggest risk to that is immigration reform/Dreamer legalization. The latter is NOT in the best interest of these groups as that would be the beginning of the end of their core existence. This is not in their interest. Hence they will make all sorts of radical demands to show they are fighting but deep inside their ultimate goal will be nothing to pass. Its a big conspiracy. And then come along Presidents like Trump...they are good for business for these organizations. They need individuals like that to use to promote fear as much as they can.

The biggest obstacle of Dreamers getting green cards is UWD and similar organizations. That is where the we should focus on countering.

hDreamer1988 06-17-2021 11:45 AM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
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The biggest obstacle of Dreamers getting green cards is UWD and similar organizations. That is where the we should focus on countering.
The biggest obstacle is the current toxic and divisive nature of politics.

Got_Daca 06-17-2021 01:08 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Dems found their balls

Smooth 06-17-2021 01:30 PM

Re: Democrats Weigh Plan to Muscle Through Immigration Changes
 
Pretty sure UWD will be ok with this.


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